<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> "God" didn't CREATE anyone, let alone Adam and Eve. We're the product of evolution. Once you realize that, things become a lot clearer. Dubblechin [/b][/quote] Where did the first living organism come from then? Just appeared did it? [/b][/quote] Living organisms can be created....... [/b][/quote] That's my point...they have to be created. Secondly...they only form from something that has organic properties. Where did the VERY FIRST organism come from? Still no answer to that question. [/b][/quote] Of course no answer. Also no answer to the questions where did earth come from or where did God come from. It proves nothing one way nor another
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> "God" didn't CREATE anyone, let alone Adam and Eve. We're the product of evolution. Once you realize that, things become a lot clearer. Dubblechin [/b][/quote] Where did the first living organism come from then? Just appeared did it? [/b][/quote] Living organisms can be created....... [/b][/quote] That's my point...they have to be created. Secondly...they only form from something that has organic properties. Where did the VERY FIRST organism come from? Still no answer to that question. [/b][/quote] They created the same condition there was on earth when the first organic molecule was created. This is no mystery. If you want a mystery, wonder how the universe was created, not how life was created since there's already some pretty solid SCIENTIFIC theories on the subject. Another mystery i'd like to solve is how you learned how to read and write with such limited intelligence!?!?! :wacko: After all, God may exists!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> Dude, you simply don't understand what "disorder" means....a disorder consists of a disruption of normal function.....a third nipple is prevalent in 2-3% of the female pop., and there is nothing to suggest this figure has not been constant..... its not pathological, its not contagious, its not disruptive....it is an illustration of the natural variation across a number of biological processes which make up physical make-up...and that is normal!!...and the same, IMO, goes for homosexuality.... [/b][/quote] Fair enough....on the nipple issue. But having an inclination to have sex with someone of the same gender is undoubtedly the result of a disruption of normal psychological and cognitive processes...since the natural inclination of a sexual creature is to have intercourse with the same species of the opposite sex. Salaco, would you consider a man who has an inclination to have sexual intercourse with a German Shepherd (DOG) someone without a disorder? :wacko:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> They created the same condition there was on earth when the first organic molecule was created. This is no mystery. If you want a mystery, wonder how the universe was created, not how life was created since there's already some pretty solid SCIENTIFIC theories on the subject. Another mystery i'd like to solve is how you learned how to read and write with such limited intelligence!?!?! :wacko: After all, God may exists! [/b][/quote] Damn....at times like this I wish that slystaff would turn up, I need some help. What happened to that dude anyway?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> Dude, you simply don't understand what "disorder" means....a disorder consists of a disruption of normal function.....a third nipple is prevalent in 2-3% of the female pop., and there is nothing to suggest this figure has not been constant..... its not pathological, its not contagious, its not disruptive....it is an illustration of the natural variation across a number of biological processes which make up physical make-up...and that is normal!!...and the same, IMO, goes for homosexuality.... [/b][/quote] Fair enough....on the nipple issue. But having an inclination to have sex with someone of the same gender is undoubtedly the result of a disruption of normal psychological and cognitive processes...since the natural inclination of a sexual creature is to have intercourse with the same species of the opposite sex. Salaco, would you consider a man who has an inclination to have sexual intercourse with a German Shepherd (DOG) someone without a disorder? :wacko: [/b][/quote] Leave the dog aside for the moment. Natural means nothing, what does it mean? If we look at other lower form animals, we see homosexuality in certain species. Did they learn it too? ...similarly, its presence in ancient texts including your bible would seem to indicate its been here some time...therefore, it crosses both species and has been here since humankind..unnatural?? As for the dog, I wouldn't compare consensual relations with another human with screwing a lower form animal.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> Leave the dog aside for the moment. Natural means nothing, what does it mean? If we look at other lower form animals, we see homosexuality in certain species. Did they learn it too? ...similarly, its presence in ancient texts including your bible would seem to indicate its been here some time...therefore, it crosses both species and has been here since humankind..unnatural?? As for the dog, I wouldn't compare consensual relations with another human with screwing a lower form animal. [/b][/quote] The point still stands and the question, unanswered. If screwing a dog is seen as unnantural then why isn't screwing another man. btw....donkey's have tried to have intercourse with men before and dogs have humped women. So these things (sex outside of the species) occur in nature also...does that mean that they are NATURAL!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> If screwing a dog is seen as unnantural then why isn't screwing another man. [/b][/quote] :wacko: If screwing another man is seen as unnatural then why isn't screwing a woman?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> If screwing a dog is seen as unnantural then why isn't screwing another man. [/b][/quote] :wacko: If screwing another man is seen as unnatural then why isn't screwing a woman? [/b][/quote] :shaneUD12Oscar: Do you really think I should answer that question?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> If screwing a dog is seen as unnantural then why isn't screwing another man. [/b][/quote] :wacko: If screwing another man is seen as unnatural then why isn't screwing a woman? [/b][/quote] :shaneUD12Oscar: Do you really think I should answer that question? [/b][/quote] Not really. I just didn't understand your comparsion at all
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> If screwing a dog is seen as unnantural then why isn't screwing another man. [/b][/quote] :wacko: If screwing another man is seen as unnatural then why isn't screwing a woman? [/b][/quote] okay...okay....I'll answer the idiotic question. :YeahRight: Ultimately the purpose of sex is reproduction. The fact that it is enjoyable is the reason why we naturally inclined to reproduce ourselves. The enjoyment factor is a biproduct of its ultimate purpose....but is not the purpose itself. Therefore it is natural to have sex with women (for a man) because the purpose of sex, ultimately, is to reporduce ourselves. It is a PERVERSION of sex to have it with a man...because that is not the natural purpose of it.....
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> They created the same condition there was on earth when the first organic molecule was created. This is no mystery. If you want a mystery, wonder how the universe was created, not how life was created since there's already some pretty solid SCIENTIFIC theories on the subject. Another mystery i'd like to solve is how you learned how to read and write with such limited intelligence!?!?! :wacko: After all, God may exists! [/b][/quote] Damn....at times like this I wish that slystaff would turn up, I need some help. What happened to that dude anyway? [/b][/quote] I dare to disagree. Slystaff wouldn't change my mind on that subject. Not on homosexuality either.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> If screwing a dog is seen as unnantural then why isn't screwing another man. [/b][/quote] :wacko: If screwing another man is seen as unnatural then why isn't screwing a woman? [/b][/quote] okay...okay....I'll answer the idiotic question. :YeahRight: Ultimately the purpose of sex is reproduction. The fact that it is enjoyable is the reason why we naturally inclined to reproduce ourselves. The enjoyment factor is a biproduct of its ultimate purpose....but is not the purpose itself. Therefore it is natural to have sex with women (for a man) because the purpose of sex, ultimately, is to reporduce ourselves. It is a PERVERSION of sex to have it with a man...because that is not the natural purpose of it..... [/b][/quote] Is masturbating also perversion? After all, it doesn't help in reproduce either
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> Leave the dog aside for the moment. Natural means nothing, what does it mean? If we look at other lower form animals, we see homosexuality in certain species. Did they learn it too? ...similarly, its presence in ancient texts including your bible would seem to indicate its been here some time...therefore, it crosses both species and has been here since humankind..unnatural?? As for the dog, I wouldn't compare consensual relations with another human with screwing a lower form animal. [/b][/quote] The point still stands and the question, unanswered. If screwing a dog is seen as unnantural then why isn't screwing another man. btw....donkey's have tried to have intercourse with men before and dogs have humped women. So these things (sex outside of the species) occur in nature also...does that mean that they are NATURAL! [/b][/quote] I answered your first enquiry. It involves sexual behavior with another living organism that cannot participate consensually. Thats why I would put bestiality in a separate category (arguably alongside paedophilia). As for the contents of your video collection, a few anecdotal stories does not add up to a statistically significant conclusion. We know that homosexuals have constituted a certain portion of the pop. and that it has been so for a long time. To me, that indicates that we are far along the road to "natural"; genetic linkage data would provide supporting evidence and the lack of any genetic intercorrelations between homosexuality and any other psychiatric disorders (although they correlate well with one another) would be further support. You are looking for spurious reasons to support your prejudice. Just admit that you just find it sickening and that this is alone is the basis for your judgement.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> Is masturbating also perversion? After all, it doesn't help in reproduce either [/b][/quote] Good point, but men only tend to masturbate when they don't have a woman....
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> If screwing a dog is seen as unnantural then why isn't screwing another man. [/b][/quote] :wacko: If screwing another man is seen as unnatural then why isn't screwing a woman? [/b][/quote] okay...okay....I'll answer the idiotic question. :YeahRight: Ultimately the purpose of sex is reproduction. The fact that it is enjoyable is the reason why we naturally inclined to reproduce ourselves. The enjoyment factor is a biproduct of its ultimate purpose....but is not the purpose itself. Therefore it is natural to have sex with women (for a man) because the purpose of sex, ultimately, is to reporduce ourselves. It is a PERVERSION of sex to have it with a man...because that is not the natural purpose of it..... [/b][/quote] Is masturbating also perversion? After all, it doesn't help in reproduce either[/b][/quote] Socrates doesn't wank, it's evil! :Brimstone:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> You are looking for spurious reasons to support your prejudice. Just admit that you just find it sickening and that this is alone is the basis for your judgement. [/b][/quote] I admit that I find it sickening, in fact I have never denied this. But I also offer logical arguments to support my prejudice...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> We know that homosexuals have constituted a certain portion of the pop. and that it has been so for a long time. To me, that indicates that WE are far along the road to "natural"; [/b][/quote] So you are homosexual?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> You are looking for spurious reasons to support your prejudice. Just admit that you just find it sickening and that this is alone is the basis for your judgement. [/b][/quote] I admit that I find it sickening, in fact I have never denied this. But I also offer logical arguments to support my prejudice... [/b][/quote] Racist also think their argument supporting their racism are logical.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> You are looking for spurious reasons to support your prejudice. Just admit that you just find it sickening and that this is alone is the basis for your judgement. [/b][/quote] I admit that I find it sickening, in fact I have never denied this. But I also offer logical arguments to support my prejudice... [/b][/quote] Racist also think their argument supporting their racism are logical. [/b][/quote] No doubt! But any arguments pertaining to racism can be EASILY refuted....
Race and Sexual preference...are two completely different things and I don't know why everyone insists on equating them. One is a state of being, the other is a life style and a mindset.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> You are looking for spurious reasons to support your prejudice. Just admit that you just find it sickening and that this is alone is the basis for your judgement. [/b][/quote] I admit that I find it sickening, in fact I have never denied this. But I also offer logical arguments to support my prejudice... [/b][/quote] Racist also think their argument supporting their racism are logical. [/b][/quote] No doubt! But also arguments pertaining to racism can be EASILY refuted.... [/b][/quote] Your the only one who thinks your argument haven't been refuted! Your only basis is your so called moral... The fact that you labeled me "Evil" because I was defending homosexuals tells a lot about your moral... :YeahRight:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> Race and Sexual preference...are two completely different things and I don't know why everyone insists on equating them. One is a state of being, the other is a life style. [/b][/quote] Why homosexuality wouldn't be a state of being?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> Your the only one who thinks your argument haven't been refuted! Your only basis is your so called moral... The fact that you labeled me "Evil" because I was defending homosexuals tells a lot about your moral... :YeahRight: [/b][/quote] I don't recall labelling you as "evil". I just think that you are amoral.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> Race and Sexual preference...are two completely different things and I don't know why everyone insists on equating them. One is a state of being, the other is a life style. [/b][/quote] Why homosexuality wouldn't be a state of being? [/b][/quote] no more a state of being than pedophilia...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> Race and Sexual preference...are two completely different things and I don't know why everyone insists on equating them. One is a state of being, the other is a life style. [/b][/quote] Why homosexuality wouldn't be a state of being? [/b][/quote] no more a state of being than pedophilia... [/b][/quote] They both can be "state of being". The difference is, pedophilia has a negative effect on people involved, it ruins the life of the child forever. Sex between gays does not harm anybody, instead they both enjoy it. Now who are you (and the rest of us) to tell people what they can like and what they can't. As long as they don't harm anyone, let them be gays or, as you put it, pervetics
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> Race and Sexual preference...are two completely different things and I don't know why everyone insists on equating them. One is a state of being, the other is a life style. [/b][/quote] Why homosexuality wouldn't be a state of being? [/b][/quote] no more a state of being than pedophilia... [/b][/quote] They both can be "state of being". The difference is, pedophilia has a negative effect on people involved, it ruins the life of the child forever. Sex between gays does not harm anybody, instead they both enjoy it. Now who are you (and the rest of us) to tell people what they can like and what they can't. As long as they don't harm anyone, let them be gays or, as you put it, pervetics [/b][/quote] :: That's what I've been saying to him since yesterday morning... He doesn't seem to understand that.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> Your the only one who thinks your argument haven't been refuted! Your only basis is your so called moral... The fact that you labeled me "Evil" because I was defending homosexuals tells a lot about your moral... :YeahRight: [/b][/quote] I don't recall labelling you as "evil". I just think that you are amoral. [/b][/quote] <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> btw Baron, you are obviously a nasty man without morals... :vom: [/b][/quote] It's not far from labeling me Evil...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> They both can be "state of being". The difference is, pedophilia has a negative effect on people involved, it ruins the life of the child forever. Sex between gays does not harm anybody, instead they both enjoy it. Now who are you (and the rest of us) to tell people what they can like and what they can't. As long as they don't harm anyone, let them be gays or, as you put it, pervetics [/b][/quote] Hey...I never tell anyone what they can or cannot do. I will never tell a homosexual man that he shouldn't suck a dick. If he wants to do that it's up to him. I'm simply saying that it's disgusting, unacceptable and unnatural as far as I'm concerned. No one should be offended by my opinion.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> Your the only one who thinks your argument haven't been refuted! Your only basis is your so called moral... The fact that you labeled me "Evil" because I was defending homosexuals tells a lot about your moral... :YeahRight: [/b][/quote] I don't recall labelling you as "evil". I just think that you are amoral. [/b][/quote] <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> btw Baron, you are obviously a nasty man without morals... :vom: [/b][/quote] It's not far from labeling me Evil... [/b][/quote] yes it is....
