How many of you think Kessler beats Calzaghe?

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  1. bpg

    bpg Leap-Amateur

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    Kessler is not over-rated at all. The guy is a beast. He's basically cleaned out the rest of the division (in a period of 3 years) while Joe been taking soft touches (Lacy was a great win, but it took him 10 years to get one).

    I think this is the best betting fight in years.

    I believe Kessler is better than Calzaghe in every way. I see him dominating him on the way to a late stoppage.

    The key factor in this fight is Calzaghe has never been really tested. He's never had to battle through adversity to get the win.

    Kessler will take him to the deep waters, and won't let him out. With Joes age, and lack of a tough fight since...umm... and the pace of the fight is going to catch up to him very fast.

    Everyone should jump on this bandwagon asap, because the Kessler train will run express through anyone up to 175 pounds.
     
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    So kessler has been tested and calzaghe not? Kessler has had to battle through adversity to win? And Calzaghe is NOT a test for kessler? :dunno:

    Calzaghe brings nothing to the table that kessler hasn't seen before?
     
  3. Baron

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    I agree that Kessler is overrated, I saw a few rds of the Andrade fight and still I'm wondering what all the fuss over this guy is. He looks very basic to me, not overly fast or powerful and I think Joe will beat him the same way he's beaten all the other average joes he's fought, which is by having superior talent.

    You guys will be shocked when the overly hyped Kessler loses on the big stage just like all of the other Joe opponents. I'm no fan of Joe, but I'm not even rooting for Kessler because he doesn't impress me. Joe by UD.
     
  5. D.C. Pizza Master

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    I think he will beat Calzaghe

    He throws great combinations down the middle and most def has more then enough power to hurt joe in the process

    calzaghe has to make this fight into a combination of a slug and hug fest

    im kind of shocked this fight is even being made

    i think kessler is a better fighter then any of these guys...Taylor, Hopkins, or Winky, Tarver
     
  6. D.C. Pizza Master

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    actually...i was very imrpessed by that fight

    kessler could not hurt his opponent all night yet he never gave up trying to knock him out and threw bombs until the very end...andrade was an ANIMAL
     
  7. Mitchell Kane

    Mitchell Kane WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    We shall see. I think some people may be surprised at how big Kessler is when he's in the ring with Calzaghe. The guy is very big for the division, and athletic for his size with good balance...and he's skilled. That's actually quite impressive to me.

    Furthermore, he uses his size...he has a good jab, and he uses it. He doesn't always use it to land, but he throws it to create space, and at times he'll hook around the right hand guard of a southpaw. He also has an accurate straight right hand.

    The thing about Calzaghe is he doesn't fight that well from distance, in part because of his punching technique...especially the way he brings his left hand across. He doesn't really rely on the jab, but he is adept at getting close and then firing quick combinations...he could find that difficult against Kessler, depending in part on how much respect he gives Kessler early in the fight.

    Kessler is a bit like Klitschko to me in the way he uses his jab and his front foot to establish himself in the center of the ring and makes oppoents come to him and counter what he does, but then he also understands range and has some subtle foot movement.

    I think Kessler was under-rated (virtually non-existent in the minds of a lot of American fans until the Beyer highlights on HBO and the Andrade fight eariler this year).

    If there's been an over-correction then so be it, but I think he deserves a lot of the talk he's getting now.
     
  8. Breeze

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    I've seen Kessler and I definately feel he can beat Calzaghe. He's big has good speed and seems to hit like a truck. I think his straight accurate punches will find their way through Joe's looping slaps, and he seems big enough to back Joe up and eventually be the aggressor and keep Calzaghe at the end of his shots.
     
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    dsimon writes:

    It is interesting to hear some of you give props to Kessler and It makes a lot of sense. Kessler does look very balanced and accurate. But is he really an big accurate enough puncher to have a real advantage, or hurt Joe?

    For example when Mitchell brings up Klitschko you generally see the results of Klitschko's handiwork because he stops the guy with those accumulated and accurate punches. Statistics suggest that Kessler is about as effective as Joe in shutting down his opponent (assuming similar level of opposition). Both KO 3/4th of their oppossition.

    Regarding Kessler, and not speaking specifically about the Andrade fight, this indicates to me that he is about as effective as Joe in terms of the effects of his punching, not better and Joe is accurate (alas he has also fought a few Ashira's:lol:).

    I bring this up because I am struggling to see where either guy has a real advantage over the other:dunno:. I appreciatte that some of my fellow posters who have carefully watched both guys might form an opinion based on observing both guys BTW.

    Mitchell also makes a good point about Kessler's footwork, you can definitely see him keep distance well against Andrade.

    On the other hand Joe has fought balls to the wall on occasion, including being knocked down and coming back to finish Brewer, so Joe is not unable to deal with adversity. Also, Kessler can't match Calzighe and get the nod. I think Joe took this fight because he feels as though he can eke out a decision going tit for tat with Kessler and if it plays out this way he probably will get the nod.
     
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    Wrong fighters to enlist then. Calzaghe has had a few stopped in his favor very quickly, and he's prone to injury. Both men are willing to come forward to land punches. So a headbutt deciding the fight is higher risk for these two guys.

    I'm picking Kessler, but not by much. It's really just a gut feeling. As much as we all have ragged on Calzaghe, he's still the best the division has had until proven otherwise.
     
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    Not sure either have faced enough punchers to prove it, but I'd argue that Kessler has the better chin.
     
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    So who are you picking Jake?
     
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    I honestly don't know. I might Donnybrook this one.
     
  14. slystaff

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    Safe bet is Calzaghe by decision...but I'm HOPING than Kessler wins.
     
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    It is a pick 'em to me.
    I am very impressed with both guys.
     
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    The only clear advantage Calzaghe has, is probably stamina,..people yak on about his speed, but anyone has increased handspeed if thier mitts are open and little "show off" flurries are thrown,..maybe that'll come in handy for the welsh judges, but "speed to power" ratio or, "handspeed with closed fists and real knockout commitment" ...belongs to Kessler,..

    If Joe want's to trade, I truelly hope Kessler obliges, and let's them rip every now and then.
     
  17. Orthodox Crusader

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    Easy Easy Joe.
     
  18. mikE

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    Kessler wins and he wins by KO.

    I like Calzaghe a lot and will be rooting for him in the rematch, but he is doomed in this fight due to a specific anomaly inherent in boxing.
     
  19. Orthodox Crusader

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    :dunno:
     
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    Calzaghe by late stoppage or decision
     
  21. Orthodox Crusader

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    :clap: :clap:
     
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    :crafty: That's what you'll be saying as he bawls in his corner after the fight. Do I detect the hint of nerves scouser?
     
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    Is he on the cover of the new Fight Night game?
     
  24. dsimon3387

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    dsimon writes:

    Listen you mayan boxer loving Nancy! Ortho has total confidence in his choice of Joe, how dare you imply otherwise! AS a matter of fact Ortho probably didn't reply to this post because in his state of relaxation that approaches Samadi his astral self is laughing at you and the other worshippers of that plodder that would lose to the stickbug named Williams.




    :lol: :lol:
     
  25. Orthodox Crusader

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    Easy win for Joe, No nerves here. Remember, he wouldn't be taking this fight if he thought he would lose.
     
  26. Double L

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    so you think he can beat everyone he thinks he can beat? is that what i'm hearing?
     
  27. jarhead

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    Are you saying there's a fix on?:crafty:

    Kessler will be the first to stop Joe but don't mind me, I said the same about Lacy:lol:
     
  28. mikE

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    Here's some hints as to this anomaly:

    Hatton, Dariusz, Valuev
     
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    They are all white?:dunno:
     
  30. ElTerriblee

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    Getting to 50-0 or breaking Joe Louis 25 title defenses maybe. :dunno:
     

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