How Much Irrepairable Damage Is Done To Floyds Legacy By Not Beating ODLH??

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  1. Xplosive

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    The hell would have DLH done in his prime different than he did tonight? He fought Floyd tonight the same way he fought Mosley 7 years ago in his PRIME.

    He still would have tired and gotten pot shotted in his prime, because his stamina has ALWAYS been ass.
     
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    He won the fight tonight so he really wouldn't have to do anything different in his prime.:lol:
     
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    Unless the 3 judges were Millie, Joel De La Hoya, and Petre, the results would not have changed.
     
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    If two of the three judges could see it would.
     
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    :bears: Yep,Floyd WAS Average...REED was Faaaaaaaaaaar from IMPRESSED by Floyd's Performance,even N WINNING the Fight...


    U'll NEVER EVER See REED Referencing Floyd's CLEAR-CUT Win Over DeLa as 1 of his BEST Performances:nono: ....

    "However",Anybody that Suggests that Floyd LOST is a HATER of the HIGHEST Order...


    REED:cool:
     
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    Yep, Floyd was off tonight. personally I think he had a hurt right shoulder going in:

    1. He didn't throw the right hand for the first 3 rounds
    2. They kept rubbing that shoulder between rounds
    3. Floyd kept doing arm jestures during the fight, suggesting that he was trying to loosen it up
    4. When he eventually started using it, he was slinging right hands and not throwing them straight through the target the way he usually does (exceptfor maybe two times the entire fight)
     
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    Mayweather won that fight CLEARLY. The scorecards were horrible. The people who think DLH won, are the same people that screamed in the crowd everytime DLH hit one of the hairs on Floyd's head. They bought into who was the villain and who was the hero. They wanted PBF to lose because he was the Bad Guy.

    On a side note, i have seen more skill in an average MMA fight than i did in that ring tonite. Lampley dont know shit.
     
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    For some reason floyds speed in this fight doesnt look that impressive compared to delahoya. atleast delahoya consistently throws combos while floyd is content throwing 1 shot at a time.

    Can floyd even throw a flurry in a fight?
     
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    Floyd doesn't flurry. He can throw quick combinations (see Gatti fight)..but he's not a "flurrier" like a De La Hoya or a Ray Reonard. He does have very quick SINGLE shots though..and that's why his accuracy is always so high.
     
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    I'm still amazed that people are seeing a win for Floyd and I have to wonder when did Boxing become fighting the other guys fight and ducking and dodging for your life while when allowed to throw hitting the other mans gloves and forarms 90% of the time?

    Oscar won that fight on Body punching alone and seriously made Floyd look like a hoe getting slapped around when he wasn't flat out running. DLH had many shots to Floyds head that seemed to not get counted ... seems the only shots they counted had to be 100% solid connects.

    Compubox was a complete and utter joke.

    I'll never understand the animus against DLH that sways people so heavily against him.
     
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    PetreTG WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    to those that think Floyd won that fight ... I say it again ... watch the fight without sound (read that all the Floyd nut licking) , Ignore that fraud Ledermans score card ... and you're going to see a totally different fight.
     
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    I watched the fight on Sopcast with that Dan Sheridan douchebag, who was swinging on DLH's nuts the whole time, and I think Floyd won.
     
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    This is the funniest part of your entire arguement because it was EXTREMELY apparent everyone on the HBO crew(except for Lederman) had Oscar's dick in thier mouths all night long. ESPECIALLY Manny, who might as well just have walked into the ring and jerked Goldie off.

    Which btw leads to my next point, please fire Manny Steward! Honestly, if this guy wasnt a HOF trainer, who the hell would listen to him? He's terrible as a commentator, and extremely fickle and biased.
     
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    That's sure not what I heard.

    I was actually surprised at what they were saying most of the time as if they were watching a different fight IMO.
     
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    Manny Steward was the one thinking Oscar would tire and was not commenting on the action at hand, mainly Oscar DICTATING the fight.
     
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    You hear what you want Pedro. :lol: You do not let a trivial thing like reality get in the way of your acoustic pleasure:lol:

    Mayweather :slap: De La Hoya face it Pedro, check mate.
     
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    Floyd clearly won eight rounds. De la Hoya clearly won no rounds.
     
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    Bigotry, bigotry... and u r the first to hypocritically slam racism :rolleyes:
     
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    dsimon writes:

    Thats a good point. The only round where De La Hoya landed flush was in the tenth and Mayweather also had a good round.
     
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    Baldomir debacle and now this?... you idiot, you mean shuting down the Welterweight champ then going up to his 5th weight class and clearly beating a great fighter?

    Dislike him all you want for not brawling but respect the man, he did what he had to do.
     
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    I didn't think I'd live to see the day I would agree with Reed. This is that day though. Floyd clearly won the fight. I don't know what fight some of you saw.
     
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    Not as much as it does for Hatton to not beat Collazo.

    :rolleyes: :lol: at Oscar winning this fight. Please.
     
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    As much as it pains me to say it 114-115 is the most realistic score (for PBF)
    But you could also argue that Oscar was the aggressor is the majority of the rounds.
    Rounds that could have gone either way.

    It was a close fight, and the PBF fans should have some humility is this victory and give Oscar the respect he deserves. It is not as if Floyd beat him up for 12 rounds.
     
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    Yeah, I thought it was pretty close and the SD wasn't far off base at all. You can't give a guy very round when he's backing up and throwing half the punches the other guy is throwing. Ring generalship comes into play in scoring too. Who was making the fight? I don't disagree with the decision.
     
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    Well to be honest I would have given those close rounds to Dela Hoya and with them the fight, but the judges didn’t see it like that so I aint going to complain to much

    Oscar made the point himself, he was the aggressor is almost all the rounds.
    You have to convincingly beat the champion. And convincingly win, Floyd didn’t.

    Fact of the matter is Floyd won a close fight, I just wish the PBF fans would stop posting as if Dela Hoya got spanked for 12 rounds.
     
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    You're on crack Petre. I'm surprised with the 110" screen you were watching you didn't see Lampley literally climb between the ring aprons and suck off DeLa's left testicle between the 9th and 10th rounds.

    It really was quite graphic. :nono:
     
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    Ditto. I think De La Hoya should have won, I don't think floyd did enough to win and "beat the champ". He was fighting scared, fighting not to lose. That was not a performance to be proud of. Mosley beat a better Oscar more convincingly years and years ago.

    I wouldn't go so far as to call it a robbery, but whatever way you look at it, that was a close fight. These floyd groupies are acting like this was a calzaghe lacy type beating/schooling.
     
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    That's just a myth that in "boxing tradition", the challenger has to take it from the champ.

    Look at numerous fights in history, including some De La Hoya fights (on both sides), plenty of close fights go to the challenger.

    There's nothing in the rule book that says "close rounds go to the champion".
     
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    The challenger has to fight with some desire, not necessarily just "close rounds go to the champ". I don't believe that at all, I believe the challenger has to show sufficient fire to defeat the champ, not fight not to lose. And that's exactly what floyd did, against the bigger superstar and champion.
     
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    Could you imagine any welter weight fighter taking Floyds title in a fight that close, some how I don’t think so.
     

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