How much respect did you lose for Roy Jones Jr after the 3rd Tarver fight?

Of Course the Fight Means Something...

Calzaghe is UNDEFEATED & Ranked NO WORSE than # 2 N the World, Lb for Lb...

U Sound like a Calzaghe Fan who's AFRAID he's Gonna LOSE to Roy, so U're ALREADY Prepping your Bullshit EXCUSE...


REED:boohoo:

 

I am not AFRAID of any person losing. I disagree with the notion that Roy is as shot as people say. Is he in his prime, no. The problem is the matchup. I saw what Hopkins did. Joe hasn't gotten out of the way of a right hand in years. Roy's is faster, harder and you can't see it. Joe is going to have problems with the handspeed much like Oscar did when he was used to being quicker and wasn't. If Joe loses by 1st round kayo, I still proved my point he was a future hall of famer when I said it 5 years ago when know nothings like you said he was a "Eurobum." I know you have never understood this, but not all of us lick nuts like stamps. I will root for Joe but he doesn't pay my bills. This fight is bullshit. I can tell you I won't be giving Joe credit for beating Roy either. He is beating a B version of Roy, not an F version like many of you say. If Roy is shot at all, it is in his mind he still has the tools to be competetive.

 

lost all respect

no other fighter has ever become such a pussy from just 1 punch the way roy did from the second tarver fight

 

F.Y.I., Roy Jones has been DECLINING Since 2000 or 2001...Somewhere N The Midst of the Eric Harding, Derrick Harmon, WHOlio Gonzalez Fights...

Funny U're Rubbing Your Own CLIT Over Being "Right" about Calzaghe, but Look @ WHO he Beat to "Prove" Himself...

Even TODAY's Version of Roy Jones would BEAT Jeff Lacy...& Mikkel Kessler is Still UNPROVEN to REED...The Lightheavy's that Roy WAXED (yet was CRITICIZED for Facing, by Boxing Ignorant SCRUBS like YOU) were BETTER than the Supermiddle's Kessler Beat, yet we're Supposed to Just ACCEPT his Resume???...

So U're SOLD on Calzaghe, DESPITE the Fact that his Resume is MUCH WORSE than Roy Jones', who U've ALWAYS DOUBTED???...Yeah, that Makes Sense:boohoo:...

REED is AMAZED by your Utter LACK of ABILITY N ASSESSING Boxing Talent, Dog...You're Making your LACK of Talent an Actual TALENT...Impressive:bears:...

So to YOU, Sugar Ray Leonard & Ali AREN'T Worthy of Praise, yet Winky Wright, Vernon Forrest & Chris Byrd SHOULD B???...N Fact, U've Even ACCUSED All 3 of those Men w/Being "More EXCITING" Than Ali or Leonard...

& Now, Roy Jones is @ a "B" Level of his Ability???...

Honestly, your Attempts @ Being Fightbeats COURT JESTER, Fightbeats Chief Supplier of (Bull)SHITS & GIGGLES, HINDERS your Ability to SERIOUSLY Discuss Boxing...

U Basically Kick YOURSELF N the Crotch...U're a Typewritten TRAINWRECK Waiting to Happen...

FREQUENTLY...



REED:mj:

 

The only Super Middleweight that Roy beat that was worth a damn was James Toney. That was a great win but besides that he beat a very mediocre crop of Super Middleweights.

 

Well, I don't remember ever saying anything about Roy's talent. For the record, a prime Joe is less talented than Roy ever was. I think your lack of reading comprehension is a hinderence to your understanding of what I am typing. Roy's resume is piss poor for an HBO backed superstar, worse than Oscars, Holys fuck even Trindad's. Joe's is not anything to write home to mom about. I don't recall saying Roy wasn't an all time great. I think he lacked balls and never took a risk like Joe did. Roy never fought a younger, stronger young buck on his way up like Kessler. Joe left Wales and fought Hopkins in Hopkins' country. Both are hall of fame fighters. Stop bullshiting. Roy was a itch, imo. He never showed the suuperstar quality that yes Calzaghe displayed by leaving his country to fight the man with the legit title. See DM.. pLEASE STOP BULLSHITING.

I detest Roy the fighter. I never said he wasn't a great fighter. I would pick Bob Foster and Archie Moore over a prime Roy without hesitation.I might even pick Roy over Spinks in their primes. Stop misrepresenting what I have been saying.. Roy is one of the best fighters to lace them up in terms of talent.

 

Like REED Said, the Crop of LIGHTHEAVY's that Roy Beat (yet was CRITICIZED for by his Naysayers) were BETTER than the List of Names Kessler has on his Resume....

& Since we're Talking Supermiddle, Name ONE Guy that Kessler OR Calzaghe Beat @ that weight, that Would've BEATEN James Toney???...


REED:mj:

 

DUMBASS...

"Roy NEVER Fought a Younger, Stronger Young Buck on his Way Up, like Kessler"???...

U EVER Heard of John Ruiz???:bears:...He had 33 lbs, Height, Reach, Strength AND YES, AGE in his Favor, when he Faced Roy Jones...Sorry, but WAXING John Ruiz @ Heavyweight is MORE IMPRESSIVE than Calzaghe Beating Kessler...

So SPARE REED your Viking Loving ATTEMPTS @ Painting Kessler PRETTIER than he Really Is...The DUTCH Might Fall for it, but NOT REED...

N the SAME Thread, U're TAKING AWAY Any Credit from Roy Jones BEATING Calzaghe, yet U're GIVING Calzaghe PROPS for Beating 44 Year Old Bernard Hopkins???...Only YOU Could Straddle the Line THAT BADLY, yet Remain OBLIVIOUS to it...

& Those R YOUR Statements, NOT Some REEDing Comprehension Issue...U Really R THAT IDIOTIC about Boxing, Huh???...This ISN'T an Act on Your Part, but a NATURAL OCCURENCE, whenever U're FORCED into ELABORATING PAST the Comic Relief Stage of your Posts...

@ This Point, SAVE FACE by Admitting you're BIASED...

Bottom Line, Roy Jones' Resume is BETTER than Joe Calzaghe's...Roy Jones' Resume SHIT on Calzaghe's...Roy Jones Accomplished MORE than Calzaghe...Roy Jones is/was a BETTER FIGHTER than Calzaghe...



REED:mj:

 

1 name doesn't make a resume. What Roy did at 175 was better than what Kessler has done at 168. I read your initial post wrong though. Even so, I'll take Kessler's resume at 168 over Roy's.

 

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BTW-If Roy Jones and Calzaghe fight Jones will lose. This isn't 10 years ago anymore. 10 years ago Roy was twice the fighter Calzaghe was, now he's not better at all.

 

To answer the thread I lost just as much respect for Roy against Glen Johnson. That was a pathetic "performance". Roy ran his ass off.

 

Loll, Ruiz. I could hear the sound of you tapping out. Anyway, Roy's resume does not SHIT on Joe's. Is it better, yeah. Shit's on it --fuck no. And I am idiotic about Boxing? Yeah, Vinny Pazienza what a great win.

Reed I hope you aren't disputing that the 44 year old Hopkins was the undisputed Light heavyweight champ are you? You know the man who stopped your hero once and castrated him in the third fight. A guy named Tarver. Well, anyway Hopkins shut out your hero's dad with ease. Hopkins, like it or not, was the undisputed champion and Joe went to a foreign land to beat a guy who could make a rose smell like shit.jOE IS AND WAS PAST HIS PRIME.


Lol, a young buck Ruiz. That is rich.

Btw, Kessler is Danish from Denmark. Someone who is Dutch is from Holland/Netherlands. They are two distinct cultures. You can send me the bill for your free tutorial.

 

But that's just it, Val...

Ike's a Guy who will BITCH ALL DAY about Roy's Lightheavy Exploits, yet Now that he's MOIST on Calzaghe, he Wants to TALK UP Kessler's Supermiddle Resume???

Simply Put, that's an EXTREMELY HYPOCRITICAL Position to B in, for a So-Called "Boxing Fan"...



REED:mj:

 

Roy being the best fighter in the world at the time was held to different standards. I am not going to say if that is right or wrong but when a guy is clearly the best in the world people expect more out of them.

 

revisionism is a great thing :atu:

fact remains that at the time of their fights everyone thought that Ruiz was nobody...and that Kessler was the best fighter calzaghe could be fighting at 168

 

John Ruiz was a BETTER Win than Kessler OR Hopkins...PERIOD...

Guys like YOU DOUBTED Roy would even Fight him, Now U're Questioning Roy's "Cajones" & Dissing Ruiz???...How Convenient...U'll SHOUT to the World after PMing your Right Testicle, Claiming U were "Right" on Margarita-Cotto, yet when your Roy-Ruiz Thoughts R Proven WRONG on SEVERAL Fronts, U're MUMified...

Your Last Paragraph Brings this Particular Spat FULL CIRCLE...

There's NOfuckingWAY U Can Say "Roy vs. Calzaghe Means NOTHING", then Turn Around, Get on your Knees & BLOW Joe for Beating Hopkins...Calzaghe's YOUNGER than Hopkins, UNDEFEATED & Ranked HIGHER Lb 4 Lb than Hopkins was, even PRIOR to their Meeting...

Even if U were N your High School Science Lab, U COULDN'T Get Anymore DISSECTED than U have N this String of Posts...


REED:bears:

 

Did you read my post.
1. Roy is an all time great and his resume is not great
2. Joe is an all time great and his resume is not great.
I have never talked up Joe's resume ever. Roy never did what Joe did. Roy was never the lightheavyweight champion because he did not fight the real champion Joe did whether or not he was 44. Joe obviously had more balls. You want to talk about eing a hypocrite.

Stop arguing points I am not making. I shit on Roy's resume because he could have done more with his talent and backing.

 

Is that Why Roy-Ruiz Predictions were SPLIT 50/50 by the BOXING MEDIA???...

STOP Revising, Roboto...


REED:atu:

 

Again, I will stop reading when you make your first error. Not only did I predict Roy would win. I said he would win with ease. I doubt any of the other Roy nutticks will go agaisnt one of their own, but I always said Roy would win and I made a thread because I said Roy would win by shut out RUiz by running. In fact, you gave me credit for saying Roy fought ruiz in a masculine fashion.He fought liek a man and I made a thread about. Please stop lying.
And no Ruiz is not a bigger win than Joe's over Kessler. Kessler is a better fighter than Ruiz. It got more press but stop bullshitting. Ruiz was not young and even you called Lousy. Stop lying.Would you grow up. I am not getting dissected at all. You'd know what the word means if you went to high school.

 

quote=Free Ike;669894]Did you read my post.
1. Roy is an all time great and his resume is not great
2. Joe is an all time great and his resume is not great.
I have never talked up Joe's resume ever. Roy never did what Joe did. Roy was never the lightheavyweight champion because he did not fight the real champion Joe did whether or not he was 44. Joe obviously had more balls. You want to talk about eing a hypocrite.

Stop arguing points I am not making. I shit on Roy's resume because he could have done more with his talent and backing.[/quote]
Unless U PERSONALLY have Access to Each Man's Naked Crotch Area, REED Thinks it's VERY Presumptuous to Say "Joe Obviously had More Balls"...But Hey, Maybe U REALLY Know something REED Doesn't...

Is that Why it Took Joe DOUBLE DIGIT YEARS to even START Proving Himself???...

Like REED Said, it's OBVIOUS U're More "Into" Calzaghe than Jones..& that's FINE...Just ADMIT it...Roy Jones' Resume is BETTER than Joe Calzaghe's...MUCH Better...& REED will PERSONALLY OWN your Ass, if U DARE Start a Topic on that Matter...

Cause your Attempts @ "Proving" it R FUTILE...

REED HASN'T Argued a Single Point U DIDN'T ALREADY Make...Nor is REED misREEDing your Posts...AGAIN, U're Allowing your Attention WHOREish Attempts @ Humor to Render your OWN Points USELESS...


REED:hammert:

 

:atu: revisionism

dont think haters on boxing forums picking against him counts :atu: Roy was a heavy betting favourite, that's all that matters

Ruiz wasn't even considered a top 5 heavyweight



i wonder when Jones will face and beat a guy that not everyone expects him to beat, like Calzaghe has :dunno:

 

When U Factor N ALL the ADVANTAGES Ruiz had on Roy & the HISTORIC Angle, it IS a BIGGER Win than Calzaghe Over Kessler...

Ruiz was YOUNGER than Roy Jones & YOU Said Roy NEVER Fought a Younger Guy...U were WRONG...

Instead of TAPDANCING or Accusing REED of "MisREEDing" or "Changing" your Points, State them CLEARLY...DEVOID of the Shock Value & Psuedo Funny BULLSHIT that Permeates the Rest of your Material...


REED:kidcool:

 

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Calzaghe-Jones only means "nothing" if Calzaghe wins. If Jones won it would actually be signifigant for his legacy proving he could come back and beat another great fighter after being smashed a couple time. If Calzaghe wins he is just doing what he is supposed to, it's a no win situation for Calzaghe (besides money).

 

Again, BOXING MEDIA was Split 50/50...That has NATHAN to Do w/Haters or Lovers on Boxing Forums...

F.Y.I., Roy was a 2-1 Favorite...The LOWEST Odds he Face Since the Toney Fight...

Saying he was a "Heavy Betting Favorite" is 100% INaccurate...So AGAIN, Stop REVISING the Truth, Roboto...



REED:atu:

 

Since when did Mikkel Kessler become a f*cking elite fighter? After beating Mundine? Beyer? Andrade? A solid young champ, yes but give me a f*cking break. JEFF LACY's resume was as good, if not better, prior to meeting Joe C.

 

No. I agree with you that Kessler cannot be called an elite fighter yet, but I'd take his resume and the way he won his fights over Lacy's resume any day.

 

What do you mean? He jjust stood there and took a beating.ld:

 

Most people picked Kessler over Calzaghe as he was the more proven prior to their fight. And beating Mundine, Siaca, Andrade and Lucas tops anything Lacy did. Kessler is an elite fighter.

 

The above post is a contradiction. If Bernard was recognized as the light heavy champ, then he gained that lineage through the branch that went through Roy.

Joe had more balls than Roy? Give me a break. Hiding behind a promoter his whole career while spouting Roy's name for years and insisting that Roy must come to England, and that Roy would have to come down to 168 to fight him when Roy was king? Did Joe man up (like Roy) and give Robin Reid a rematch when many felt he lost? Did Joe fight as many past or current world champions as Roy did in 4 weight classes? Has Roy ever pulled out of fights due to fake injuries like Joe has?

C'mon man....

 

"Most" is Yet ANOTHER EXAGGERATION...Sure, ALOT of Fans Picked Kessler, but Certainly NOT Most...

Calzaghe was the SAFE PICK, which is how the Majority Usually Votes...

Calling Kessler "More Proven" than Calzaghe is ALSO an EXAGGERATION...Calzaghe was Kessler's 1st "Big" Fight...U're ALWAYS UNproven til U've Gotten Past that 1st BIG 1...

If Kessler is Already an "Elite" Fighter, then Roy Jones REALLY IS The Greatest Thing Since Sliced Bread...If Kessler's "Elite", then Roy Jones is/was "Elite" to the 100th Power...


REED:hammert: