How to rate Bradley & Witter?

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  1. mikE

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    Thanks.
     
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    Bradley kind of reminds of Mosley where he seems to be more brawler with a slight mix of defense rather than a pure boxer. He's not as talented and lacks pop so I don't expect him to go far, but he's a good gate keeper.

    I never really noticed how horrible Witter's style was. That god awful pawing shit he does with his jab or when combo's are thrown at him he keeps his chin straight up in the air and reacts very ameturishly, kind of like Hamed did. He seems like certain styles will give him trouble, namely anyone that can deal with his power and isn't a total bum. I'm glad he lost because dude is one of the worst eyesores in the sport. I'd rather watch Spinks fight.
     
  3. TKO

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    I was away for the weekend just got the result this morning - I couldn't help but laugh :lol: :laughing:

    Where's Ricky - I'd say Hatton pissed himself laughing on sat night.
     
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    A lot where saying Hamed would KO Floyd at 130. :lol:
     
  5. LOK

    LOK I'll eat your asshole alive

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    I always thought Hatton would destroy Witter and that witter was nothing all that special, I also found Bradley to be a real likeable guy and was hoping he could do it.

    I see Hatton beating either guy
     
  6. *Z*

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    I was not impressed with either guy. If this is the top of the 140 pound division it's not doing so hot right now.

    Malignaggi is the best 140lb'er right now. I think he beats everyone. Hatton included.
     
  7. Attraction

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    Junior produced a POOR performance and I was shocked.

    I just can't believe he was so poor, just terrible.

    I don't know what happened
     
  8. joony

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    how about giving bradley some credit?
     
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    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

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    Not so hard anymore, huh?
     
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    What Happened???:dunno: ....

    Your Boy BITCHED UP...AGAIN...

    Against Zab, he LACKED the Heart to EVER Try to Win...Against Bradley, After Getting DROPPED, Witter Basically Gave Up...

    NO Passion, NO Sense of URGENCY, NO Desperation...

    He's a CHOKE Artist who Doesn't DESERVE a Shot @ Hatton...


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    He is a choke artist, I agree.

    Being green and all that just isn't an excuse for zab anymore, you'd think with witter's big increase in experience and confidence the chances of him choking would be very slim.

    But yes, he bottled it again. He was basically intimidated by bradley's speed and skill, and energy/aggression etc, and he fuckign bitched out, you could see it in his face.
     
  12. Joe King

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    I never really thought about it but if you choke against the ultimate choker in Zab Judah.....:laughing:
     
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    Yep...

    There was a CLEAR Look of RESIGNATION on Witter's Face, as he Layed on the Canvas...

    & When the Bell Rang to End the Fight, Nobody was HAPPIER than Witter...

    Honestly, Witter Doesn't DESERVE the Level of FANDOM that Attraction has Given him Over the Years...


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  14. Attraction

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    So thats why he got up off the canvas then?

    Witter did what he had to do against Zab. He had two options, stand and fight and get Ko'd, or get on his bicycle.

    I know what I would do.

    Something was up against Bradley though. And maybe it's that he got old, I don't know. But he had nothing left from the 10th onwards. If he was such a bitch why didn't he quit?

    Do you also call Roy a bitch for his effort against Tarver in the third fight and his post fight interview "I'm happy I lasted the full distance, even though i never tried to win the fight".
     
  15. *Z*

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    Witter fades late, and it didn't help that right about the time he starts slowing (the 6th) he got dropped and couldn't get anything going after that.

    The one judge who scored it for witter was on crack. In no way did he deserve to win the fight even on one of the cards.
     
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    Yep, Roy Bitched Out N the 3rd Tarver Fight...That's the ONE Time REED has Been DISAPPOINTED after a Roy Jones Fight...

    But N Roy's Case, he was @ the TAIL END of a Brilliant, Hall of Fame Career...4 Titles N 4 Weight Classes & a 10+ Year Run as THE Best Fighter N the Sport, Lb 4 Lb...Roy Bitched Out Against a Guy that KO'ed Him w/1 Shot, N their Previous Fight...& that's THE ONLY Time he's EVER Bitched Out...

    By Comparison, Junior Witter is a "Never Was" who's Now Bitched Out TWICE...He Sandwiched N a BRIEF WBC Title Run btwn BITCHING OUT...



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  17. Attraction

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    LOL, roy bitched out but etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc..

    ROY BITCHED OUT PLAIN AND SIMPLE. (According to your logic).
     
  18. joony

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    roy is a bonafide hall of famer and one of the best ever. witter has about two significant wins in his career, which is defined by a loss.
     
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    Yep & Junior Witter, a Guy STILL N the "PROVE it to Me" Phase of his Career has Now Bitched Out TWICE...

    It's EASIER to Overlook Roy Bitching Out 1nce Based on his CAREER...Witter has NO Such Luxury...

    American's "Know" him for RUNNING vs. Zab, RIDING Ricky Hatton's NUTS & Bitching Out vs. Bradley...NONE of those R REDEEMING...


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  20. Attraction

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    I'm not arguing that point. Of course, Reed is trying to make it seem that way.

    Simply I am saying that if Witter is to be labelled a "BITCH" by Reed for his performance against Bradley, then Roy must also be labelled a "BITCH" by Reed for his performance against Tarver.

    Witter has had hard fights before. He was in a tough one with Kotelnik and was exhausted but went out and WON THE LAST ROUND (After losing the previous 5 on my card), and won the fight by a point. He has shown heart.

    When has Roy ever been down heavily like that and gotten up to finish the fight?
     
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    Roy Showed "Heart" N the 1st Tarver Fight...He had a MISERABLE 10th Round, Sucked it Up & WON the 11th & 12th...

    By Bringing Roy N 2 this, is that Supposed to MINIMIZE the FACT that Witter has FAILED YOU as a Fan???:dunno: ...


    REED:lol:
     
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    By the Way, "Where's Ricky", Attraction???


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  23. LOK

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    Roy and Witter should never be compared in any way
     
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    Still you avoid the point.

    Roy was 35, Witter is 35.

    Roy "bitched out", Witter "bitched out", according to you of course.

    You take the Witter vs Bradley fight, where I think Witter showed heart actually to get up from that heavy knockdown and fight through his exhaustion, and you call Witter a bitch for that.

    So therefore by your own logic ROY is a bitch for his performance against tarver where he was happy to go 12 rounds and lose a decision comfortably.

    I now expect you to avoid this point and to say, "but roy had a good career etc".
     
  25. Attraction

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    Why?

    Roy gets a pass for "bitching out" because he had the natural talent to beat the fighters he beat comfortably?

    :lol:

    Hmmm, I wonder if Roy would have "bitched out" again if he had been overmatched early in his career and put in with Ray Leonard when he was a novice. After all, he did BITCH OUT against Tarver.

    Witter was overmatched and took on Judah on 9 days notice and "bitched out".

    Of course Roy wouldn't have bitched out if he was overmatched that early and had 9 days notice to fight a fighter he wasn't ready for.
     
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    But that HAS to B Considered...

    When a Guy has Basically Done EVERYTHING N his Sport, Bitching Out Becomes EASIER to Do...U're SATISFIED & COMPLACENCY can Set N...Comparatively, when Another Guy has Accomplshed ALOT LESS, when he's STILL @ that Phase where he's PROVING Himself, Bitching Out is a Character Flaw...

    Roy's Fought Looooooooonger, Fought MORE Times & Accomplished INFINITELY More...Yet he's Bitched Out 1 FEWER Time than Witter Has:lol: ...

    So R U STILL Gonna Beat Fightbeat N 2 Submission w/Junior Witter Talk???...Can We Expect "Comeback" Updates???...Or will U NEVER "Love" Again???...



    REED:lol:
     
  27. Attraction

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    What HAS TO BE CONSIDERED is what happens WHEN THE GOING GETS TOUGH, and I'm afraid Roy's talent just delayed the going getting tough. The fact that he wasn't overmatched with 9 days notice like witter was DELAYED THE GOING GETTING TOUGH.

    Because when it got tough, he "bitched out".
     
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    So now we're comparing Roy & Witter - who b*tched out more?

    That's like asking who's "wackest" album was more wack, Biggie or Vanilla Ice.
     
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    Nobody "bitched" out. Witter just wasn't very good. :nono:
     
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    Roy kind of bitched out in one fight, Junior Witter IS A BITCH plain and simple in every single fight and pre or post fight interview of his career and everything in between fights too.. a smelly little bitch who got has clown-ass handed to him hopefully the last time he will ever be in the ring.
     

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