I benched 250lb twice

You really see only what you want to see, don't you, Tyler? I never said I do 100 pushups a day. That's LOK. Are you starting to get confused about who is whom? ::

Now do you see the alcohol reference from your own post? ::

You seem to think that it hurts you if you "keep training without no rest". Well, I'm of the opinion that bodyweight training affects the body differently than training with free weights or nautilus-type machines. AND I'm of the opinion that daily calisthenics can supplement your training both as a warmup AND as a training adjunct. I guess we'll see if I'm right about how it works for me at the end of this year. :dunno:

Oh, I almost forgot....you get used to it! :: ::

 

I could make a video, I guess. I have a year to figure it out, and by that time I'll be squatting, deadlifting, and benching really heavy weight.

If you don't do squats, deadlifts, bench press, or chins, then that's kind of a wash. Why don't you do them? With your superior training knowledge and knowledge of rest periods, you should be right up there, no problem! :notallthere: ::

I'm just busting balls now, dude. I'm confident my training will prove me right! :tease:

 

I guess in the final analysis, a person will know what works for them and what doesn't ONLY IF they try it out. For me, I started off with a couple of chins about 5 times a day, and now I am seeing significant improvement upon that. Eventually I may need to change the routine, but it works for now!

 

thats what I'm sayin Buddy, Tyler Turden acts like I'm saying bodyweight stuff is for everyone and I'm tryin to convert people, I'm just sayin it works for me

 

Nah, Tyler just wants to make sure that we're not overtraining and risking injury. My guess is he hasn't tried to do the chinups and other bodyweight exercises with the frequency that we do them. If he did, he'd realize that the same rules don't seem to apply to the bodyweight exercises. They are, simply put, easier and less taxing on the body.

 

Pushups for LOK, chinups for you. You are the one argueing about "you get used to it" so it might aswell be you doing it :dunno: You are into working out everyday, let's not get into semantics :nono:

I don't see why the alcoholism reference is kinda sketchy at "bast", maybe in the next post you will explain how that analogy troubles you :dunno:
Well, I'm of the opinion that bodyweight training affects the body differently than training with free weights or nautilus-type machines. AND I'm of the opinion that daily calisthenics can supplement your training both as a warmup AND as a training adjunct.

So am I :notallthere: I disagree however on doing it 7 days a week :doh:

 

Right up there? Yeah I could do benching and squats heavy, but it's dangerous doing it by yourself and like I said at least 4 times now.....what's the point? I prefer isonlation exercises for what I want to accomplish. I'm strong and anyone who lifts weights to anything fewer than 6 reps is Olympic weight lifting type of training :dunno: I don't go less than 6 reps I can do comfortably. Being a more rounded trainer yourself you should know why

 

Nah, Tyler is just saying what he has been saying since post one, you are more likely to get burned out and if you train every single day, you are not allowing your muscles rest. Of course you get used to it But you do not get in quicker shape because of it, I argue it slows you down until you do. I also have said since post one, I do not believe you cannot significantly measure training being better doing it everyday (7 days a week) to someone who trains a little less. How this is being argued against is beyond me. People who use Atkins diet "works for them" and "they get used to it" but they usually fail, get much fatter and hurt their health, so "it works for me" and "get used to it" means :shit: and that's not any kind of argument. :warning:

 

A couple of chins, that's a little different than training everyday to fatigue as I was OBVIOUSLY insinuating. If you would have just said you start out slow, very slow like that, I wouldn't have argued with you unless it was 7 days a week :dunno:

 

Tsk tsk, and here I was sticking up for you and saying you were just watching out for us. Naughty naughty! :stir: ::

 

Actually, I am looking out for the people who don't know any better :stir:

 

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I guess you didn't read my posts in LOK's 100 chins thread. I started out very easy on this. Meh, no biggie. I just think you wanted to argue with someone. ::

 

No I didn't.

If you can't admit I succeded in at least that, you have problems ::

 

I just read that thread, at least the first page......I assumed you guys were working out every day so you could do 100 a day ::

 

Succeeded in what?

 

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Oh that, yeah you definitely succeeded in getting me to argue. I don't mind. Nowadays I try to put a positive spin on it all. I thought you were just looking out for us by questioning the training methodology. I'd rather believe someone is looking out rather than being a dork! ::

 

One can do both!

How can we accomplish this bet? respectively I would have to lift something a certain amout of reps that isn't too heavy to prove I am in shape, you do so many chinups and bench presses? I don't go to a gym, so this is my only motivation :dunno: I will go to a boxing gym later in the year when I am in real good shape, but I'm not bringing a camera unless it's a sanctioned fight :nono: Which I should later......so I guess that could be my main proof :dunno:

 

Like I said, I bench, squat, and deadlift once a week. I do chins 5 days a week. I guess a good question would be physical dimensions. Right now I am 220lbs and I stand 5ft8.

Whether there is or isn't a bet, I'm gonna get pics of me doing a one-rep max in those three lifts as well as a vid or two to commemorate a year of solid training. I only get to train at lunch hour most days because my wife and homelife takes up the rest of my time.

How about a vid of # of consecutive chins? That way we can keep track of whose method is more effective? How about one-rep max in bench, squat, deadlift, and overhead press? I mention these because they are what I do weekly.

 

I told you I don't go below 6 reps :dunno: And I only do isolation exercises......unless you are asking if thats the proof you want to show :dunno: There should be a required amount that proves a person is in shape, example: I would use 60 pound dumbells to do 6 reps on a horizontal butterfly on a bench :dunno: But the real test would be me in a ring, you HAVE to be in shape to just go 3 rounds, even if it amateur :dunno:

 

We can make a bet on a set of 10 reps in the squat, bench, deadlift, and overhead power press. I should be overhead pressing at least 275 for 10 by that time. ::

 

Sounds good for you, I told you I only do isolation exercises, so let me know what would be acceptable to you, from me.

 

Only isolation exercises, eh? What about chinups with a shoulder-width grip? Well, off to bed, I'll check in tomorrow!

 

How about exercises I use, then go from there ::

I have a routine I follow, and getting down in weight, I am not going to be lifting alot as I do not want to bulk up.

Example: 60 pound dumbells at least 6 reps horizontally. I know I won't go over that weight, or at least I shouldn't if I am going down in weight. That should be proof of being in shape for chest. I will post my exercises I do and you can choose some more from them.

 

I alternate each exercise for each muscle group twice a week.

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Rope pull down for stomach, calisthenics for stomach
Cable curl, seated dumbell curl, curl with that thing under your arms, I forget it's name
Reverse curl for hamstrings
Standing calf raises/seated calf raises

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Incline press, butterflies vertical, butterflies dumbell, decline press
leg curl with machine/gravity squat
Shoulder shrugs with machine
Lat pulldown, machine rows
Rope for triceps


*I don't use isolation exercises on my shoulders, i take care of that doing this :blobbox:

 

I just went ot ANOTHER level :blobbox: It's on, I am where I should be three weeks from now, fightbeat was with me on that one ::

1 down, 51 to go :blobbox:

 

i'll do a clip of when I can get a one armed chin

 

That's a great goal for the end of the year. If I can get at least one of those, then I'd be on Cloud 9...or better yet, a set of them. :clap:

 

yeah, that is one of my goals for the year, as well as walking the length of a football field on my hands, doing 100 straight pushups (i'm almost there) and running a sub 5 min mile

 

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