I See Old Carl Froch Is Running Off At The Lips Again........

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  1. loadedgloves

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    Don't worry, it won't be close
     
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    Well, on a societal level, I'm satisfied enough with the spiteful reign of Europeans against America's frustrated supremecist complex in the supermiddleweight division over the years, it was well needed,.. I think it has done the job, it's great to compress hatred until it cracks the brain into a submission of sorts, Oh some will hate forever, but deep down they have to respect what happenned,..now when Ward wins, it'll be more like.. "phew, thank god for that" ... instead of the kind of rage-filled riot reaction you'd expect from someone like Hopkins,..which would have more likely been the case 20 years ago. It couldn't happen to a nicer piece of shit like Carl Froch to pass over the torch just quietly,.. hopefully he has a bitch-fit like Zab post-fight,.. and I do believe he's capable of it :crafty: , the roaring tribal british scum who swarm over for these events do deserve the exact same treatment actually,.. a double-whammy in light of the heartbreaking Haye defeat could do wonders,..grind that horrible pugnacious brainless arrogance to a fucking hault.
     
  3. Irish

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    I think a Froch win would see old Al Bernstein visiting Mount Sheba Cedars Sinai Sinatra hospital or whatever the fuck it is they call it.

    Truthfully, as you stated, this will be a high-class, waiting-to-exhale moment when Ward get's his W......it won't be low-class fare, a la Hopkins, but I expect all the chums to chime in, all the pals will be there, it has the makings of a massive event, too bad they picked a Mob infested shit-hole to host it in, I hope Local 54 are on-point, we don't want people waiting too long for their after-fight tipple, now do we??? Joe vs Jeff was a long time in being avenged, it would be a pity if Paulie and the boys didn't get their cut on time and Al and Joe Tess and Hauser and the boys couldn't get seated. :nono:

    Froch has, of course, got his merits, and his de-merits, he is probably not too much of an improvement on Kid Conte, but he relies on that Beersheba hardness as opposed to a vial of this or that to get the job done. He knows he can't win a Decision so he probably is ready for it, unlike poor old Zab, who only had to show up, knowamsayin?
     
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  4. KaukipRrr

    KaukipRrr "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Sure, they may fan up like a peacock post fight,.. but it's what's on the inside that counts,... Loaded "Easy work for Haye" Gloves could strut and proclaim, "see, this is the way it is" ...but on the inside,.. a heart beating at the rate of a hummingbird,.. and that's because of the forced respect,.. not the kind of SHOCK that would cause somebody like Hopkins to have a bewildered flash of psychopathic ballistics and riot with racial rage.
     
  5. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Froch is being a bitch, I was starting to like this guy until he started talking this nonsense. Ward fought and BEAT Kessler, and guy Froch could not beat and so what if he didn't fight Jermain Taylor, he had as much claim to being a top 168lber as Green or Bika, who IMO would both beat Taylor. Froch should also shut his mouth about Ward having no power, did he forget that Jermain Taylor had him hurt pretty bad? He also had a far from easy time with Dirrell and I didn't even think he won that fight at all to be honest.

    I hope Ward destroys Froch.
     
  6. Irish

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    Yep. :truce:

    As I said, this is the big one. If Ward screws the pooch here, it could be curtains for a lot of big names.

    But if Ward wins, I expect a lot of folk to have their first good nights rest in a long time.
     
  7. Irish

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    I felt that way too when Froch was doing Studio work for SKY before Wlad vs Haye. He, Froch, was doing excactly the same thing that will be done to him when he hit's AC. Biased, half-assed analysis, talking one guy up, putting the other guy down, asking all the right questions, so to speak.

    Don't let anybody think that I am not as aware of Froch, and Frochs people, general behaviour. I am, and have called it repeatedly in the past.

    I've never been a major fan of Froch, much of that stems from his constant whining and bitching and all-round Larry-Holmzing by referencing past-champions and basically bemoaning his lot.

    That said his resume is one of the best in the business right now.
     
  8. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    He's a good fighter for sure, I do enjoy watching him fight. If he would just not talk, that would be great.
     
  9. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Froch is a stud, and has balls to fight the best, unlike much of the clowns who fight out of UK (calzage anyone?). I don't care about what he says outside the ring as long as he continue to fight the best
     
  10. steve_dave

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    Agreed.
     
  11. loadedgloves

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    You two (Irish & Kauki) are both complete faggots. Your infantile jingoism is seriously tired.

    Also, I picked Wlad to beat Haye.
     
  12. Irish

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    What does that make you? An incomplete faggot?? What are you, circumcised or something? Then again you always did strike me as a complete prick, so that rules that out.

    Jingoism? Whose cause have we rallied to? We are railing against jingoism, rather than promoting it.

    God Bless America.
     
  13. loadedgloves

    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I swear I was going to make a comment about Readers Digest level sophomoric wordplay but left it. You never fail to be depressingly predictable.

    You are railing against imagined jingoism partially out of your own jingoism, and also because you can't conceive that anyone would see the world differently from you.

    You're 10000x more annoying than Hanz and considerably less funny. I don't understand why you're not banned.
     
  14. Muzse

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    I'm not a Ward fan per se, but he's a respectable guy. Froch's shit talking only makes him look bad.

    I thought the same when he fought Kessler...wasn't a need to be a dick. I get that's who he is, but perhaps he should take heed and realize he doesn't have a big personality like Haye...whose shit talking ultimately made him look like a bigger ass when he performed like a bitch.

    I give Froch a better shot than most if he keeps it on the outside. On the inside he loses.

    Plus...he should watch what he says about the Dirrell fight. I thought he lost the fight and Dirrell had him badly hurt in the 10th or 11th from an uppercut.
     
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  15. Irish

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    Yeah a big left from Direll had him retreating. Froch's bolloxology began way back with some spat between him and Joe Calzaghe which made a certain amount of sense when they were both active, but Froch kept it up after Joe retired by calling Calzaghe a "sad fatboy" and making comments about Calzaghe's appearance on "dancing with the stars". Then he lost to Kessler.:limp:
     
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    From the Moment REED 1st Saw Carl Froch Fight (Some Shobox Card), he Immediately LIKED Froch's SWAG...He's Obviously ARROGANT as Hell, but it's in More of a SUBDUED Fashion than Most...Froch is the Type to Sit Back & CALMLY Tell U How Good he Is, While Drinking a Cup of Tea...He's NOT Loud or In your Face w/It...

    But the Thing is, Froch Takes his Swag INTO the Ring w/Him...His STYLE of Fighting is as Arrogant as his Out of Ring Demeanor is, Which Tells REED that Froch Genuinely BELIEVES what he Says...It's NOT False Bravado...

    Froch is BALLSY & Battle Tested...He's Weathered Adversity Against Jermain Taylor, Andre Dirrell & Mikkel Kessler & Came Out of it 2-1, 1 KO...U HAVE to Respect That...While Not Great in 1 Particular Area, Froch ISN'T Bad in Any Particular Area Either...He's Well Rounded Enough, TOUGH Enough & DETERMINED Enough to Pull an Upset...

    But REED is Expecting Ward's SKILL to B the Difference...

    REED:hammert:
     
  17. steve_dave

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    I want to be clear, I think Froch is very good - and I don't think it's a guarantee Ward beats him, even though I expect him to.
     
  18. Muzse

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    I'd agree with that. Ward should have all kinds of issues getting inside if Froch keeps a decent jab in his face. Even with Froch's left hanging low Ward will have to be on point in breaking distance to get in his shots. if Ward can't do that we'll see a ton of his shots come up way short...especially if Froch leans back.

    Ward should have success in two areas...one...in close. That goes without saying. Though he doesn't look it, I think Ward is stronger than Froch will realize.

    Secondly, Froch should NEVER come in on Ward. His footwork is awful and he lunges in squared up. Ward could easly catch him off balance and score a cheesy knockdown.

    Froch's best bet is to jab, wait until Ward lunges in then sit on uppercuts. I was going to say tie Ward up when he gets inside but Andre' will take care of that himself.

    :finger:
     
  19. Double L

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    I agree he's just talking shit. But still. He has to have some regard for reality when he makes his case, and saying that Ward is protected is ridiculous.
     
  20. KaukipRrr

    KaukipRrr "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    It's just a confirmation, passive nibbles through stealth draw out the answers you well know that.
     
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    This is why I'm delightfully confident that Froch has no chance, Ward has the kind've footwork and handspeed to make Froch uncharacteristically bring up his guard the way he was scared into it by Dirrell, this will slow Froch down even more, and he'll be desperate to get close, at which point, Ward will become Froch's monster in the closet. If it isn't a complete and thorough arse-whupping, I'd be absolutely shocked, for Froch is beaten at all ranges.
     
  22. *Z*

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    I just can't see Froch winning this, he was outboxed by Jermain Taylor and Dirrell and Ward is far better than both of them. Outside of landing a huge bomb, I really don't think he has much of a chance here, in the US or anywhere else. I don't see it being close if it goes to the cards. Ward will win by a huge margin.
     
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    but only because of the vast American conspiracy to hijack the Super Six tournament... a gathering of fighters that 98.9999% of Americans have never heard of in a division many don't even realize exists, in order to bestow a crown upon the head of an American olympian ("they still have boxing in the olmpics?," say confused Americans) who has a cerebral, defense-based style that doesn't play well to neophytes, most of whom do not have the network the event will be appearing on
     
  24. Irish

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  25. Irish

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    Ward will win by a huge margin, most likely for the same reasons that Foreman got the nod against Schulz, or Oscar got the nod against Sturm, etc etc etc...because home-town fighters get home-town decisions, all over the world. Some fine day somebody in America might just, ahem, cotton-onto that idea.
     
  26. Muzse

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    It's likely Froch and Ward would have fought already if he didn't get a hometown decision against Dirrell.
     
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    Or if Kessler didn't get one against Froch, or if Ward had been DQ'd for butting Kessler, or if.....my aunt had a great big 12" black prick she would be my great big black uncle. You get the drift.

    Besides, you make the point as well as I could myself.......hometown decisions exist...everywhere. In England for Froch, in Denmark for Kessler, in America for Ward.

    Simples. [​IMG]
     
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    Good points, Irish. Ward gets gift after gift in the states. It has to stop.
     
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    Kessler-Froch is a bad example of a hometown decision. It was a close fight and a good fight at that.

    And stop speaking ill of your BLirish uncle.
     
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    so no one ever wins legitimately by a huge margin?

    And what gifts has Ward gotten, decision-wise?
     

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