IF Floyd dominates Oscar....

My bad, re..Hernandez.

But...Floyd DEFINITELY dominated Baldomir. If that wasn't domination then I don't know what is?

 

Floyd is gonna stop him!

DLH will be making tacos soon

 

Duran is better than all of them. When it really counted and they were both prime, game and well trained, Duran bashed Leonard up.

Clue yourself up on boxing steve dave, especially if you're going to be assigned "admin". Watch the whole of Duran's lightweight career, then his victories over palomino, leonard, moore, barkley etc.

 

Not by anyone who had seen Margarito fight.

 

if he picks & pecks his way to a decision, it means very little to me.
If he gets in the trenches & takes DLH's heart I'd be impressed (and amazed).
The thing is, a close fight is good enough for both these guys. That's the problem

 

Margarito, Smargarito!

Zab was the man who beat the man who beat the man who beat the man...etc

And Baldomir had beaten that man.

F*ck Margarito

 

Actually in a few years..the way Mayweather handles money..he will be the one making tacos...:cheer:

 

I'm very surprised and disappointed that so many "fans" of the sport would be unwilling to give Floyd much credit if he were to dispose of Oscar on Saturday night.

This is a VERY ambitious move by Floyd: people seem to be underrating this. This is a guy who was a Superfeatherweight not too long ago (Pacquaio's, marquez's, barrera's current weight) and is now willing to fight at Junior Middleweight, against not just anyone...but Oscar De La Hoya...a great champion who recently KOed the iron chinned Mayorga.

This is no easy feat! What's wrong with you guys?:dunno:

 

When you look back on Fraud's career, it's plain to see that he doesn't like swarming Mexicans who pressure him relentlessly, and that was back in the days where he held significant size advantages over everyone barr Corrales. He was never, EVER going to realistically face Margarito,..that was definitely a BOLD 'X' marked on his route map to 154.

 

hahahaha!

So I guess Oscar is a much easier fight than Margarito....

 

No, not much easier, they both have thier strengths,..it's just we've seen Fraud in with intense pressure styles before, and they always give him HELL,..even Augustus had him flustered with pressure,.. Oscar isn't a pressure fighter, but he has GOOD qualities of which Fraud has never dealt with before,..particularly Oscar's tactical skills, his accuracey and his HUGE POWER in that left hook..he's also got an iron-chin,..so basically I figure Oscar's just got this skittish pillow to beat on for 12 rounds, there's nothing much coming back.

 

ambitious? who wouldn't take a fight with ODH? it was either this or get his ass kicked by Margarito. which would you choose? what this is is PBF cashing in on his over-ratedness, before a guy like Paul Williams or Margarito knocks him off.

you'll see this Saturday why PBF refused to face Margarito, and why instead he fought Judah and Baldomir.

 

That post was mostly for the reaction. I just don't like Duran.

 

I've seen all of those fights.

 

i agree. and basically, that's what he did against Baldomir after about 4 rounds when he couldn't keep Baldomir at bay. so i don't expect that he'll have any other choice if he insists on winning. if he goes in the trenches he will get hurt, no doubt.

 

It isn't Ray Leonard's fault that Duran didn't show up 100% for the rematch, it's Roberto Duran's fault. You shouldn't give Duran a pass for that match, or for his other quit-job.

Remember, Roberto Duran quit the same number of times Acelino Freitas did.

 

nobody's giving Duran a pass. but when a fighter proved as much as he did, it's pretty hard to define him based on one or two quit jobs.

 

This isn't a Hagler-Hearns or Duran-Leonard type of defining moment, but it's close.

 

i think it's every bit the moment. and the extent that it isn't is strictly a function of boxing's decline in general, not because the fight in and of itself is any less significant.

 

You also can't ignore them. I rank Duran about #6 of all time, pound-for-pound, but if he hadn't quit, he'd have a good shot at being #1. Here's my current top 10:

1. Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Muhammad Ali
4. Harry Greb
5. Sam Langford
6. Roberto Duran
7. Joe Louis
8. Jimmy Wilde
9. Ezzard Charles
10. Benny Leonard

When did Ray Robinson ever quit? He fought until he couldn't stand up against Maxim. Armstrong in his prime was only stopped once, against over 100 knockouts. Ali never quit. Greb broke his arm in a fight once, and spent the rest of the round trying to knock the other guy out. That was one of two stoppages he suffered in his career, which lasted 400 fights. The other was when he was new to the sport. There was no quit in Sam Langford, or anyone besides Duran in my top 10. The only reason Duran's ranked so high is because he was that good.

 

Shut up, Zac.

 

Of course Floyd should be given props for dominating Oscar. Even for just beating him. But going into it I give Oscar credit for being a good fighter even if he is past his prime. He still offers a good challenge to anybody.

my problem is with people that only give a fighter props when it's convenient. Alot of people talk about how overrated and shitty Oscar is but when floyd beats him they put that aside and already want credit like he beat a legend.

The same shit happened with GAtti. Floyd beat a warrior but aside from tha fight Gatti is garbage.

you can't have it both ways. I know alot of people don't like Oscar or Floyd for that matter but it doesn't help your case to digrade a fighter so much and later want to give your fighter credit for beating him. :notallthere:

 

I'm going to give props to whoever wins. Here are the reasons why:

Oscar-

-Has been INACTIVE for a year and in prior to that fought close to 2 years prior.
-A win over the current best fighter in the world, who is technically undefeated.

Mayweather-

-Moving up in weight, first fight at 154. Has worked hard to fill frame of welter, jr middle.
-Never been involved in mega event before.
-Despite the inactivity, Oscar perhaps the BEST at 154 right now.

For those picking Oscar, it is known Floyd doesn't like PRESSURE from bigger guys. WHEN was the last time Oscar imposed his size, cutting the ring off on technical boxer?

Mayweather bulked up, who is to know, it will be Floyd doing the chasing? He BETTER for boxing sake. All those casual fans will be incredibly PISSED OFF if he wins a BORING decision.

 

How can you not like Duran? That's almost like not liking boxing.

 

The fact that you rank Ali above Duran just shows how absurd you really are. The only 2 that have an argument to be above him are Robinson and Armstrong.

 

How is Oscar shot?:nono: