If Marquez upsets Pacquiao...

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  1. loadedgloves

    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I realized I was just favoring Chavez's aggression and damage caused in that fight.

    If a fighter is unable to continue with 2 seconds left, yes, that fighter is stopped. Taylor was CLEARLY ABLE TO CONTINUE. He got up. He looked at the ref. He nodded. He looked at his corner. He was clearly able to continue, especially for another 2 fucking seconds.
     
  2. Anthony

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    You are so full of shit. There are a number steps in order for a ref to determine if a fighter is ready to continue. If Taylor was to even aknowledge the ref, he would have been asked to perform the next step, which is to walk to steele. And had he done that, he would have won just from time running out. But he couldnt even answer steele, so steele could next ask for Taylor to Walk forward. So steele stopped it. as well he should have. You cant determine if someone is able to continue without having them walk foward. He could look fine and dandy, but if he wobbles, they will stop the fight. Blame Taylor not steele.

    And i dont beleive for one second you were on the opposite side of this arguement so you can fuck off with that shit
     
  3. loadedgloves

    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I don't really give a fuck what you think. The argument you made was stupid and unscientific to begin with, and your position as the board dunce is well established here.
     
  4. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

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    thank you

    why is this so hard to comprehend?
     
  5. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

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    he did not nod, he never responded in ANY fashion
     
  6. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

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    Pretty good rundown of what happened, starting at the 6:40 mark.

    <iframe width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/dVGNDg9YcME" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    And then continued here...

    <iframe width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/J4fkqBvP244" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
  7. loadedgloves

    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgenYK7VaxY

    Taylor nods at :06, but he's looking toward Lou Duva.

    Regardless of whether you think he nodded or not, look at the clock when Steele starts asking him if he's OK - he starts asking him if he's OK, and then starts waving off the fight ALL WITHIN ONE SECOND (:06-:05). You're going to tell me that's normal!?
     
  8. The Genius

    The Genius DEMONRY!!

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    He asked him if he was ok twice. No response except to look away.
     
  9. loadedgloves

    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    He asked him if he was ok twice and started waving off the fight all within one second. He didn't really give him a chance to respond.
     
  10. loadedgloves

    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Anthony Admin Staff Member

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    And you are quickly establishing your position as lead tick on the sweaty nuts of Floyd Mayweather. As well as a self proclaimed know it all, lying sack of shit.
     
  12. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    GF ain't taking no shit these days. When did you get so hostile? Judo throw these motherfuckers!
     
  13. loadedgloves

    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    You have no reason to believe I'm lying other than that it suits your point of view. Of course, given that your hallmark is weak and fallacious reasoning, that's more than enough to establish a fact in your puny, underdeveloped mind. One of the many reasons why nobody respects you here, why you're generally looked upon as a joke on a board you help run.

    Now get off my sack and go back to researching the origins of Obama's birth certificate, you dickless little turd.
     
  14. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

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    Of course i have a reason to doubt you are lying. Look at your history on here. You are NEVER wrong. Always have to be right. As soon as i say that the believers always go from Taylor being robbed to a Fair decision, here comes Mr. Know it all with the exact opposite scenario in himself. You have no objectivity when it comes to Mayweather. You have been clowned on here in the Talyor discussion similar to how you have been clowned in the mayweather discussions in the past. And the simple fact you bring up Obama in the General Discussion PROVES that you are not only trying to distract others from the verbal ass pounding you are receiving by more logical members than yourself, but that you have absolutely nothing more to add on this subject.
     
  15. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

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    Obama :lol:

    I thought we were discussing Taylor vs. Chavez.:laugh11:

    Transparent bitch.
     
  16. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

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    EXACTLY, he never responds to Steele... Steele is addressing the fighter, "Are You Okay?" and the fighter never acknowledges him in any way, instead he is looking in another direction... fight over, man

    It's a good call

    if you wanna say its a good call from a shitty ref, you can say that too if you want
     
  17. Anthony

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    No, it shouldn't matter. Steele is suppose to realize that Taylor is okay and he just distracted by his Corner and allow the fight to continue. Never mind that he was suppose to be paying attention to the ref. Never mind logic that means nothing. Steele is suppose to be all knowing and should have given Taylor the benefit of the doubt.
     
  18. loadedgloves

    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Uh, no. I didn't bring up Obama or your research into the legitimacy of his birth certificate so we could discuss it, I brought it up because that was a hilarious example that immediately came to my mind of your views and statements establishing your idiocy well prior to this conversation. Notice how I haven't really discussed this topic seriously with you, the way I'm discussing it with cdogg and others. This is because you're a fucking dolt, and I'm not going to sit here pretending like you're my peer and talking to you as such.

    Oh, and regarding "verbal asspounding," the only person disagreeing acrimoniously here is you. I understand you're butt-hurt over wanting to be treated like an adult and have your opinions taken seriously instead of just being told you're an idiot and to shut up, but it's kind of your fault for having repeatedly proven yourself to be a moron who isn't worth discussing anything with.
     
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  19. Anthony

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    Again, you brought up Obama because you have nothing else to add and you want to distract. Which is fine. You need to do what you need to do. He nodded yes, oh I mean he nodded to duva, Steele should have known, etc. Just move on.

    Your argument is ridiculous. BTW, i never said i was giving you a verbal ass pounding. You might want to check that again.

    You dont have to discuss it with me. The fact that you are going back and forth with me right now, show's how relevant i am to you. Again, you are always right and could never leave my confrontational comments alone. THAT is why you are responding to me. Because i made you, using your own ego.
     
  20. loadedgloves

    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    That might be something you could pass off as valid if I weren't still responding to others here that are actually discussing the topic at hand. Aside from that, I wasn't discussing the Chavez/Taylor fight with you at any point to begin with, that I would need to "distract."

    I never said you said that, you only think I said that because you have the reading comprehension ability of a brain damaged chimpanzee. It doesn't even remotely make sense for you to reply with this in light of the statement I made. Really, how fucking stupid are you?

    Actually, I made a confrontational comment to you first. You've been following me around and whining like a butt-hurt little girl since then. It's amusing to watch, though.
     
  21. Dog Jones

    Dog Jones WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    So I guess Marquez upsetting Pacquiao means that Richard Steele made the incorrect decision
     
  22. loadedgloves

    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Once again, look at the clock. Literally within the confines of one second (06:-05) Steele asks the fighter if he's OK and then waves off the fight. ALL WITHIN ONE SECOND. How is that normal?? Have you ever seen that done before by any referee, in any fight?

    Once the fighter gets up (and Taylor easily beat the count), the referee asks if he's OK and is supposed to stop the fight to PROTECT THE FIGHTER. Does anyone believe Taylor needed protection here?

    And again, if Steele gives Taylor an extra whole 2 seconds to respond, would there ever have been any controversy about the ending?

    Someone in the b'scene thread pointed out that if Steele had done the same thing to Chavez, he wouldn't have made it out of the state alive. It's absolutely true that this would have been an even bigger controversy if the roles were reversed, simply because of who Chavez was.
     
  23. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

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    http://www.fightbeat.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1085242&postcount=66

    Pay attention next time. You were talking to me just fine until i told you to go fuck yourself. From there your poor little feelings got hurt and you began insulting me whenever you got the chance. It's okay. You can rest assured that i didnt mean no harm. It was just a joke.
     
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    He was looking dead in his eyes. Taylor was out on his feet. Needed to hold onto the ropes in order to stay up.
     
  25. loadedgloves

    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    You didn't tell me to "fuck myself," you said "And fuck you if you don't agree." I didn't realize that was specifically directed at me, I read that as a general statement to those who disagreed with your point. I specifically and directly called you a dumbfuck, since you are one and weren't saying anything useful - and haven't been saying anything useful throughout the course of this entire conversation (all you've done is regurgitate cdogg's arguments in a considerably less literate fashion). After that I don't think I replied to you again until you made a completely useless argument, and then you became an clingy little bitch again when I debunked it.

    To think that it's relevant that people (let alone a limited sampling of people you know) haven't changed views in a specific direction is yet another great example of what a hopeless fucktard you are. I would tell you to go do some basic reading on logical fallacies and cognitive biases, but I might as well tell a cripple on their deathbed to go learn how to surf.

    "Didn't mean no harm" is a double negative, btw (have an adult who actually knows English explain it to your illiterate bumpkin ass).
     
  26. Anthony

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    It was directed at you. I quoted you. I said fuck you if you dont agree. You dont agree. That is why you retaliated back. Before that, you didnt say shit. You were debating with me and weren't saying anything rude. I got confrontational with you and it hurt you. Which is fine. I started it. Just stop crying already.

    As for regurgitating Cdogg's comments, that's a joke. Especially since i was the first to comment on it. I made my stance very clear before Cdogg Chimed in.

    And as far as the lesson's in grammar, just another example of you trying to distract. If you have to focus on someone's grammar in order to make a point, you have already lost the argument.
     
  27. loadedgloves

    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I called you a dumbfuck because your post was useless and regardless of whether it was specifically directed at me, it applied to me. That doesn't mean I took it as a personal attack. Regardless, if you had started it and I had been really upset about it, it seems logical that I would have remembered that you started it. But we all know that following a basic thought process like that is beyond you.

    I don't recall who commented first, as you've already established your posts aren't that significant that I'm going to remember the order they occurred in. But while you and cdogg appear to have reached the same conclusion, there's obviously a world of difference in the quality of your respective postings and the thought process that goes into them.

    It's kind of funny how we're discussing your stupidity, yet you attempt to dismiss every example I cite of your stupidity as me "trying to distract." If you can't even communicate literately in your native fucking tongue, it's generally a pretty good sign that you're a dumbass.

    Also, it's "lessons." Ignorant fuck.
     
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    :lol::lol: I wont even point out the obvious irony in this post.
     
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    That being said, since our master English teacher now wishes to discuss grammar and spelling errors, while ignoring his own, I will continue to defend my stance that Taylor was not robbed and was beaten fairly by Chavez. All the facts back me up, and all the opposing view has is shoulda coulda wouldas.
     
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    Neil tueur de grenouilles

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