If Oscar DOMINATES Floyd,.........

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  1. REEDsART

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    Instead of WAITING for the Situation to Play Itself Out,Arum Joined N,Heaping NEGATIVE Publicity @ HIS OWN Fighter...

    Only Problem Is,the Case was BULLSHIT...

    2 this Day,Damn Near EVERYBODY Calls Floyd a "Woman Beater",but there's NO Factual Evidence Behind it...

    REED:cool:
     
  2. Father of Muzse

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    Floyd's case went to trial and the woman recanted her story, which could mean she picked up some cash on the side.

    The woman did have scratches on her (including her face). Floyd acknowledged dragging her out of the car (pulling her from the passengers seat across the drivers seat) and his lawyers speculated that she got the scratches from being dragged across the steering wheel, not from Floyd hitting her.

    REED, I'd ask you to try that move with your wife and see exactly what happens to you in court. Something tells me it's not going to play out the same for you that it did for Floyd. Mind you, that's what Floyd admitted to.

    Oscar simply settled his out of court, meaning he paid the girls (plural) off.

    Sounds to me like Floyd was late to the table with the hush money.
     
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  3. Father of Muzse

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    Here's the article from USA Today I read...at the bottom, it does state that Mayweather was convicted of a misdemeanor battery charge the year prior to the incident with his babies momma...

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/boxing/2005-07-29-mayweather-trial_x.htm?csp=34

    Last year, Mayweather was convicted of misdemeanor battery stemming from a fight with two women at a Las Vegas nightclub. He received a suspended one-year jail sentence and was ordered to undergo "impulse-control" counseling.

    Seeing that Floyd was convicted of this the prior year, it makes the later case seem more credible and the recanting of the baby mommas story a tad bit more fishy.

    The main reason I believed the statutory rape charges against Oscar is based on it not being an isolated incident...the same holds true for R. Kelly.

    It's like Katt Williams said, (paraphrasing) "people don't say the same shit about you for 20 years and the shit ain't true. Whitney Houston has smoked her knee caps off and we're still saying it ain't true."
     
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    wow you wouldnt mind a 24 year old guy impregnating your 14 year old daughter?
     
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    We have a good idea of how good DLH is. We don't have such a good idea about PBF. If DLH convincingly beats him, it says more about PBF.
    For me, it would definitively prove, what I suspect is the case -that he was over-rated & not worthy of mentioning among the greats.
     
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    If ODLH wins, it really won't mean much. PBF is naturally much smaller, less powerful, weak-hitting, more cowardly, and a lot poorer than ODLH.
    From what Double L and Reed have been telling me, PBF is also less endowed than ODLH.
    So, ODLH's victory is basically worthless.
     
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    I'm still trying to figure out how in the hell is PBF still favored in this fight. Correct me if I'm wrong but ODLH is bigger, stronger, more power, has fought against tougher competition. This fight will take place at a weight that PBF has never fought at. People have been saying that PBF has slowed at 147 what will his speed be at 154 or 152 cause I doubt he will weigh 154. This will be PBF's first major fight on this type of stage. DLH has the best beard between the two. DLH has 1 punch ko power which can end this fight immediately. DLH has more experience in fighting against speed slick fighters where PBF has does not have the experience against a guy that is multi talented like DLH. Last but not least PBF can't even wear the gloves that protects his hands the best.

    Now to answer the question of this thread. After reading the advantages that DLH has which can not be disputed one can say that DLH is supposed to win. Not only win but dominate. And after he wins the only thing we can say is that he was supposed to win. Why because. When has there ever been a big fight where the guy that was the underdog owned damn near all of the advantages on paper. Now if PBF wins then I'm sorry but it will be a major upset. I'll Holla 500
     
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    Much of it is because DLH has looked bad since the second Mosley fight, a fight I thought he clearly won, but both looked bad. Now, it is years later. DLH lost to Strum and quit against Hopkins and beat a bloated and beaten Mayorga. I think that is the thinking behind Floyd being favored.
     
  10. Double L

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    floyd's status as the favorite, imo, has more to do with his being vastly over-rated than with the perception of ODH.
     
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    Even though he hasn't looked good. On paper he still owns all of those advantages over PBF. This is what I think. I think that the media/odds makers are making PBF the favorite so that if DLH beats PBF it will perhaps make this victory bigger than what it is. When on paper DLH is supposed to win. I'll Holla 5000
     
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    Honestly, from what I have heard is Oscar fucked so many women he couldn't even remember what girls he fucked. The thing about Statutory rape is it is a STRICT liability crime, meaning if it occurred you are guilty. If you fuck a girl who is not of legally consenting age which varies from state to state, you are fucked, period, end of story. I am sure he probably tapped a few youngins and treated them badly. I am glad we have those laws on the books, but damn if it isn't hard to tell on occassion. My ex-girlfriend had a sister who looked like Hillary Duff and she had a double D rack when she was 15. I used to see 30-35 year old guys hitting on her when we were all out. I even told one dude, really nicely, look she is 15 and she turned 15 two weeks ago. He laughed but when he saw my expression he just turned a little flushed and left.
     
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    I am just stating the facts. I wasn't arguing it. I think the fight will be close.
     
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    I'm only stating the facts as well. I'll Holla 5000
     
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    Riiiiiiiiight, and Oscar not having a major win in half a decade is a coincidence, right? :lol:
     
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    ....and frauds last major win was when..?
     
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    Um, his last fight? Baldomir was the undisputed World Welterweight Champion. Baldomir and Judah are 10 times as good as Mayorga and .... who was the other guy??????
     
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    Yeah baldomir a major win, :rolleyes: you must have been in the crowd that night cheering him on After that fantastic performance.
     
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    how can people say Floyd will dominate Oscar and than turn around and not give Oscar for beaing Floyd? Floyd is suposed to win. Put aside the weight because I doubt Floyd will acually weight 154. he will be lighter specially come fight night.

    Everyone knows Floyd is PFP the best around and Oscar is past his prime. You have to really hate Oscar and go out of your way not to credit him if he beats Floyd.
     
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    First of all, the odds are posted according to how books thinkthe line will draw the most 2-way action, not necessarily who is better or will win. They expect all the small bets to be on Oscar and all of the large bets on Floyd.
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    Floyd is the favourite because he's a better fighter than Oscar De La Hoya in 2007. Forget domination... if Oscar wins legit, he gets HUGE credit.
     
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    ...yeah, as much as you can get by beating the best fighter in the world, 24 pounds over his best weight.
     
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    :lol: :lol: ,...Please,........... when it came to Baldomir, we were all prospecting over which top fighter he'd cash out against, however when it comes to Margarito for example, we are thinking down the line about future matchups, that's the difference in sentiments between a solid formidable fighter, and an incompetant obscure scrub as it were.
     
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    Pretty much...
    I think whoever wins, you have a big asterisk beside that victory - It's not exactlymeaningless but given that we don't know really how past prime Oscar is, where he fits in the present 154Ib division, and given Floyd's unimpressive stay at 140 and his one significant victory at 147, the whole inevitability in the last 2-3 yrs about this match-up arises solely from the commercial imperative - otherwise its a bit of a mess

    lol at bigdawg trying to build this up into a david vs. goliath II, like slystaff he's gonna build up De La Hoya and his fearsome left hook into a cross between SRR with Julian Jackson's power so that Mayweather's victory will be all that much more impressive...:rolleyes:
     
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    :nono: Uh uh uh uh uh Tam please,..he outgrew 130, and was apparently weight drained for his fight with Hernandez, and in recent times he's said "I can't make 135 anymore, and I ain't killin' myself to do it" in a boxingtalk chat as I recall, and yet we all know he's a gym-rat who looks after himself and prepares meticulously, so I'd say 14 lbs over his best weight is more realistic :nono: .
     
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    Rubio, you only know numbers, you have no sense. Mayorga would beat Baldomir. No doubt about it.
     
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  27. Double L

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    not to mention Mayorga would KO Judah too, and that Baldomir already DID beat Judah.

    and that neither Judah nor Baldomir have more than one meaningful win at 147.
     
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    i saw fear in PBF's eyes. he's done.
     
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    i'm not joking REED. i just hope for your sake you didn't lay any money on Floyd, because his O will go.
     

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