Interesting facts

It's Ironic that the two greatest fighters of the 80s, Hagler and Leonard beat the Fathers of the two greatest fighters of the 90s/00s, Jones and Mayweather.

 

yea they're friends. they used to train together in california before valero was banned from the US. i heard from a west coast scribe who were hanging out w/ them when they were in AC.

 

Ali was knocked out cold once in sparring. For like 15 minutes.

He was a kid and, in the gym they were talking about getting scooters. Ali was getting very excited about this, but he was up for sparring. The police officer who was his trainer back then was getting annoyed because Ali was fighting very strangely and seemed unfocused. Then he gets crushed and is out in the center of the ring.

After 15 minutes they finally revive him and his first words are, "So when are we going to get the scooters?"

 

khaosai galaxy suffered his lone defeat against sakda sksuree early in his career. he never avenged the loss, but his management somehow fixed the guy's name into his resume to make it look like he avenged the defeat by knocking the guy out in a rematch. the rematch never even took place.

this was later revealed and his official record has since been changed.

the ring magazine issued in 2002 rates Galaxy 43rd best fighter of past 80 years. there it states that he avenged his only loss. ::

 

A champion boxer that only had ONE LUNG.

The incredible Nel Tarleton. "Nella" as he was known locally was a product from The Triangle in his amateur days and went on to fight professionally for 20 years (1925-1945). Legend has it he was named after Admiral Lord Nelson and whereas the great sailor fought with only one eye "Nella" did so with only one lung following a battle with tuberculosis as a young boy, although this didn’t stop him becoming the first man to win two Lonsdale belts at featherweight.

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very true story in fact we were recalling that one on Friday after the Arreola fight

apparently Valero Ponce and Mike Anchondo (all signed to Golden Boy at the time) we drinking very heavily when Valero and Ponce both tried to pick up the same hooker. A fight ensued and Ponce knocked Valero out cold with one punch.

 

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You know, of course, that someone will try to use this as evidence as to how Wlad and/or Vitali would beat Ali.

 

:doh:

 

LOL and since that thread was locked for some reason

got damn the new ones look real!!!

 

Larry Holmes won a controversial decision over Carl "The Truth" Williams. After the fight Larry told Carl congratulations in his ear. After the decision Carl told Larry merry christmas but promised he would never tell what Larry told him.

 

according to Quick Tillis' autobiography, Tyson told him during a clinch at the end of the 10th round with his stinking breath 'you beat me'

 

good shitopcorn:

 

Since the great two fight run of a MAB stoppage, and a FOY level draw with JMM, this is deeper look into what he's done since then.

1. A 4th round stoppage of 3K Battery, who was coming into the fight having a draw with a fighter who's record was 9-8-1.

2. A UD loss to Eric Morales, who himself was coming into this fight having lost HIS last fight.

3. A 6th round stoppage of Hector Velazquez, who was coming off of wins over Trinidad Mendoza who had a 21-9-2 record, and another win over Guadalupe Hernandez who had a record of 1-6.[/color]

4. A 10th round stoppage of Eric Morales, who was coming off a UD loss to Zahir Raheem, which was Morales' 2nd loss in 3 fights, only beating Pac for his lone victory in that spell.

5. A UD victory over Oscar Larios, who SURPRISINGLY was coming off a 3rd round TKO loss to Israel Vazquez

6. A 3rd round KO of Eric Morales, which was the 3rd consecutive loss for Morales, and his 4th in 5 fights.

7. A 8th round KO of Jorge Solis, who was coming off a win over Fernando Omar Lizarraga with a record of 9-3, and win over the 6-1 Lizardo Moreno just before that.

 

Unless Del Valle fought another promoter too, your story is false. I remember reading that during a boxing show, a intoxicated Del Valle attacked the promoter of the show ( forgot the name but Im think it was indeed DeGuardia ). The promoter, who they said was a former golden gloves winner, gave better than he got but it was said that security stopped the fight very quickly with no real dammage on either side.

 

We're talking about the same guy...

I could be wrong. I wasn't there.

 

Hector Rocca smashed Teddy Atlas with a pipe at gleasons once.

Teddy responded the next day by smashing Rocca over the head with a bat, leaving him in a daze sitting on the sidewalk.


Rocca has never been very well liked by other trainers.

 

which is why i dont think that highly of pacquiao and dont rate him as high as others.

not to say that he's not a top notch fighter, but a loss in the near future certainly wouldnt come as a surprise. at least, not to me that is.

 

Floyd MW is 86'd from the Bellagio.
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BBS TEEN

 

Why?

 

dsimon writes:

I wish Joe Reine was here! I ask him "stoopid questions" :: and usually get a tidbit that could fit on this thread. I just am trying to remember specifically one or two that might belong:dunno:

Here is one: Joe fought dempsey as a mere kid :: Seriously Dempsey had a restaurant in midtown manhattan and Joe told me his old man took him in there to meet Dempsey... As a kid. So Dempsey plays it all cool like he is feeling him out, sitting there scowling. Joe gets the courage to sit down across from the champ... Dempsey suddenly yells "put up your dukes kid!!" they pantomine a little and Dempsey smiles and gives Joe a tussle.

It may not seem like much but memories like that are priceless, I wish I could take my kid to meet a guy like Ali and have the champ give him a tussle:dunno: i know it is infantile, guilty as charged.

 

yeah, I wish your version was true as I can't stand del Valle, but Azazel's sounds like the one that went down. It might've only been one or two punches each. I do know that del Valle was piss drunk (big fuckin' surprise) and mouthing off to Joe. They had bad history, at one point w/ Lou looking to sue him over double-dipping (DeGuardia collecting fees as both his manager and promoter).

 

Yeah, they were bickering at the time of the fight. Then, at a show, Del Valle's boy lost a decision and Del Valle went up to DeGuardia and started shouting that he fixed the fight. That made no sense since Del Valle's boy was DeGuardia's fighter.

What I heard was that DeGuardia was on the phone and Del Valle took a swing. DeGuardia ducked away, slipped his phone into his pocket and popped him on the chin. I found it ahrd to believe, but the more I got to know Del Valle recently, the more I can envision it. Del Valle likes to have fun with drinks and such.

 

yep, he's a drunken piece of shit. that's the long and short of it.

 

He was cool to me when we last met, and he's been taking an interest in training. I think he could actually do well with that.

Back to the topic at hand:

Allen Conyers, the guy who upset Derick Ennis on ShoBox on the undercard of Stark-Oliver, is Big Pun's nephew. Fat Joe used to manage him.


Gary Stark's dealings with Damon Dash extend back pretty far. He used to work as an assistant boxing trainer when he was a teenager and in the amateurs. The head trainer was some 40something year old dude who was a decent amateur and had a few pro fights I think. A bunch of the guys used to train there at Chelsea Piers. Dash, JayZ, etc...

The head trainer used to rag on Stark all the time. Saying that these new kids weren't any good and that they couldn't beat the old timers. He even said that he could whup Stark. This guy was like 150-160lbs. Star was probably about 108-112 at the time.

Finally, Stark got mad when he started ripping on him in front of all the guys, so he said, "fine, let's get in the ring and you could prove it." Stark beat the living hell out of him and they all went crazy watching.

That's what got Dash involved with Stark, and eventually got him involved in boxing all together.

 

Andrew Golota wasn't able to go to Poland for a while because he was wanted for beating the shit out of some guy and taking the guy's pants off, like he was going to rape him, while everyone in the bar was laughing and cheering him on.

Part of the reason Felix Sturm had such an easy time with Oscar de la Hoya is that he's naturally left handed, and he fought out of an orthodox stance. At the end of the fight, he turned southpaw, just like in Rocky II

The great heavyweight, Jack Dempsey, debuted at 140 pounds, and was at his best at 190. He often fought men as tall as 6'5" and as heavy as 250 pounds, or more, in both cases. Compare that to Floyd Mayweather starting at 130 and going up to fight one guy at 154, and realize while a bunch of old timers still call Dempsey one of the 10 best, pound-for-pound.

 

This isn't much of a fact, but I always found it interesting...

You know the story about Roberto Duran saying "No Mas" to Ray Leonard because he had to take a shit? Well, I always thought that someone as wild as Duran, who had no problem taking his pants down in front of married women with kids, would just do a number two in the spit bucket if he really had to go.

Ask an active fighter if he would do it, and he'll say never.

Ask a retired fighter if he would do it, and he won't hesitate to say yes.

 

bika and soliman are supposedly meeting (or have met since that fight already happened) in the semi finals of this season's contender series.

a little known fact, soliman handed bika his first professional loss when they fought several years ago.

nino benvenuti was unbeaten as an amateur and as a pro when he first won his world title. the first man to beat him? a korean southpaw (the first korean world champion ever) named Ki Soo Kim, the same guy benvenuti defeated in the olympics a few years prior to their meeting.

sven ottke defeated juan carlos gomez in amateurs

harry simon supposedly had an unbeaten record in amateurs

winky wright only lost like twice in amateurs

 

Former two-time flyweight title challenger Eugene Criqui had his jaw shattered by a sniper's bullet during World War I. His jaw was surgically repaired and he went on to fight with metal and plastic reinforcing his jaw for the rest of his career.