Is Barack Obama the perfect candidate?

petere, you have to be without question the worst salesman on the internet. everytime you try to convince people of your position, you end up alienating damn near everyone around you. you couldn't sell an icecold glass of lemonaide in a scorching hot desert...

 

huh? try speaking english next time chico...:nono:

mccain and obama are good guys...to refer to them as pieces of shit is absurd especially coming from a loser like you. ::

 

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You're the guy who cheated on your wife with an obese female (we think) poster from smacktalkbitching. :laughing:

 

Good to see politics bringing out the best in everyone. ::

 

Keep the racial stuff in Smacktalk, guys. :nono:

 

The only way I can see McCain winning is if Hillary is the nominee in the end. McCain is status quo. Boring, war monger, wants tax cuts for the rich, wants to stay in Iraq forever, and the only reason he's the Republican nominee is because there are no other strong candidates with strong support. He couldn't even beat Bush back in 2000. He won't beat Obama thats for sure. He'd get outshined BADLY in the debates.

 

Caligula's just mad because Bill Richardson had to drop out of the race. ::

 

I actually like the idea of Obama winning. After years of Bush, Bush Jr, and Slick Willie, why go back to the status quo? I like the idea that Obama wants to get the troops out. :clap: :clap: :clap:

 

That's what Democrats have to realize:

Hillary cannot beat mcCain in a General Election.

She can't fight him on the Iraq War, because she initially voted for it.

She's not likable and because of this the fact that she's a woman would be more an more apparent and work against her. She wont attract independents (they'd all go to mcCain) and Independents are the tie breakers. She'd also lose some Obama supporters.

Obama, however, would maintain all of teh Clinton supporters and would pull both independents and "disillusioned Republicans". Also Obama is very likable and impressive and as such the fact that his "African American" would be less and less important (to the White Electorate) as the race (no pun intended) goes on.

Take heed onto the words of The Sly One!

 

Ok fair enough he didn't vote, per se, but he spoke out against it at a time when the war was a popular concept.

 

Ok, correct me if I'm wrong, but if the country already has troops in the war...the decision has already been made...US troops are there and in danger and the talk is that there may be WMDs...isn't "funding the war" the responsible thing to do at that time?

 

You support a maniac like Ron Paul ::

 

They were funding the troops, not the war.

 

as he given a date to take the troops out...or he just saying what people want to hear.....as he gotten into specifics about any issue???



other than he will bomb Pakistan....if he most...:dunno:

 

lets see if you can do better than obama's texas friend, name me one legislative accomplishment of obama's, something that has his name on it

 

Illum:
He's said he'd get them out by or in 2009.

 

The Coburn-Obama Act that created a federal database of government spending. Here's a complete list if you really want to know...

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/21/164117/783?new=true

 

Obama the perfect candidate? Are you kidding me?

I still can't believe that some of you actually think Obama will get us out of Iraq. C'mon.

We all know that taxes will be higher under Obama, that can not even be debated.

Universal Healthcare will bankrupt the country and lead to poorer care of the sick. When your friends and relatives start dying because they couldn't get the care they needed in time, you'll understand. But by then, it will be too late.

Can at least one one Obama supporter explain to me why Obama's Global Tax is good for this country? Can one of you guys who are always spouting off buzzwords like 'hope' and 'change' please explain how this country, who's economy is already in the shitter, being forced to come up with another $835 Billion dollars, in addition to what we already contribute, to be used at the discretion of the U.N., is good for the people of this country?

I'm already sure none of Obama's supporters will be able to explain how Obama's idea is beneficial, but I'm sure they'll keep talking about 'hope' and 'change'.

Who needs common sense when you have nifty buzzwords?

TFK

 

You sound like that idiot Bush.

He was asked a specific question:

"if you had actionable intelligence about an Al Qaeda stronghold in pakistan (Bin Laden present) and the Pakistan government wasn't going to do anything about it would you move in to get him"

The only responsible thing for a US commander in chief to do with that information is to move in. Bush would do it, McCain would do it EVERY US PRESIDENT would do it.

So stop being a moron.

Also Obama clearly gave a timeline for withdrawal, 18 months I believe, but obviously carefully done with much preparation and understanding of all the ramifications etc.

 

OK, there was 1 response from an Obama supporter that chose to ignore my question about Obama's Global Tax. Let's count how many times that happens before one of them can answer it.

TFK

 

thats like saying without lettuce there is no salad.

Rather than, if you don't put the salad together, there is no salad.

 

OK..you tell me what McCain stands for except the following:

"Radical Islam is the trans....threat of the 21st century and I'm the only one equipped to deal with it because I supported the Surge strategy that is working"

"I was a foot soldier in the Reagan Revolution"

"My friends.....My friends.....My friends.....My friends.....My friends.....My friends.....My friends.....My friends.....My friends.....My friends.....My friends.....My friends....."

 

There is a difference.

What the Dems tried adding to the bill was a withdrawal, but it was vetoed.

You can't not fund the troops. They need arms to defend themselves while they're still out there. They need food. They need to upgrade their basic needs for survival. If you deny them that, then you're REALLY putting them at risk.

 

Nice way to dodge the question. Why can't you answer it?

My opinion on McCain is irrelavant, since this topic isn't about McCain, and I'm not supporting McCain anyway. If you want me to discuss why I don't like McCain, start a thread about it, and I'll be happy to do so.

But before you do, quit hiding from the question and tell me how Obama's Global Tax is beneficial to Americans.

TFK