Is Barack Obama the perfect candidate?

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  1. PetreTG

    PetreTG WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Out of Iraq and into Pakistan :clap:

    :doh:
     
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    there is no such thing that's why TFK will wait forever for a response.
     
  3. PetreTG

    PetreTG WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Obama is going to encourage them to come to this country with amnesty , social security benefits we can't afford for our own people and college from funds borrowed from the chinese til we're bankrupt and the chinese cuts off our money supply and starts a new war that we can't win. This will of course also bring all the riff raff from Mexico looking to get a free lunch and with new gun laws in place against law abiding citizens , an easy target. As food shortages grow the problem will grow exponentially from the flood of illegals crossing the boarder en masse looking for an easier life and we'll have the Cuban refugee crisis on steroids while we're still fighting wars on foreign soil. Oh ... and let's not forget he want's to add a tax to American's paid directly to the UN to aid other countries as if we don't already give enough aid abroad.

    So , will you vote for him?
     
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    It's not a buzzword, it's true.
     
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    Some Key points from that article:

    A release from the Obama Senate [COLOR=blue! important][COLOR=blue! important]office[/COLOR][/COLOR] about the bill declares, “In 2000, the U.S. joined more than 180 countries at the [COLOR=blue! important][COLOR=blue! important]United [COLOR=blue! important]Nations[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] Millennium Summit and vowed to reduce global poverty by 2015. We are halfway towards this deadline, and it is time the United States makes it a priority of our foreign policy to meet this goal and help those who are struggling day to day.â€

    The U.N. says that “The commitment to provide 0.7% of gross national product (GNP) as official development assistance was first made 35 years ago in a General Assembly resolution, but it has been reaffirmed repeatedly over the years, including at the 2002 global [COLOR=blue! important][COLOR=blue! important]Financing[/COLOR][/COLOR] for Development conference in Monterrey, Mexico. However, in 2004, total aid from the industrialized countries totaled just $78.6 billion—or about 0.25% of their collective GNP.â€

    So Obama is committing to something we committed to 35 years ago....OMG!!1!!:eeeek:

    Jeffrey Sachs, who runs the U.N.’s “Millennium Project,†says that the U.N. plan to force the U.S. to pay 0.7 percent of GNP in increased foreign aid spending would add $65 billion a year to what the U.S. already spends. Over a 13-year period, from 2002, when the U.N.’s Financing for Development conference was held, to the target year of 2015, when the U.S. is expected to meet the “Millennium Development Goals,†this amounts to $845 billion. And the only way to raise that kind of money, Sachs has written, is through a global tax, preferably on carbon-emitting fossil fuels

    How does Jeffery Sachs writting something about a global tax equate to Obama wanting one?
     
  7. Arben

    Arben "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Fear Mongerer

    :doh:
     
  8. slystaff

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    LOL @ the people that try to denigrate the importance of inspiration and hope because of their own agenda.

    One of the key factors that made Winston Churchill Great was his ability to inpire.

    Same with:

    Martin Luther King
    FDR
    Kennedy (Bobby and John)
    Gandi
    etc


    Very few people have this gift and when they do, they are able to effect change.

    Obama has the ability, unlike Hillary (and McCain to a lesser extent) to inspire people to get involved, engaged and not just the mainstream electorate but also senior Republican Party leaders and rival politicians.

    As president he'd be able to accomplish far more by bringing the country together than either of his two rivals.

    Secondly...and this hasn't been mentioned before

    Black crime in the US will DRAMATICALLY reduce if and when Obama is president. You heard it first here.

    Why?

    African American self esteme will rise dramatically, young black youth in the states would have a new role model. hell I'm already seeing reports of young black kids saying they weant to be president when they're older.

    He will usher in a Golden Age in American politics and society and help bridge the differences between the races.

    People like Farrakhan would have less to complain about now that America has elected one of his own.

    Think about it.

    Look at the bigger picture....:cool:
     
  9. TFK

    TFK WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Not a buzzword? Give me a break.

    So the billions and billions of dollars we already give in aid to other countries isn't enough for diplomacy? Don't give me that crap.

    And with this plan, we don't even have a say in where the money goes. Our money can be used to aid our enemies, and there would be nothing we can do about it.

    Think about it. This money is gonna have to come from somewhere, and it will come in the form of taxes. If Obama attempts Universal Healthcare, where is that money gonna come from? More taxes (and worse service).

    How can you support someone who supports a Global Tax that does nothing but hurt the American people?

    TFK
     
  10. TFK

    TFK WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Yeah...no such thing.

    TFK
     
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    Oh boy! Inspiration!

    People are gonna need a lot of it to when they're broke after Obama runs the country into the ground. A global tax, bankrupting the country with Universal Healthcare, amnesty for illegal immigrants...yeah, that's real inspiring.

    Like I said, Obama is nothing but buzzwords. If you take a close look, you'll realize he'll ruin this country.

    TFK
     
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    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    He can't do any worse than Bush already did and he sure can't do worse than McCain would.
     
  13. Arben

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    SO do you think we don't need diplomacy these days?
     
  14. slystaff

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    Truthfully, even if you agreed with all of his policies you'd criticize him.

    Universal Healthcare isn't bankrupting shit...endless war in Iraq would do that. What's amnesty going to do? There are conditions and they wont get any special treatment and will go to the back of the line. Perhaps you should investigate his policy on this matter before you make wild statements.

    Give me a link to this so called "global tax" that you're talking about and let me see his exact position on this...
     
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    Where is this coming from? I haven't found anything stating Obama wants a Global Tax??
     
  16. Arben

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    Meanwhile, the war in Iraq, could pay for the universal healthcare of AT LEAST five USAs.
     
  17. slystaff

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    Exactly!

    These Neo-Cons are amusing.
     
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    your missing the point
     
  19. slystaff

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    The point is Universal healthcare will supposedly bankrupt the US...well what about the war?
     
  20. TFK

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    Oh yes he can.

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  21. TFK

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    Of course we need diplomacy, but at what expense?

    Why don't you consider the large amount of money and aid we give to other countries already 'diplomacy'? We give a ton of money to other countries. Now we're gonna be forced to give more, when our economy is tanking, and we'll have no say in how it's spent?

    How is this a good idea again?

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    McCain keeping us in Iraq for 100 years would definitely go a long way into leading this economy down the drain.
     
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    Why would I criticize him if I agreed with his policies? That doesn't make any sense at all.

    And funny you bring up the war, since no matter what you might want to believe, we're not leaving Iraq anytime soon, no matter who wins the election. I'd say we're more likely to go to war with Iran or Syria or another country in the Middle East then we are to pull out of Iraq.

    So with all the money being spent on the war, you don't think Universal Healthcare is gonna be a bane on our economy? That's wishful thinking.

    Besides, do you really want the Government handling your health care? Do you really want the same government who acted during Hurricane Katrina to be the ones pulling the strings when you need immediate care?

    One thing that can't be argued is, the quality of care is gonna plummet if we have a Universal Healthcare plan.

    And if you can ask 'What's amnesty gonna do?' in regards to immigration, then I'm not even gonna get into that with you, since we obviously have entirely different opinions on the effects of illegal immigration. But if you think amnesty won't have a negative effect, you better do some research.

    And for info on the Global Tax, just google 'Obama global tax' and you'll find a ton of info.

    TFK
     
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    I can't find anything. :dunno:

    All I've found are quotes are from some other guy talking about a global tax but nothing from Obama saying anything about it.

    So if you're still waiting for someone to justify voting for Obama because of the "global tax", just show me where he proposed it
     
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    http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/02/the_global_candidate_proposes.html
     
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    http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas-global-tax-proposal-up-for-senate-vote/

    The first sentence starts off...


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