You can be called a "champ" without ever beating a champ. Does name Quitaly mean anything to you, LOK?
Ruiz is a better fighter than Wlad I'd rather be a guy that looks terrible and sloppy but beats legends.. (Holy) than a guy that LOOKS like he should be dominant, young, strong, fast, and gets KO'd by bums and beat by middleweights (Bryd)
I agree the titles are cheapened, but he's accomplished way more than Grant. Grant suffered devasating knockouts and fell off the map. Klistchko suffered devastating knockouts and rebuilt his career and become a champion for the second time. Grant's legacy is creating the myth that was Dominick Guinn as much as anything else.
:bears: ok.. maybe when I said Wlad is a "BUM" it's a lil harsh.. but LEGEND??? :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
Vitali never fought any former pro middles. Now answer the question.....what former heavyweight "champion" lost his WBA heavyweight title to two different, former IBF Middlweight titlists???
Yes. Ruiz is a two-time world champion with multiple title defences. He also beat a few world champions, unlike, say, Vitaly.
After he lost to Jones, who did he lose to to become a multiple champ???:laughing: :laughing: The only multiple Ruiz has is Sclerosis Of The Balls.
Vitalis opposition was always a cut above Rahman and Rahman-esque type fighters:nono: So the answer to that is a FAT ZERO. Like the number of rounds Johnny boy won against Jones. Come on, I've given you a hint. Jones was the first, who was the second. And, for bonus points, which large lumbering moron beat Ruiz in Germany??
Oh, really? Is that why the biggest name on Vitaly's resume is Corrie Sanders, a guy Rahman defeated?
Wifebeating is counted??? Thats not fair, Wlad isn't even married. Come on now.....:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
Why do you keep going on about this, dymipepel? Ok, you want the Klitschkos dead! That's fine. Just let it be. ::
A large bunch of the american fans on this board are scared sh*tless of the Klitschkos taking over the division. :laughing: You know it's gonna happen. Just accept it and move on. The titles now belong to the Euros. The Americans are pretty much dead in this division.
I just want to find out who has defeated a better level of opponents, Vitaly or Ruiz. A statement has been made in this thread that Vitaly's resume contains fighter far superior to Rahman. I would like to know who those are. By name.Maybe you could you name them, because Ortho obviously can't?
Yes, thanks for the link. So, could you explain to me how Corrie Sanders is far superior to Haseem Rahman?