It looks like Hatton IS IN FACT ducking Witter!

I wanna see Witter fight Floyd if he thinks hes so bad

Floyd would have him bussing tables in germany so fast!!!

 

Exactly right, Hatton has always felt that Witter was too big of a risk for the reward....and even now that Junior has a belt, he still feels that way.

 

Great post.

 

no way hatton avoids this dishwasher cuz he's scared

 

If you actually mean that, youre retarded.

No matter what your "professional opinion" of Witter is as a boxer,...you can't question that he is one of the best fighters in the division.

He owns a legit belt, and only one loss seven years ago.

And Hatton is in the same fucking country.

 

Uh... yes I can..

I question everything.. I'm not like you who sits around waiting for the toothfairy and santa..

or runs after rainbows to try and find gold. do you like them cuz of the rainbow colors are so pretty?? hmm... that's suspicious

 

WTF are you even talking about?:dunno:

The topic is, is Hatton avoiding Jr. Witter.

You called Witter a dishwasher? And then proceeded to talk about rainbows and the toothfairy.

Are you to be taken seriously?:dunno:

 

You may be strictly correct, but I understand the point he was trying to make...

...In boxing parlance, 'ducking' generally tends to mean something like 'avoiding a fight with because he is scared of'. This obviously differs from plainly 'avoiding' someone for another reasons, such as a desire not to give a hated rival a payday, for example.

The bottom line is that Hatton HATES Junior Witter so much that he doesn't want to fight him to prevent Witter getting his payday.

The best thing Witter could do is to fight Paulie in NYC, knock him out and trap Hatton into fighting him. If Witter takes out the only other big Hatton oppo at 140, then Hatton has to fight him or he really will look like he is afraid of him.

Failing this, the fight will never hate him. Hatton hates him that much.

And to suggest Hatton is scared of Junior Witter having fought Tszyu, Castillo and Mayweather is faintly ridiculous... :nono:

MTF

 

:laughing:

LOK thinks Calzaghe is a dishwasher too...

 

One of the best two, alongside Hatton in fact (Paulie is probably third)

The problem is, no one knows who he is. Not even in England.

I know it's easy to think that Hatton v Witter would be HUGE in England, but that isn't necessarily the case. Witter's fight against Harris was in front of a few thousand in a leisure centre- he isn't exactly packing them in even though he is the champion (though how much of this is down to poor promotion is anyone's guess).

You have to appreciate this before you see why Hatton doesn't want to fight him. Witter has been slating Hatton for YEARS, and all so he can fight him and get the big payday his promotoer can't get for him any other way. Hatton knows this, and would rather not grant him his wish.

Even though Witter is a legit champion (and the #1 challenger to Hatton at 140 IMO), he is not a name: either here or in the US.

 

Explosivo..

I am hardly to be takin seriously..

truth be told, I was pretty much Sloshed when I posted this::

Big up's baby

 

White.

 

:dunno:

Are you sloshed now?

 

Witter NEEDS to fight Torres. He needs to have a claim to two of the belts at 140. He gets two belts he can call Hatton out on every show he can get on especially local shows in England. With that validity to his statements the people of England will wonder why Hatton won't fight him. Because it is looking more and more like he's ducking Witter.

 

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Very interesting take. I have always been under the impression that Hatton Witter would be HUGE in England. HUGE.

And any Witter fights not drawing that well, I would just dismiss as everyone waiting for him to fight Hatton. But you are saying he isn't that well known in the UK? I find this very hard to believe.

It's going to take more than one opinion to change my ingrained views, but at least you have me reconsidering. Too bad we don't have more Brits around here.

 

mikE- youtube Witter's last fight against Vivian: it is like something out of the late 80's. Champ he may be, but he's lucky to get more than a couple of thousand in for his fights.

Last two times out- Hatton had 10,000 travel the Atlantic to watch him rumble.

It is VERY important to appreciate this when considering why Hatton does not want to pay Witter off. Witter brings absolutely zip to the table bar the WBC belt.

To compensate, Witter should challenge and beat Paulie, then corner Hatton. This leaves Hatton with no choice but to fight Witter.

With the right promotion, Hatton - Witter would be BIG in England. But, I reiterate, the casual fan in England has NEVER heard nor seen Junior Witter.

In the US, most fight fans have seen him once: running from Zab.

And people wonder why Ricky wants nothing to do with? :dunno:

MTF

 

I have quite a few Brit friends. Now I am not a Brit and don't claim to know shit about scene over there, but from what my friends tell me, Witter is known. The problem is there is so much support for Hatton. Hatton has publicly expressed his dislike for Witter. Therefore the sheep just believe whatever their idol says. What all of them have told me is Witter needs to be in a position to call Ricky out in front of his groupies and not let Ricky have any excuses. "I don't want him to earn a penny off me" just won't cut it if Witter holds more belts at 140 then Ricky:nono:

 

Are your friends boxing fans?

Don't get me wrong- the boxing public know Junior, but the general public, by and large, do not...

With good promotion (Hennassey? :: ), this fight would be BIG, but it is not the SUPERFIGHT some automatically think...

 

Yeah, they are boxing fans, guess that might mean something to them knowing him::

 

Witter is actually known to many people over here. He used to always fight on Hattons undercards and was the pantomime villan. Then he had a few fights on TERRESTRIAL TELEVISION, which hatton hasn't done and they were good KO's.

Junior is definately known and now has the WBC belt which has made it a bit better. He clearly has nothing like the fanbase Hatton has, but is known and it would be a MEGA fight over here, possibly outselling Hatton vs Floyd and selling out a stadium easily.

 

Witter does need to collect another belt to strengthen his position in the division though.

 

Hatton's fanbase comes predominantely from his fight with Tszyu, which was shown live on ITV1 (terrestrial TV). :doh:

When the hell was the last time Witter fought on terrestrial TV? His fight with Harris was on a Friday Fight Night on Sky Sports, certainly...

Junior is NOT known, at all, to anyone bar the boxing fan, either in the US or the UK.

In the US, he is mainly known for running from Zab for 12 rounds. I agree that this is the WRONG perception, but nonetheless, this is what he is known for.

In the UK, he is known, if at all, for being the whingy guy who bad-mouths Hatton. That's it. Ask anyone on the street if they know who Junior Witter is, Attraction, and see what responses you get.

Disagree

It would be a BIG fight, no doubt, but it wouldn't be a MEGA fight (ala Mayweather) and the size of the fight would have NOTHING whatsoever to do with Witter and everything to do with Hatton.

Junior's last fight was in a leisure centre; Hatton's was in the MGM Grand.

HATTON would sell a stadium here in the UK, no doubt, but he would do so whoever he fought. In this regard, Witter brings absolutely zero to the table, except his title belt.

 

Witter needs to do two things:

1. Fight Maglinaggi. If he beats Paulie he can then corner Hatton, as he will have taken the only other legitimate fight at 140 for Ricky out of the equation.

2. Get a decent promoter. Mick Hennessey is absolutely useless, and should be shunted ASAP. Witter, at this stage of his career, should be fighting in stadia or in the US against name players, not running around Leisure Centres in the Midlands fighting old guys for no money and with no real TV exposure.

Once he does this, he'll be in better shape.

 

1. hatton vs tszyu wasnt live on itv.
2. junior had several fights on the BBC after he left warren. do your research before you make comments
3. no junior is indeed known as a world champion. believe me i work in a club and talk to the general public all the time and there was a lot of talk abotu witter when last week when hatton was fighting mayweather. people actually DO know who he is, nowhere near as many as Hatton but not NONE as you say.
4. it would be a MEGA fight, it really would. Look at the boxrec british forum, look at any british forum and see the countless threads on it over the past few weeks. think of the marketing. it would catch on bigtime.

 

1. My apologies- the Warren/ITV deal was just after this fight: my memory must have recalled the replay that ITV showed. The point is the same, though. ITV and Warren signed a deal straight after that fight and Hatton got MAJOR publicity just before he fucked Warren left. Same as Calzaghe when his fight with Lacy was shown on ITV.

2. This was a genuine question. When was the last time Witter was shown on terrestrial TV?

3. Of course there was talk of Witter last week- Hatton was fighting. Whenever Hatton fights, Witter piles in and makes his voice heard. This is EXACTLY why Hatton can't stand him!!

4. You have made my point, Attraction. Of course boxrec and other forums are abuzz with talk of a Witter-Hatton fight. I would LOVE to see that fight: for me it would be HUGE. But I am a boxing enthusiast, just like all of those talking about it on the forums. But to be HUGE, this fight would have to capture the imagination of the general public in the UK, Europe and the US. Witter isn't enough to do this.

Are you seriously telling me that Witter has been marketed well?

 

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