Its Official: Mayweather-Mosley May 1 MGM Grand

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  1. Hex-One

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    Excellent! WAR PBF!!!!!!
     
  2. Hex-One

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    How the fuck so? Mosley is the Welterweight champion of the world. You act as though hes a bum. Mosley is a proven world champion that knocked out Margarito (in his last fight) who has never been kod.
     
  3. Outlander

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    I can't believe people are persisting in their refusal to form an opinion because some of the things Manny has said or done are not "outside the realm of possibility" in terms of being true or innocent. As always, I come with only one demand, and insist simply that everyone form an opinion.

    I agree that virtually nothing is outside the realm of possibility. This is not reason to refuse to decide what you think is going on. You either think it's more likely that Manny DOES use PEDs, or it's more likely that he DOESN'T. If you believe the former, then by all means, talk about how he has the right to refuse the random testing, etc., as even the guilty have rights. If you believe the latter, then STOP talking about how he has the right to refuse the testing and how it was unprecedented and how he follows the rules and START talking about what reasons lead you to believe he does not use PEDs. I am truly interested in that perspective, especially in light of his adamant refusal to be accurately tested for them (spare me the "he passed the urine tests", so did Mosley and countless others).

    As for Floyd, he was indeed backed into a corner after the Pac debacle, and so he did what he probably would not otherwise have done and signed to fight a real welter. But he did more than that. He kept his demands for random Olympic-style PED testing (at least according to Brian Kenney and Dan Rafael on FNF). So whether by force or by his own volition, Floyd has now made his "he never fights a true welter" detractors shut up (and I was one of those), and he also made all the "why is Floyd only asking this one opponent, Pacquiao to take this testing?" people shut up.

    Further, in light of the fact that Shane Mosley, someone who according to the people here SHOULD be looked upon as a cheat or a shady dealer in athletics AGREED to this testing... please tell me why someone untainted like "Pac" would refuse? Wouldn't the intended cheat be the one who would ferociously FIGHT such a demand?? How odd. Up until now we were told this was "unprecedented" and so did not know what to expect.. but I guess now we know what a true fighter does when confronted with a demand like this. Or better said, a true fighter who does not intend to use PEDs.

    Given the way the work "ducked" is thrown around the forum, and is often used in cases where someone refuses to take a certain split, or refuses to fight out of their home country, or refuses a certain ring size, or glove size, or a certain date, or refuses to fight due to natural disasters.... PLEASE tell me how it is illegitimate now to say Manny Pac DUCKED Floyd Mayweather by refusing the testing? And try to do it with a straight face.
     
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    By the way, I think Floyd safely boxes to a solid decision against an attacking Mosley. But Shane certainly has a real chance to land something meaningful which could change the fight. Also, given how well Mayweather has put on weight to get to 147, I don't think there is a big size advantage for Shane.

    So I have to pick Floyd, but I will be rooting for Shane even it it wrecks Pac/Floyd forever since I like Shane far more than Floyd.
     
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    Fantastic. Splendid. Brilliant. Awesome. Wonderful. Fabulous. Tremendous. Great.

    THIS is the fight I've been waiting for for a decade. Better late than never.


    Mayweather by late KO in the most impressive win of his career by far. It'll be a thriller and will be the fight in which Mayweather displays all of his talent!
     
  7. Fighter

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    Here is hoping there aren't any POSTPONEMENTS.

    And there shouldn't be any EXCUSES like Mosley was old, or that testing was intrusive in his training, or that Mayweather was rusty or that the fight is 10 years too late.

    Putting aside claims that Mayweather ducked Pacquaio or any other legitimate true welter. Putting aside Mosley has admitted to using performance enhancers in the past. These guys are the best matchup in the welterweight division not including the Superstar Pacquaio.

    Who ever wins DESERVES to fight the winner of Pacquaio-Clottey, which is well on it's way to being soldout and having Dallas Stadium's capacity increased to 50,000, in a mega showdown in the fall.

    Mayweather-Mosley is the BEGINNING. Hopefully we can now concentrate on hearing the bell in the RING to see who the best fighter of the world p4p and the best welter in the world BEFORE the end of the year 2010.
     
  8. slystaff

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    Ya got it all wrong dude....

    Who ever win Pacquiao-Clottey DESERVES to fight the winner of Mayweather-Mosley.

    Have no doubts about who is going to be the biggest name after the conclusion of these two fights. The winner of May-Mos...will be the guy to fight.
     
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    I've just read Mayweather included a REMATCH clause but hopefully there will be a time period in which to do it that will allow Mosley, if he wins, to go directly to fight the current best fighter p4p in the world, Pacquaio. Or that the reamatch be fought in the shortest possible time, like 4.5 months after May 1st.

    Or else it will be 2011 until the winners meet. Possibly we will see different versions of the fighters of today.
     
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    I could care less what the billboards say. I don't have to negotiate purse splits. As long as they fight in the RING, I'm all for it.
     
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    "There aint gonna be no rematch"

    Mosley retires after this fight. Mayweather goes on to beat Pac and then retire...
     
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    How ya' doing there, horsey?
     
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    Personally as an observer, I will be happy with WHOEVER wins. Mosley will try to make it an entertaining swim and getting wet type of fight.

    Mosley and Mayweather shouldn't retire. We should see Pacquaio-Mosley, Pacquaio-Mayweather AND a Mayweather-Mosley rematch if the fight is not too lopsided.:dunno:
     
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    What would this place do without the two leading PBF experts, sly and dymi?
     
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    I've got a pretty clear cut opinion - Manny is innocent until proven guilty, and refusing the tests isn't an admission of guilty.

    I don't know if he is actually taking PEDs or not, and neither do you.
     
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    Also I don't know if you've noticed, but Manny is kind of the "it" fighter right now. He simply has more power at a bargaining table than Shane has.

    Do you think Shane is splitting the purse 50/50 with Floyd too?
     
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    PBF will make this fight look easy. Mosley is not even top-5 P4P (he's around 8-th or 9-th place there), and PBF shines against such an easy opposition.
     
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    This is a no-win fight for Floyd. If he beats Mosley, so what, he beat a guy with 4 or 5 losses. So what. If he loses to Mosley, its an even bigger whammy. This is a no win fight.
     
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    You gotta admit this fight is a step up for the L4L best in the world.
     
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    It is riddled with dissatisfying aspects left-right-and-centre.

    If Shane wins, the de facto pfp #1 is a former steroid abuser.:eek:ld:
     
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    Pacquiao is the best fighter in the world, pound for pound.

    But yes, it is a step up for the second best fighter in the world.
     
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    For Pacquaio, it is people stepping up to HIM. He was recently voted Fighter of the day, week, month, year, decade, century, ever by EVERY ONE and their brother.

    Top trainers voting him top 5 best of ALL TIME. Pacquaio is no doubt, the HOTTEST commodity in boxing today.
     
  23. TKO

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    That was what we call over here a 'smart alec' comment. :lol:
     
  24. dymipepel

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    So, in his previous fight, Mayweather absolutely demolished Marques, a guy who gave Manny hell and is arguably 2-0 against the Pac-man. In his next fight, Mayweather is taking on Mosley, a guy who's miles above Clottey.....Wow.....
    Is Pacquio ever going to step up?
     
  25. TKO

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    You know what, you are totally right. Pac is a bitch he should be calling out the Ghost.
     
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    i think mayweather jr is making more money for his next fight than pacquiao is
     
  28. TKO

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    Yeah him to. :bears:
     
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    Too bad the paying public isn't aware of that, and buys Mayweather fights much mroe readily than those of Pac.
     
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    Yep, he's fighting a better, much more famous opponent.
     

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