Its that time again.... Mythical Mismatch Matchups!

this thread should be closed

 

That's why you are not a mod.

 

Why the hell are you a mod? Every act of moderation you make is one of self-aggrandizement.

 

My favorite mythical mismatchup of all-time was when someone came up with Hearns vs. Gatti...particularly at 154. :: :: ::

 

.................and in 2009.

 

Lewis vs. Golata II
Holyfield vs. Golata
any decent heavy vs. Golata

 

golota vs. quarry

golota vs. patterson

 

Patterson would knock out Golota, and Quarry would outbox him, and maybe knock him out. Quarry beat Lyle and Shavers, who were big heavyweights who weren't nutjobs.

 

:laughing: :: :laughing: ::

 

How the hell could brain-dead Golota beat Quarry when Shavers and Lyle couldn't? :dunno:

 

Golota would find a way to lose like he always does.

Golota is quite possibly the biggest choker in boxing history.

 

I would be very surprised if Double has seen enough Quarry fights to properly assess his chances against Golata, much less consider it a mismatch.

 

OMG! Could you IMAGINE how awful that would be for Gatti?

 

Prime Roy Jones vs Pavlik. ::

 

It would be awful but over so fast that it wouldn't really matter. If Tommy was a lighter puncher I think it would be worse.

 

I posted this one at maxboxing and picked Tua. I wrote that Tua would easily slip past Larry's jabs and knock him out within 4 rounds.

A bunch of posters took me seriously and were arguing about it. ::

 

Muhammad Ali- Joe Louis is a styles MISMATCH!

Picture how much trouble the slow plodding Louis had catching up to Billy Conn and then picture the lightening fast Ali of the Liston, Terrell, Williams fights who was bigger stronger and could maintain that for 15 rounds.

One-sided slaughter!

 

Then watch Doug Jones or Karl Mildenberger hurting Ali and pushing him back and it doesn't look very onesided at all anymore (I'd pick Ali though)

 

Gatti is tough, so he might take one or two shots, but he's such a catcher that he'd get hurt pretty bad. My guess is he makes it to the 2 minute mark after 3 knockdowns, and then he goes out facefirst!

 

That's hard to believe. It's not often a boxing thread has more than 25 responses. ::



(are you reading Notorious E.A.N.E.R.? :tease: )

 

I doubt he's seen any Quarry fights. Double L's completely incompetent when it comes to picking fights.

Louis fought nothing like Jones or Mildenberger. Jones was a slick light heavyweight, and Mildenberger was a southpaw. :doh:

 

Just pointing out that Ali didn't always look like the killer he was against London, Williams or Terrel.

Besides, I don't think it was Mildenberger's southpaw stance that troubled Ali, Mildenberger was just fairly quick and had good techniques

 

Ugh. This is still a poor argument. Louis didn't have that kind of speed, except maaaaaaybe in his pre-title days.

 

Wow...are you serious?

Maybe "mismatch" is too strong - but if Ouma and Wright and Spinks, all significantly smaller, lighter punching, less offensively skilled, with much less power could push Taylor back, fluster him, and basically fight evenly and/or arguably beat him in certain cases....

What do you think Hagler would do?

Hagler would not be a 42-yr-old Hopkins who had to measure and conserve his punch output until the late rounds and barely threw punches...and even then was STILL able to arguably beat Taylor.

Marvin had no problem against taller opponents...matter of fact, it tended to work to his advantage.

There is almost no category I can think of where Taylor holds an advantage over Hagler...except for height/reach and in Taylor's case those are easily nullified.

Look how easily Pavlik - and hell, JOPPY for the first 4 rounds - were able to take away and disrupt Jermain's jab.

I think Taylor is a quality fighter; and I don't rag on him like many do. I do somewhat buy into the fact that he fought Hops twice, Wright, and some opponents that could make fighters look a bit worse than normal, etc.

But Hagler-Taylor is a clear, clear win for Marvin - either stoppage or wide decision - and I really can't see it otherwise at all.

Peace.

 

agREED. Taylor is a good fighter, but Hagler was one of the best ever at middleweight and was significantly better than Taylor. Taylor's only advantages would be height and reach, but Hagler proved able to handle taller fighters during his career.

I don't see it going past 6 or maybe 7 rounds. I just see Taylor wide open to be hit and Hagler taking him apart.

 

i've seen plenty of Quarry fights. and he wouldn't beat Golota. live with it.

 

ridiculous.

Even if you think Hagler would win clearly (which I agree with) a fight between two guys at this level would not be a mismatch. It is possible that Hagler fights stupid (which he often did) and Taylor wins rounds to the point of it being close.

I mean, if Sugar Ray Seales could outbox him, imagine what Jermaine Taylor would do

jermaine taylor gets some serious hatred around here despite his resume and accomplishments, and its an insult to throw out this bullshit about him not having a chance against Hagler.

You want a mismatch involving Hagler?...then talk to me about Hagler vs. Joppy, or Hagler vs. Robert allen.

 

Ummm...Hagler fought Seales twice in the second year of his career and still went 1-0-1 against him then. When Hagler was in his prime (shortly before he won the title), he took out Seales in the first round.

And it's a credit to Hagler that he fought good fighters early on in his career...he wasn't protected like Taylor (whose pre-title opposition was carefully handpicked).

 

joppy at one point was a good middleweight. he would've given hagler problems with angles but eventually lose.

 

Hagler was nowhere as slow or as one-dimensional as some folks want to make him out to be and Joppy was nothing special. Hagler would bust up and stop Joppy.