Jermain Taylor moving up to 168 after he fights Pavlik

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  1. Father of Muzse

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    Jermain Taylor has absolutely no in0fighting ability. He's got to hold the hell out of Pavlik when Pavlik gets inside.

    Taylor will hold like Travis Simms.
     
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    What´s wrong with Juan Diaz? Pavel-Lick might be a Czech pornstar, but Pavlik is an American fighter. Besides boxing will be fine, just more international.
     
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    well please stop using unathletic, because thats the wrong term, nfl line backers sometimes arent the most agile, but they arent unathletic
     
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    agREED! Winky just walked him down, that is all he did. Walk him down firing jabs and straight lefts. Jermain had no answer for it, and IMO lost the fight clearly. Not only will Pavlik use a similar stategy, he will hurt Taylor in the process. Pavlik has got to be the hardest puncher Jermain has faced and it isn't like Taylor has never been hurt before. Also, take into consideration the fact that Pavlik showed a pretty damn good chin in the Miranda fight. Miranda's power may be overrated, but he damn sure landed some clean bombs on Pavlik and he just continued on walking him down and putting on the pressure.
     
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    Agreed. I dont think it'll go to decision though. I'm picking Pavlik to stop him in 11.
     
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    No. Taylor is athletic. That along with his size are the only things he has going for him. His problem is he's uncoordinated, and unskilled.
     
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  7. Father of Muzse

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    Taylor is NOT athletic.

    Did you see the footage of he and his wife playing basketball?
     
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    Taylor is only unathletic if your comparing him to someone like Floyd, Mosley, RJ, or Zab. Guys who are super athletic. Most other fighters he can compare with.

    For example, Taylor is more athletic than Cotto. Miguel is much more coordinated, and skilled however, and therefore is a better fighter.
     
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    Lol no, cant say that I did. Taylor looks like one of those brothas who cant ball for shit though, so I'm sure his wife owned him.

    Regardless I still think Taylor is athletic, its really the ONLY thing he has going for him. Once he gets older, and losses that, he's gonna be a big time bum cause he has NO skills to fall back on.
     
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    Jermaine Taylor IS "UNathletic",MASS...

    When REED Calls a Guy "Athletic",he's Speaking of a NATURAL Fluidity or Smoothness N his Motions...A NATURAL Level of COORDINATION that could Carry Over to Practically ANY Other Sport...

    Like Roy Jones 4 Instance...

    REED Could Envision Roy Segueing N 2 ANY Sport (Not on a World Class Level,Mind U)& @ Last "Winging It",so to Speak...Baseball,Football,Basketball,Track,Soccer,etc....Roy could @ Least SIMULATE the Movements from those Sports & LOOK Like he could Compete...Roy's the EXTREME Case of Boxing Athleticism,Obviously...

    N BOXING,"Athletic" Fighters have a NATURAL Level of FOOTWORK,FootSPEED,HANDSPEED,COORDINATION,REFLEXES,BALANCE,etc...

    Jermain Taylor has VERY MINUTE Quantities of these Characteristics,ESPECIALLY For a World Class Black Fighter...

    This ISN'T just a "Black" Thing,Cause Cats like Vinny Pazienza,Jason Litzau,Manny Pac,Nonito Donaire & Prince Naseem Hamed R VERY Athletic...Hector Camacho Sr. was VERY Athletic...Compared to Jermain Taylor,Ricky Hatton is VERY Athletic N REED's Opinion...Ditto for Luis Colazzo...

    N Terms of World Class Fighters,MOST Brothers R @ Least SOMEWHAT Athletic...Leaving Out the OBVIOUS Examples (Roy,Sugar Shane,Zab,Floyd),Cats like Zahir Raheem,Emmanuel Augustus,Bernard,DeMarcus Corley,Junior Witter,Steve Forbes,Cory Spinks,Travis Simms,Allan Green,Chad Dawson & Tarver All R CLEARLY More "Athletic" than Jermain Taylor Is...EASILY...

    As GANGLY & UNCOORDINATED as he Is,REED could Argue that Paul Williams is MORE Athletic...Shit,Demetrius Hopkins is MORE Athletic...As MUCH as he SUCKS,Courtney Burton is MORE Athletic than Jermain Taylor:lol: ...

    Other than a Glen Johnson or some HEAVY's,U'd B Hard Pressed to Find a World Class BLACK Fighter w/LESS "Athleticism" than Jermain Taylor...Is Taylor MORE Athletic than Calvin Brock???:dunno:

    "Athleticism" Doesn't Necessarily WIN Prizefights,but Athletic Fighters R Said to have more "Tools" than NON Athletic Fighters...


    REED:cool:
     
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    That was EMBARRASSING...

    It's NOT a Crime to Lose to your Wife, Particularly when She's N the WNBA,but they were Playing H-O-R-S-E or P-I-G & Taylor was DISGRACEFUL...

    It was as if he'd NEVER EVER Picked Up a Basketball B 4...& for a BROTHER Raised N the Inner City,that's VERY Difficult to Believe...

    Taylor's the Type of Guy that would TRY to Dribble Thru his Legs & Hit HIMSELF N the Nuts...


    REED:lol:
     
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    C'mon REED, leave his stuttering ass alone.:lol:
     
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    :lol: The Thing is,REED WANTS To Like Taylor,Brother X...REED has TRIED to Like Taylor...

    He's like that Chick that U Meet @ the Nightclub w/the Dark Lighting...She LOOKED Fine when U 1st Met her,but Each Time U See her AFTERWARDS(w/Lights ON),she Gets Uglier & UGLIER...


    REED:lol:
     
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    Agreed. I cant stand his ass. After Pavlik KO's him, hopefully he sounds like Golota did vs Tyson in the post-fight interview.
     
  15. Father of Muzse

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    Jermain threw up a couple shots which hit backboard and NO rim...he damn near threw up two handed shots.

    Mike Tyson is similarly uncoordinated. Check out the background piece they did on him prior to his Henry Tillman KO after the Douglas loss. Tyson was VERY uncoordinated and goofy.
     
  16. Father of Muzse

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    I don't dislike Taylor anymore...I hated the way he allowed Pat Burns to run over him and treat him like a 10 year old.

    Taylor seems like a good dude, but he has obviously maxed out his boxing ability.
     
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    Yeah, and now he's going to move up in weight even though he has yet to regularly face middleweights while at the same time not dominating the jrmiddles he's faced. Yep JT's future looks so bright he's going to need shades................





    .......to hide his blackeyes.
     
  18. LOK

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    I cant wait to see Taylor whupped
     
  19. Orthodox Crusader

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    You just don't know how to groove, Whiteboys:nono: :nono:
     
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    would u agree most nba players are very agile? would you consider chris webber athletic?

    you ever seen him throw a punch? or shaq for that matter? or the vast majority of the nba? the shit looks horrible, just like jermaines jump shot, that not his sport,

    jermiane is able to throw clean straight punches and combos with both hands, there are alot of boxers who arent even doing that, and you want to say hes not athletic?

    i bet jermaine could compete in football and other sports, i know alot of black people from the inner city who look horrible and stiff on the basketball court, everyone cant be me
     
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    who said he was raised in the inner city, i thought he was country
     
  22. Orthodox Crusader

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    Didn't you know, White people come from the Country. Black folk from the City. Well, at least in Reeds head. Its an Urbane thing.


    PS....Taylor is from Arkiesaw.

    Thats why he can't groove.:nono: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
     
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    He was raised in the ghetto in Little Rock, which is notorious for gang violence.

    He is pretty country though.
     
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    Are there Black people in the Ghetto. Maybe Taylor hung out with stiff whites, and thus, can't groove accordingly.
     
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    I'm hard pressed but here goes:

    Tim Austin - world class fighter with fewer athletic gifts than Taylor

    I know what REED is sayin - in that sense, Taylor is a boxing savante. He's not some athlete who happens to box, he's a boxer pure and simple.

    And as lacking as he may be in the coordination we're accustomed to seeing among black athletes, he's no doubt one of the hardest guys to beat right now.
     
  26. Orthodox Crusader

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    Doubtless, he has that Vitali thing going on. Can't tie his shoe laces, but never had to clinch. Can't chew bubble and walk at the same time, but never been floored as a pro neither. Seems to win in spite of himself.

    I HEREBY AWARD JERMAINE TAYLOR THE VITALI KLITSCHKO "I LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT JUST TRY ME" AWARD FOR 2007/2008
     
  27. Father of Muzse

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    Taylor has often spoken of his fondness for country music.

    :dunno:
     
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    :lol: :lol: :lol:

    who are some others you'd put in that category?
     
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    Ricky Hatton
    Juan Diaz
     
  30. Orthodox Crusader

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    Hell, if an ole bigot like me can dig a bit of Soul, then I see no reason why Taylor can't groove on some C&W. Some of those tunes can be moved too.

    I can just see Taylor in few years, in a Buffalo jacket jeans and snakeskins looking DiBella right in the face and saying:

    "Your people never will understand the way it works out here, Mr DiBella. You're all just our guests. You think you at home...let me tell you pardner, you ain't home. But thats where we're gonna send you if it hairlips Jose Sulaiman"
     

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