Jermain Taylor Wants Rematch With Pavlik?

Reed is actually a white guy from Maryland.....

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/view_profile.php?userid=291987


:stir:

or maybe a jew trombonist :crafty:
http://steinhardt.nyu.edu/faculty_bios/view/Sean_Reed

but still white...

 

Ah, so you have no proof that you aren't the one in that picture?

 

Damn skippy it's a good idea.

It's the biggest fight out there for Jermain and as we saw he CAN hurt Pavlik, very badly.

 

I also feel JT needs a tuneup. A fighter may think he's ready to get right back in there, but history has shown that even the best fighters lose their confidence when immediately faced with the guy who just kicked their ass. Look at Jones, Mosley, and Forrest for examples.

Plus if JT is really lucky some nobody could come along and expose Pavlik, and then JT can come with the "I don't have to fight him now."

 

I'm sorry to hear this. If a couple years go by, I may feel tricked again in to thinking Taylor has a chance. As it is, if he takes an immediate re, it's just one of those fights where it will be good as long as it lasts, but the winner is never really in question.

 

If this is indeed legit from TAYLOR HIMSELF - then by all means, Taylor should get major props for wanting this fight. That's serious guts right there.

If it happens, I will welcome it and watch it and it's great for boxing.

But do I think it's a good idea for Taylor personally? I have to say.....no.

Peace.

 

You really think so?

I didn't think his jab and body punching were netting him much in rounds 1 or 3-6.

Peace.

 

Finishing a Guy You Have in Trouble 101. You're stupid for comparing how Taylor would have done against a wounded Pavlik and the Pavlik of the rest of the fight. STUPID!

 

:nono: Reed please,...Isn't two blow jobs good enough?... besides, I think the onus is on Hopkins creating a fight with the best fighter in his own division, Chad Dawson, but such words have never, and will never pass through the turkey texture of his watery grey gnarl. Jermaine persuing his son again is an exhumation of the most insulting order.

 

Im not sure about Reed,.....but Illuminati, I'm afraid when the albino wriggler, "the lil conquistador" invaded a promiscuous rigid funnel in search of eggs to pillidge, BAM!,.. that's how such uncle-Tom green eyes are formed,..if it's in the family, let's just say there's a carton of milk 3 quarters full in the fridge,... well?.........

 

You didn't answer my question.

Taylor is already well on his way to 'greatness'. Do I think he'll get there? Probably not, but going 2-0 against Hopkins and drawing with Winky is a nice start.

You don't have to have 'practically EVERYTHING' go right to be considered 'Great'. Otherwise, Marciano and Ottke would be at the top of the greatness heap.

 

WHAT is your Question???


REED:dunno:

 

dsimon writes:

Donny, knowing your boxing knowledge, and not intending any Socratic irony here, I am genuinely curious what else you think Taylor could do. Frankly to me that is the crux of the issue for Taylor, namely who else can he fight at this point?

Rubio said that Taylor could stink up a tune up and I agree with that point. I agree with it because Taylor just does not seem able to dominate a fight against decent comp.

If Taylor moves up no telling what could happen. I mean as far as Taylor's experience dictates, he could be in trouble against a puncher. And any of the marque guys like Calzighe, Kessler, etc have too many skills and too much experience.

I think Taylor is very much is the same position that Lacy was in. I never thought he was very good and I don't think he won any of his major fights. I don't see any options for the guy. His best bet is to let it all hang out against Pavlik imo.

 

WHAT is your Question???


REED:dunno:

Those were the questions you didn't answer.

 

1st of All, Taylor has Been Waaaaaaaaaaay Tooooooooooo INDECISIVE to B "Close" To Greatness, in REED's Opinion...

A Good Resume is NICE, but HOW U LOOK vs. those Fighters is MORE Important to REED...

For REED to Eventually Label Taylor as "Great", he'd have to DECISIVELY Beat the Following Fighters...

1. Kelly Pavlik (@ SOME Point)
2. The Kessler-Calzaghe Winner
3. Chad Dawson
4. 2 ELITE Supermiddle Contenders (Kessler-Calzaghe LOSER, Mundine, Miranda, Green, Lacy,etc.)...

Does that Answer the Question??


REED:dunno:

 

1. Taylor DID "do" against a wounded Pavlik...and couldn't, no matter what. And that was a careless Pavlik who tried to clown in between getting smacked. Will not happen again like that, I'd dare say.

2. The rest of the fight DID happen....Pav won most of the rounds, disrupted Taylor's jab, and basically walked through him.

3. So the way to finish a fighter is to throw jabs and body shots?

But anyway.....you're banned, so quite an irrelevant discussion. ::

Peace.

 

That answers the question.

You've, of course, just required Taylor to do this to achieve greatness...

1. Beat Hopkins sloppily
2. Rebeat Hopkins sloppily
3. Draw with Winky luckily
4. Decisively beat 31-0 Pavlik
4. Decisively beat 40-0 Kessler
5. Decisively beat 25-0 Dawson
6. Decisively beat 2 of top 5ish established contenders
7. Presumably not get derailed along the way.

Your list of great fighters must be very short.

 

Sorry but Options 1,2 & 3 DID NOT Make Much of a Case for Taylor's "Greatness"...

Neither Did Taylor's KO LOSS Against the 1st & ONLY True Middleweight (In his PRIME) he's EVER Fought...



REED

 

I wouldn't consider Taylor to be well on his way to 'greatness.' After losing to Pavlik...Taylor has a lot of work to do.

 

if taylor can manage to get gift decisions and beat up on smaller guys then he'll be the middleweight-super middleweight version of oscar.

 

:doh:

you're so full of sht. stick to facts.

 

The thing is is that the people that hated on Taylor hated on his skill level and the fact that he was fighting little dudes. Nobody questioned the man's heart. That being said as a fighter/athlete and someone that wants to be the best you have to beat the dude that beats you. Fuck all that tune-up shit. Get back in the ring and pay that dude back. Taylor would be a bitch if he didn't. I give Taylor mad props. Now I don't think he will win due to the fact that he doesn't posses the skills to beat Pavlik nor does he have any other gameplan he can rely on. I'll Holla 5000

 

Taylor will get smoked this time. Pavlik KO 3.

 

Taylor will get stopped AGAIN

I dont pick anyone around that weight to beat Pavlick right now.. maybe Bernard but he's retired

 

Who knows...

At least Taylor knows he can hurt Pavlik badly...so at least he takes that into a rematch and try to make something happen....

it's not like other rematches that loser in the first fight didn't do shit but get beat up...