Jones-Machida rematch headlines UFC 152 in Toronto, flyweight title now co-main

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    Floyd Mayweather is DUCKING Manny Pacquiao...He's Sought Every Reason Under the Sun to NOT Face him...The Fight has Been Offered & Negotiated NUMEROUS Times, but Floyd Flat Out DOESN'T Want it...THAT's "Ducking"...

    Jon Jones was Offered a Fight w/Sonnen Which Gave him 3-4 Days of Prep Time & he Said NO..."However", Jones Said he'd GLADLY Fight Sonnen w/20+ Days of Preparation...

    If U CAN'T See the Difference in the 2 Scenarios REED Just Laid Out for U, he'll "Tap Out" & Stop WASTING his Efforts....



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    The "Fan" in You ISN'T Being Realistic, Dude...Perhaps U Can Enlighten REED on Just How Many Defending UFC Champions Went Thru w/a Change of Opponent on 8 Days Notice???....

    SERIOUS Question...

    Another Contributing Factor to the UFC's Soaring Popularity was it's STACKED Cards, which HASN'T Been Happening Lately...Dana OFTEN Bitches about Boxing, yet he's Now Offering LESS Bang for MORE PPV Buck than Ever Before...UFC 151 Contained 1 PPV Worthy Fight & that ISN'T Jones' Fault...

    Had Dana & the Fertitties Put Together a Deeeeeeeeeeeper Card, we'd All Be Discussing the Fights FROM that Card this Morning...Basically, the gREED of the UFC Brass Came Back & Bit them on the Ass & Now they're Making Jon Jones the Fall Guy...


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    Sonnen's MOUTH Does More to Keep him Relevant than his Fighting Skills, that's for Sure...



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    I can see the difference. But what you don't understand is the definition of ducking. It doesn't have to be similar to PAC vs Floyd. It only has to be one fighter refusing to fight another. No matter what the reason
     
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    The Word "Ducking" Connotes FEAR, which Simply ISN'T the Case in Regards to Jones vs Sonnen...

    Jones CHOSE NOT to Fight Sonnen on 8 Days Notice, yet was FINE w/Fighting him on 20+ Days Notice...That's NOT "Ducking", Dude, & it's SILLY to Suggest he Did...



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    The word ducking does NOT mean fear. It means you did not fight someone. Fear is what you attribute it too. I clearly stated why i felt Jones ducked him. I clearly stated that Jones did it because Sonnen got under his skin. I clearly stated that it wasn't fear.
     
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    When Fear is Left OUT of the Equation, Guys Typically Say "The Fight just Never Materialized"...But When a Person is Trying to Indicate 1 Person was SCARED of the Other, the Word "Ducked" is ALWAYS Used...

    U KNOW this as Well as REED Does, but for Some Reason U're Bogging Yourself Down in Semantic BULLSHIT...



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    I can use semantics because i clearly indicated why Jones DUCKED sonnen. And i specifically mentioned that it wasnt fear. So for you to even bring up fear is simply ridiculous. You were looking for a fight where there wasnt one.
     
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    Nah, Actually You're Being a Fucking ASSHOLE by Attributing a Term to Jones that You KNOW is ALWAYS Meant to Imply FEAR in 1 Man, for Another...

    But Whatever...

    By YOUR "Logic", REED Could Call Out Jones Tomorrow & if for WHATEVER Reason Jones DOESN'T Accept the Challenge, REED Can Beat his Chest & Tell the World that Jon "Bones" Jones DUCKED Him....


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    Read my quotes carefully. I posted them early in this thread. There is no way i am attributing the term ducking to fear. EVEN if you attribute it to fear, and EVEN if everyone attributes it to fear, and EVEN if the actual definition of Duck means to fear someone, I CLEARLY PLACED AN ADDENDUM in my description, attributing the duck job to Sonnen pissing Jones off.
     
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    Precisely...

    & like the Fucking ASSHOLE that You Are, You Intentionally Select Perhaps THE WORST Word Imaginable to Characterize the Situation...A Word that's Pretty Much UNIVERSALLY Associated w/FEAR, by Any & EVERYBODY that's Ever Posted about a Combative Sport...

    Now, as Usual, You BOG yet Another Topic Down in BULLSHIT Semantics...

    Basically, Fuck You AND your Addendum...Jon Jones DID NOT Duck Some UNDERSIZED, Ricardo Mayorga WANNABE, Coming Off a 2nd Round AssWhipping, Especially Considering he Offered to Fight the Same Motherfucker in 20+ Days...& Only YOU Would Suggest or Insinuate Otherwise...

    You Can Swing from the Sack of Sonnen til your Face is Creamy White w/his Man Juice, but it Still DOESN'T Mean Jones "Ducked" Him...Your Choice of Words was IDIOTIC when U 1st Used it & it STILL Is, Regardless How STUBBORN U Choose to Be...



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    Reed if there is anyone who has a sack in his face its Jones Sack in yours. I am a bigger fan of Jones than Sonnen. I have stated that numerous times. I am not the only one that says Jones ducked Sonnen. read the thread again. Go on More popular MMA forums. Go on MMA websites, etc. Many people are saying it.

    You are the one that took the word and began this bullshit display like you always do. You do this every time. You cant even present your arguments without insulting someone. You have insulted more than just me in this thread, you have insulted other forum members too on this thread.

    I can use any word i want. You arent the word police. You will never tell me what word i can use or cant use. Jones ducked Sonnen. Plain and simple. Jones had an opportunity to fight Sonnen and said NO. That is a duck job, plain and simple.

    Now because you are a fan of Jones, you take it personally. You cry and throw a tantrum every time. There is nothing personal here. Jones ducked Sonnen and he is now dealing with the consequences.

    I will also remind you that currently fighters fight with less than 8 days notice. Grand Prix tournaments still exist, where fighters fight 3 times and dont know who the their opponent is.

    Also by him not fighting "Some UNDERSIZED, Ricardo Mayorga WANNABE, Coming Off a 2nd Round AssWhipping" makes things even worse.

    Luckily for you. You arent Jones' PR man because he would be crucified for not fighting someone so unworthy in your opinion.

    That being said, Jones own coach makes it sound worse for Jones by saying the complete opposite of you.
    “I was giving my opinion on if that was a good fight or not. Sonnen is no joke. He’s a great, great fighter.”
    “Chael is in a great position in that he’d been training with Dan Henderson for this fight, getting him ready, and he’s in shape. He knows the plan on what they’re gonna do to get around Jon. So he’s ready to go. It’s not like he’s stepping off the couch and into a fight."

    I think Jackson is full of shit and trying to spin this properly. BUT if i were to go by Jackson's words (and i don't) you would think Jones is scared of fighting chael on 8 days notice because he is scared of possibly losing to him. So who is right Reed? You or Jackson? You both cant be right because you are both saying different things. Just to set the record straight. I DO NOT THINK JONES is scared of Chael. I think Jones could have taken this fight on 2 minutes notice and beaten Sonnen. He is just on a different level than Sonnen. I think Sonnen Pissed Jones off and for that, he ducked the fight to show Sonnen who's the boss.

    I cant get anymore clearer than that. And if someone still doesn't understand that after reading what i just wrote, i can only recommend a good reading Tutor.
     
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    REED has Read Opinions on Other MMA Sources & of Those Using the Word "Ducked", ALL of them R Insinuating Jones is SCARED of Sonnen, Which REED Calls Bullshit On...That's the Context in which the Word "Ducked" is ALWAYS Used in Combative Sports & to Act as if it Isn't is DISingenuous....

    Just as YOU have the Right to Say WHAT U Want, REED has the Right to Call BULLSHIT on It...That Game Can Be Played From Now Until Jones Retires...REED ISN'T Taking Anything Personally, REED is ARGUING his Point...If YOU'VE Taken it Personally, that's YOUR Issue...If U Haven't, Stop Crying...

    Anyways, in these Grand Prix Tournaments U Speak Of, Those Guys Know PRIOR TO ENTERING that they'll Face Multiple Guys on Short Notice...That's Something they have Time to PREPARE For, which is Altogether Different from the Scenario Dana White "Offered" To Jon Jones...

    Greg Jackson is Spin Doctoring & REED Doesn't Blame Him...Jackson SHOULD have his Fighters Best Interests @ Heart...Doesn't Change the FACT that Sonnen is an Undersized, Ricardo Mayorga Wannabe...& AFTER Jones Beats the Brakes Off of him (Which he Will, Because this Situation has Been the PERFECT Promotional Ploy for Sonnen to Get a Title Shot @ 205), the Haters will Use Similar Terms to Describe Sonnen/DIScredit Jones' Win Over Him...

    You KNOW it & REED Knows it...



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    I didnt say it hasnt been used that way. That is why i clearly posted the reason for the duck. So as to not confuse anyone.

    like the Fucking ASSHOLE that You Are
    -Reed
    Basically, Fuck You
    -Reed
    Nah, Actually You're Being a Fucking ASSHOLE
    -Reed
    There is no other way to take this but personal.

    In this case, it would be easier for Jones. Sonnen has no hands, only wrestling. And Jones TDD is too good and he is too strong to be kept down by Sonnen. Easy fight for Jones, which would further enhanced his legacy.

    We shall see
     
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