Joshua-Povetkin predictions

We’ll see how good Fury’s ring IQ is against wilder. He may well be one of those guys that looks clever because of all the movement and meaningless postering but turns out to be a no IQ having cunt like Shane Mosley.

 

Nope. It's easy to say that. I mean, let's say he beats all of this 'flotsam', it's an easy way for you to give the guy absolutely no credit. Not buying it.

 

It's a shitty division in a shitty time for boxing... I grew up when the guy he's named after was skillfully kicking the fuck out of skillful opposition when the idea of somebody like this being lauded as one of the best heavyweights in the world wouldn't have even been imaginable... what would you like me to say? The guy is a big oaf with reasonable agility for a big oaf and he's one of the better fighters in a crap era

 

Fury is no all time great. But I don’t think he needs to be one to beat this current crop of heavyweights.

I think 96 Tyson would dominate this division with no fuss.

 

That’s the popular position to take in every era. Want to be popular on a message board? Just say “this is a terrible era, so and so from a previous era would have dominated this division”. Fans always prefer past divisions

 

My point is, you don't leave any avenue he could go down which could change your mind. Let's say for example, hypothetically, he beats Wilder twice (am assuming there's a rematch clause in the contract), then beats Joshua and then beats Usyk. That would mean in his last seven fights he's dethroned the most dominant heavyweight champion outside of Louis and Holmes in his own backyard, beaten the most dangerous, hard hitting guy in the division (in his own backyard) twice, beaten the glamour guy of boxing and the undisputed cruiserweight champ, won every single belt available, not to mention taking three fighter's 0's...and it means nothing? After all, as you have said in previous threads, you can only beat what's around you, he obviously doesn't have the luxury of changing divisions to seek other challenges, so what more could he do to prove your assessment wrong?

 

In this case, I think it’s true, though.

Two of the top 3 guys can bang, but are very limited in terms of overall boxing technique and craft.

 

Wilder Doesn’t Need to Reinvent the Wheel to Beat Fury...

Cut the Ring Off, Jab His Way Into Range, Look to Counter Fury’s Jab and Unload...

REED Tbinks Wilder Should Focus On the BODY Early Doors Also, But That’s the Only True “Adjustment” He’ll Need to Make...

Being WILD and EXPLOSIVE Will Benefit Wilder More In This Fight Than Most Others...He’s Not Going to Out-Slick or Out-Cute Fury, So Don’t Brother Trying.









REED

 

Once Wilder HITS Fury, All the Ring IQ In Existence Won’t Save Him.

Fury Fans Have Rationalized the Cunningham Knocksown into “Bolivian”, But the Simple Fact Is Getting Hit and Hurt by Cunningham is 2 Nights and 3 Days DIFFERENT From Being Hit By Wilder.

It’ll Make Sense to the Massses Once Wilder Hits Him CLEAN.







REED

 

funny that some Vitaly fans are always discrediting the current 3 top guys, and the opposition they faced, while praising that big ukrainian bum who never beated a single guy that was above the semi-decent level

 

Alexander Povetkin was defeated by Anthony Joshua in the 7th round.

 

This has always been the case too. According to Nat Fleischer, Sugar Ray Robinson lacked the inside fighting craft of Stanley Ketchell's, even though he admitted that Robinson was a great athlete

 

Leaving aside the considerable wald pussy hyperbole (the cunt should've been DQd a good 10 times in his career) HOW does he achieve this? His victory over wald pussy is a result of the most depressingly negative, disgraceful non-fight in championship history... when I was praising vitaly, it was precisely because of HOW he won. He won by fighting, by physically beating the garbage across from him, completely dominant. If he had lazily gestured and play-acted his way to decisions for years, I wouldn't rate him so favorably. If Fury did the things you described, it would make him the current kingpin... what those victories looked like would determine their weight

 

It's too bad there's no video evidence of the last 70 years of professional prizefighting

This isn't football... nobody invented Total Boxing, there's been no recent tactical revolution, no increase in pace and pressure ... it's the same sport

Nat Fleischer was an idiot (though I seriously doubt he said that ^ regarding Ketchel) ... I can watch Stanley Ketchel and quickly deduce he was fucking awful and would've been Cannon fodder for anybody serviceable post-Dempsey just as surely as I can see that Brazil 1970 would be unable to deal with the pace, fitness and closing down of space in modern football and would likely get killed by the current Scottish national team ... this isn't about rose colored glasses

 

He definitely did say it, according to a biography written about Ketchell

 

Have you actually watched the fight yet?

MTF

 

Not yet. I heard Joshua had been suffering from the flu or some shit in the week before the fight though...so perhaps we should cut him some slack.

 

, at anybody believing these excuses. There really is a sucker born every minute

 

Like I said, he was an idiot

The rest of my post was solid fucking GOLD

 

I see no reason for excuses. It’s not like he lost. Instead he knocked out a previously “unknockedout” guy in 7 rounds. I don’t see any reason to make that up.

 

Sly, you haven't even watched the fight, yet you are pontificating about it.

MTF

 

Post my pontification

 

You have done so yourself, in basically each of your last twenty posts in this thread.

MTF

 

Post one

 

'Cut him some slack'

MTF

 

Not pontificating here at all.

MTF

 

Didn't watch the fight, but won with '5 rounds to spare'.

Not pontificating.

MTF

 

But feebs.....

None of those posts were not me talking about his performance or about the way the fight went, which is what I assumed you were talking about since you are suggesting that I shouldn’t even talk about the fight since I have t seen it.

Won with five rounds to spare is fine to say since he won in the 7th and the fight was scheduled for 12.

Had the flu is fine to say since tho s was on the media.

“Say it is a terrible era” etc has nothing to do with this fight specifically but a general comment about the way fans tend to treat contemporaries.
So exactly what is your point feebs?

If this were a court of law the judge would have already tossed you out of his chamber for wasting the courts time with a non case.

 

Aye, if you say so. The way I view these things is that, if I am going to have an opinion on a fight, I probably should have watched it.

MTF

 

really??? His performance is getting criticised and is considered poor by a lot of fans and media, and you don't see a reason why they are coming up with excuses? Like really???