Julio Cesar Chavez Jr Thread

that doesn't keep you from complaining about the same shit when it's fighters you don't like or find undeserving... :nono:

 

any relevant examples to someone on the level of Chavez Jr? Someone who has little control over the direction of his career?

 

Little control? He's the one who chose to do his amateur career at the professional level. Why doesn't he take his ass into anonymity back into his old man's basement and fight some scrubs and then when he's ready, step up and take on some real fighters?
People talked mega sh*t about any other fighter out there fighting wimps like Audley Harrison but suddenly cause this kid has the last name Chavez, it's all a free ride while he pads on sh*t fight after fight and people are jumping on his wagon just because he doesn't trip over his feet putting together 3 punches despite never having taken even half a punch.

 

Jake's argument is weak as sh*t.:: He likes his little mexicans, bottom line. Tremendous favouritism for the old man's kid, no doubt about it. A bandwagon for some kid who hasn't even had his whiskers touched.

 

As I stated earlier, the bums that Jr. is beating are giving some "bonafide prospects" fits.

Why turn pro? Because he's making some good money off of his name. He's getting some decent fights in as a prospect. Now he's slowly stepping it up.

Why is he being shoved down our throats? Because people actually pay to see him.

Try telling Bob Arum that a fighter selling nine thousand seats, 5-digits more PPV sales, and a cheap opponent is a bad idea.

The fans want to see him, so he's provided for us.

 

I can't believe fans are actually condoning this garbage. It's exactly what's killing the sport. A complete mockery!
Fans on here are going on and on about fighters needing to fight the best. When fighters make huge money for fighting easy fights, people complain. But when this kid does it, it's great! :dunno: Just because his last name sells tickets and he makes good money for doing squat.
Why didn't every fighter out there past or present just do the same sh*t? Since it's only about selling tickets and getting paid by the looks of it.

 

More power to the boxer who can rip people off of their hard-earned money! :clap:

 

Is he headlining PPV events? If not, then who gives a shit? We see less competitive matchups as the headliner. He's often the first our second fight of a PPV featuring four fights.

 

Ripped off would imply people were paying money to watch him fight...and there might be some...but I doubt there's many people on this site that were buying tickets/ppvs to watch JCC Jr. fight.

Chavez Jr. came along at a time when most undercards were 3 fights, so if he was the fourth (in a 4 rounder), he probably wasn't taking away anybody else's tv slot.

 

Good point. I remember a few instances in which his fight was added as a fourth "special attraction" bout to cards that were supposed to have three televised fights.

Plus, I know three mexican-american immigrants who buy PPVs that he is on only because he is on it.

 

Yes I'm showing blatant favoritism because he's Julio's son. Because everyone who knows me, knows how big a fan I was of Julio Sr.

 

I have a friend who does the same thing...he always asks me if he's going to be on this upcoming card or that one.

But that's because the Chavez name is an INSTITUTION among Mexicans and Mexican-Americans. As an outsider, Chavez appears to the boxing version of Chivas.

There's a demand among those fans to watch him, and in part perhaps to support him...I don't think they're being ripped off when they pay their money. But then, most Mexican fans I know have parties (and often rotate host-houses) to watch major fights...which makes it as much a social event as anythnig.

 

Back when I hosted an online radio show, we got more emails on Chavez Jr. than any other fighter.

 

he's gonna get KTFO

 

Thanks LOK.

Let it ride on Jr.

 

dsimon writes:

Chavez has skills that you don't see generally.... like really good body punching. It takes a long time to develop body punching and even though he is very diffrent than Cotto in his approach to the body what is sigificant is that he is putting in the time. he also has patience and he is very strong physically for his size. he is becoming a very strong puncher.

Vlad is fast can't body punch much at all and ties up anyone who could possibly trade with him... or hits the canvas.

Maybe this concept is a bit complex for a message board but the fact is that when you have a doctorate degree in a country where maybe 2% of the population do, and you come from a connected family, it is not the same as coming up with maybe a college education in Mexico City. Vlad and his brother have already pursued politics and Quitaly dicked everyone around as he decided whether he would enter the ring again or not (that takes real commitment).

Honestly it would not suprise me to see junior fall down a few times. He has skills that is a fact and nothing can take that away from him as he has demonstrated those skills. He sets his shots up well already, does not rush and is very accurate. Cotto got a dose of reality with Torres and even if he had lost that fight he would still be going strong. Don't forget my Canadian compadre... Vargus when he was coming up never skipped a beat, he never made the kind of mistakes Cotto made and probably looked a lot better than people envision him now... and a lot of good it did him.:dunno: ld: He might have been better off getting punched a few more times and subsequently waiting to fight Tito.... so yeah it may very well be the case that junior loses a few matches, or at the very least exposes some weaknesses.... and frankly I have even seen prospects that look a little more skilled overall... but I don't think this will stop him if he keeps improving every fight and becoming more accurate as he seems to be doing. You are just blinded by your hate.