Just Got Word that Jones-Hanshaw Is On

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  1. Tam Tam

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    Whats the intriguing match on the Jones v Hanshaw card? Some undercard fight matched well?
     
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    Jake WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    A shitty undefeated super middleweight vs. a shot version of Roy who hasn't fought below light heavyweight in over ten years. To me, it's intriguing (but not worth anything more than free tv)
     
  3. Tam Tam

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    Eh. It would be watchable if free, or underneath a fight that mattered. Only the sickest of fans pay for it though.
     
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    Jake WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Well, you are posting on a site that used to have a "Planet Roy" section... :lol:
     
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    I don't understand how Roy thinks this fight will sell in any respectable numbers.

    That being said, I'll probably buy it. I usually buy every PPV, but one I won't buy this year is Hop-Winky (don't need the sleeping aid).
     
  6. Tam Tam

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    Those were the good old days :doh:
     
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    REED, why would you shatter the credibility of your own argument with such utter nonsense as the RING claim above?
     
  8. Tam Tam

    Tam Tam "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Paulie Ayala and Vitali Klitschko baby. Reppin' RING Magazine :bears:
     
  9. Rubio MHS

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    For almost 90 years, Ring magazine's rankings have been biased towards certain promoters and networks. When Max Schmeling was absolutely tearing up the light heavyweight scene in Europe - as no one had done before - he didn't even get a top-10 ranking. Ring magazine has a habit of ranking fighters that the major HBO/Showtime stars are about to face. Here are a few shameful examples:
    • Prince Badi Ajamu ranked #10 at light heavyweight after signing to face Roy Jones
    • Patrick Charpentier ranked #7 at welterweight when talk of a matchup between him and De la Hoya were starting up.
     
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    Good point, and reminds me of two more...
    • Glen Kelly ranked #10 the moment he became Roy's mandatory
    • Sebastian Lujan sneaking into the top 10 when he signed to face Kermit Cintron. Only it backfired as he instead wound up facing (and nearly losing his ear to) Margarito
     
  11. Tam Tam

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    There are actually plenty of cases like this. Its more common than you'd notice, especially when it comes to fighters sub 130 pounds. The presence of corruption in South American and Asian rankings is quite likely.
     
  12. Rubio MHS

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    Joe Koizumi still influences their rankings, I've heard.
     
  13. Tam Tam

    Tam Tam "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Oh, I have no doubt about that. But to be honest, he should have as much pull as anyone who writes for them. He's truly one of the most respect scribes around and with good reason, IMO.

    The issue comes when he puts other hats on and perhaps what kind of a conflict of interest that then creates.

    Still, oft times I believe Ring Magazine don't want to get caught with their pants down. When a fighter becomes a mandatory and they have no idea who he is...ranking them before the fight somehow covers their asses, just in case he's actually good.

    It's not corruption, but its equally as damaging and calls into question the legitimacy of their entire ranking system.
     
  14. Rubio MHS

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    They're probably still reeling from the time they said, "how did Ricardo Mayorga become a mandatory?"
     
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    Time for some old Ring Rankings me thinks:

    June 2001...just cos its the first one I picked up. Some interesting ones...

    Mike Tyson #3 @ Heavyweight
    Kirk Johnson #6

    Virgil Hill #2 @ Cruiserweight

    Eric Harding #3 @ Lightheavy
    Chris Johnson #6

    Dingaan Thobela #7 @ 168
    Mads Larsen #10

    Armand Kranjc #4 @ 160 (one of the worst ones, foreigner with flashy record and belt)
    Hassine Cherifi #6
    Antonio Perugino #9 (the throw in foreigner with an unbeaten record...#2)

    Alex Bunema #7 @ 154

    Ener Julio #5 @ 140, simply by beating an undefeated KO artist with no real wins.

    Colin Dunne #7 @ 135. Ouch.

    Jongkwon Baek #6 @ 130. Hmmmmm...nobody seen him fight?

    Frankie Toledo #6 @ Feather. He beat Botile after Botile ruined Ingle...if they saw the fight, they couldn't reward Toledo that much.

    Jorrin #3 @ 122...zoiks.

    Enough from me.
     
  16. Rubio MHS

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    Those are good picks, you elitist.
     
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    I agree that most of this is or probably is true. And with the exception of the Ring voters who might know differently, I don't see how anyone can argue these sentiments aren't plausible and probable. And it's why praising the Ring ratings as being 'legitimate' is hard for me to take.
     

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