Kermit Cintron Talks About Last Night's Fight

I don't think he deliberately threw himself out of the ring, that's a pretty crazy thing to do, risking serious injury at the sametime. But i think he eventually found himself in a position that he thought he could use to his advantage.

If it turned out he had dislocated a shoulder or something, him laying there would be understandable...but if he was merely winded, i have a hard time believing he was finding it so difficult to move, and that he genuinely wanted to continue.

 

I don't give a fuck what the doctors told him, if he REALLY wanted to continue, he would have given them something to work with, and just fucking got up.

When they said stay still etc don't move, he would have been like wtf are you talking about? I'm fine, and just got up and continued the fight. What would they do? Pin him back down and force him in the amber lamps? ::

Can you imagine someone like Morales falling out of the ring, and them telling him to stay there, he would just be like shut up, get up and continue fighting.

If Cintron wanted to continue the fight, he would have got up, simple as that, regardless of what the doctors said.

 

It's not really surprising that Cintron has a wrestling background. Wrestlers should be banned from boxing, they can stick to stinking out MMA.

 

What does this have to do with the thread topic dude?

 

Amen bro. I don't want the quitting culture that infects cage fighting disciplines like wrestling to touch boxing.

 

Cintron threatens to quit the sport if decision isn't changed to a NC.

In other news, 99% of Fightbeat rejoice! lmao

 

Argh. This is 9/11 syndrome. I am so fed up with it.

Nothing can ever be explained simply anymore, it's always a conspiracy, no matter how obvious and simple the evidence is. I get it. You're watching the fight, it ends abruptly, you're pissed off and you want that fucker to continue. He gets stretchered out, now you remember the Martinez fight, and your mind starts to lumber ahead about how much you hate Cintron, your night is wrecked, and on and on you go. I get it. Initially I was pissed, too, but when morning comes doesn't the selfish anger wear off a bit?

So let's review.

(A) Cintron intentionally threw himself out of the ring in just the 4th round of a fight that his corner thought he was winning, and indeed on the scorecards was damn close to a draw.
(B) He was smart and quick enough to do this during a legitimate fall. So he must have had a preconceived plan of some kind.
(C) Cintron himself knew the obscure California rules concerning this sort of thing. That is, he actually KNEW ahead of time that if he fucking THREW himself out of the ring with 3.5 rounds over, and he couldn't get back in the ring in time, that it would go to the cards. Kermit Cintron? Uh huh. I don't think anyone in the HBO crew knew this until they were told, and I'd bet 1% of the people on this board knew this, but dumbass Kermit I-can-barely-put-a-sentence-together Cintron knew this one bizarre rule, hey?
(D) Not only did he know the rule, see A and B above about how he planned to use it to his advantage through an immeasurably freakish and insane plane involving launching his body out of the ring.
(E) Cintron (who is brilliant according to most here, given his unparalleled ability to memorize all rules in every state and plan impossible events to escape a fight he thought he was winning) is sort of an idiot savant - that is, he is brilliant in some ways, but in others he is retarded. Case in point - he risked career-ending injury throwing himself out of the ring, and somehow it never occurred to him that being permanently crippled is not worth MAYBE winning one truncated fight with minimal value.
(F) The doctors who were seen and heard by many (including HBO personnel) telling him to stay down because of a possible neck/back injury were also plants, thus showing the genius mastermind Cintron is that most ignorant fans like myself just weren't aware of. He paid the doctors off to yet further fortify his excuse, which of course all led to his rich payload of...


A FUCKING LOSS.

Yes, people, it is obvious isn't it? I just couldn't see it like you paranoid fellows pissed off that you didn't even get through 2 beers.

What has happened to common sense? This happens every time some sort of aborted fight incident occurs. These fighters are mostly high school dropouts who do everything by instinct, and have IQs down at about 75 most of the time. Can you folks just wake up for once and stop reading into this with so much emotion and conspiratorial nonsense?

Yeah, Cintron has perhaps one time ever pulled bitch stuff in the past, but even that I think was him being so legitimately dazed by a punch that he thought he got butted for real. Otherwise this guy stood in there with concrete Marg twice and got his head handed to him, and has stuck it out with the likes of Angulo and never gave up. Maybe he's not all that likeable, but to even conjecture that he did all of this in order to ultimately lose a fight is so stupid it isn't even worth pursuing. He wasn't even tired, and he landed more punches than Williams. He virtually shut down Williams, and tall Paul was fighting Cintron's fight. Kermit was getting extremely close with that right hand, and he wasn't even breathing hard. Even if he somehow really did have a plan to try and weasel out of the fight, why in hell would he implement in when he was in such a good position, as opposed to waiting for a time when things were looking bad for him?

None of this makes any sense. Honestly, what is truly the more likely explanation for what happened? That Cintron is an idiot who fell out of the ring after a clinch not even initiated by himself, and subsequently was told by 2 overly-cautious ringside doctors not to move due to possible neck trauma (or as Kermit said he was told, a punctured lung) as heard and corroborated by numerous people

-OR-

see (A)-(F) above about how he threw himself senselessly out of the ring in order to immediately lose the fight?

The only post I saw in here that I think could describe a scenario where Cintron legitimately deserves criticism cited the concept that the fall was legit, but that perhaps once Cintron was on the ground and the doctors were telling him not to move, one of his corner/camp came over and told him to stay down, perhaps having checked on the rule in California. I think that is unlikely, but at least it is plausible in explaining what happened in such a way that Cintron would indeed deserve harsh criticism. Otherwise, let it go. Yeesh. Next time some poor sap will have a heart attack in the ring and half the people here will claim he "bitched out" by purposely eating a high-cholesterol diet leading up to the fight.

 

artie:

 

My eyes don't lie. He has a history of quitting on himself and he did it again. The guy is a bitch get your head out of the sand.

 

who gets there breath knocked out by tripping and rolling on a table?

 

Cintron = diving quitter

 

This is hilarious the guy in every sense of the word took a dive !

 

and he's stupid enough to think that boxing fans would fall for his bullshit. At least Hopkins had a rep as a warrior so people gave him a pass. This is like Golata trying to pull the wool over our eyes :dunno:

 

It's simple. Wrestlers have perfected the art of diving out of the ring and Cintron has a wrestling back ground.

Also, I initially agreed with Outlander, but after seeing the video I noticed something. If you fall the one place you'd want to land other than your feet would be your side and your shoulder. You wouldn't want to land on your stomach or back. And surprise surprise Cintron landed on his side and shoulder and it looked pretty obvious that he planned it that way.

 

Some of you are doubting exactly how big of a bitch Kermit is. I for one was absolutely shocked he even agreed to fight Paul Williams. In case you forgot Cintron ducked fights with Clottey twice. The second time he actually agreed to fight Clottey which was when I made my infamous "I can't believe cintron took the clottey fight" thread. What happens right after that? Cintron pulls out of the fight.

So why would he agree to fight Paul Williams if he's afraid of Clottey? My thinking is--much like everyone else--he overrated the Angulo win and thought he was a top tier fighter, but when he actually got in that ring with PW he was terrified and looked for a way out. The guy is a coward through and through and he's great at bitching after fights if you remember the Martinez fight.

Really my only interest in him fighting Paul Williams was to see how bad Cintron would get beat and what round he'd get stopped in.

 

The weird thing in the fall was, when a normal guy trips he instinctively tries to grab something or protect himself with his hands. As Cintron stumbled towards the ropes, he didn't try to grab the ropes, nor even brought his hands in front of him. That looks highly suspicious.

The same happens in football. When a normal guy gets tripped, he falls hands first. When a football player takes a dive, he throws his arms up

 

Makes sense.

Maybe he thought he saw Mr Fuji on the ring apron and went for the suicide dive.

 

A completely, and utterly, unfounded rep. Hopkins, has been the most slippery, hypnotising, elusive coackroach, boxing has ever seen,..

 

Very true. He is despicable and the weird thing is he didn't need to be. I guess old habits die hard.

 

Outlander I'm very surprised at you especially.

If he wanted to continue, he would have got up, simple as that.

 

I like when he says..

"Fricken... man.. i'm not gonna curse.. those people that say that.. they don't know Jack Shit" ::

 

if you were winning a fight and felt confident, I think the last thing you'd do is "Leap out of the ring and fake an injury" ::

 

We should've known Cintron was a bitch when he started crying after his first appearance on Shobox.

 

i can't believe people are saying cintron purposely jumped out of the ring and flopped thru the ropes and onto the table.

i think that boxing is declining because of the fanbase and their collective IQ being the laughing stock of society. I think half of you should be banned

Now maybe Cintron thought he was ahead and didn't get up right away, or exaggerated how hurt he was from the fall... but other than that.... i literally am speechless at the stupidity that has overrun this place. Maybe i shouldn't be so surprised

 

:bears:

 

And thats the bottom line. If he'd had any particular determination to continue he would have. How much was either premeditated or thought out while he was down there is really secondary to the cold fact of him laying on a table making 'woman gestures like eeew eeeww', completely acquiescing to an important fight being stopped.

Nobody I have any interest in watching would have done that.

 

Let’s keep in mind his wrestling background…these guys usually take falls much better than your average boxer BUT I find it strange to throw a fight that he was actually winning, I had him up 2-1 coming into the forth….

 

We did, you didn't. But it's not like I didn't try to tell you.

I must have missed the part where it was somehow proven he DIDN'T purposely dive out of the ring, since we're all retards for what we think happened and you're all smart and brilliant for what you think happened.

 

and people wonder why boxing is declining in this country. their fans are a laughing stock :doh:

 

Aren't you a boxing fan too?