Kermit Cintron Talks About Last Night's Fight

yep. sadly i will get lumped in with the rest of these numbskulls

 

I think Cintron thought it would be dramatic to go flying out of the ring. You know, like centerfielder in baseball that throws down a dive he didn't need to after catching a ball at waist level.

What he was thinking after that, who the fuck knows.

 

Because his plan was to steal the victory on the cards, simple, his management indicated they knew about this california rule in a post fight interview.

 

yeh he's gonna risk being injured and losing hundreds of thousands of dollars in future fights

that makes sense

it's no suprise that the American posters suspect this

 

I'm one American that doesn't.

BTW: you're in Australia? One of my favorite TV shows is Aussie!

 

As said...I don't question how hurt he was but the replay doesn't lie. His left ankle clearly presses into the canvas and propels him upward...clearly. That is without question.

I've stumbled a time or two in my life and I've never gone airborne like that...it's as though he intended to clear the rope...

in my eyes a true stumble...his upperbody goes through the ropes and yet his lower body is caught by the ropes...the opposite happened. He flew superman style over the rope to the point his feet were higher than his head.

It's akin to the Kennedy Assasination..."back and to the left...back and to the left."

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this is getting even more embarrassing. just stop ffs

 

Watching the fight live, I didn't know what to think of the circus act but have to admit that I wasn't terribly convinced that he had any interest in continuing. I really don't care what he had to say way after the fact, although I found it ironic (and humorous) that his threat to retire was met with applause from most.

Rewatching the replay, he was certainly off balance a couple of seconds before sailing out of the ring, but a valid point is made - he should've stumbled, not propelled.

What I can say was even if he intended to literally dive and make a show of it, there was nothing staged about the landing - he hit his shoulder on the ring apron, his head on the table and the small of his back on the ringside monitor. So, if the dive was planned, then it was the world's shittiest landing.

Further troubling, however, is that on the international broadcast, Col. Bob Sheridan - who gets excited over a jab - didn't seem the least bit surprised when Kermit flew out of the ring. Maybe that feed was delayed and he did a piss poor job of calling the fight as if he were watching live.

I honestly don't know what to think of any of this, but in a sad way Cintron brought it upon himself. For all of the massive amounts of hype surrounding his career, he's never exactly proven to be a warrior.

 

That's the root of the issue. The jumping out of the ring part is more funny than factual but it does look a bit suspect. His lack of desire to continue with the fight is what he is being criticized for and rightfully so IMHO.

Very disappointing. 5 seconds after he fell, they were talking about going to the cards. I'm surprised that discussion isn't more prevalent.

 

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hex-one, you love that fat retarded black guy dont you?

 

Yeah. Sometimes it's a natural instinct to jump rather than to run into someone (in this case Paul Williams). For example, basketball players often dive into the stands in an attempt not to mow down spectators. So I don't discount the possibility his jumping was the result of his efforts not to step on Williams (who was on the ground).

Like others have said, what I cannot explain is his remaining on the ground, making no attempt to declare that he's able to continue.

Still, there's no doubt the doctors over-reacted in their refusal to entertain the idea the fight could continue.

If I had to guess, I'd say events occurred in the following way:

1. Williams fell to the ground
2. Cintron, who was off balance, found himself on his way to stepping on Williams
3. As a result of 2, Cintron jumped in order to avoid stepping on Williams
4. Once on the ground, Cintron was mildly shaken up, but able to fight on. However, he makes no effort to rise to his feet immediately; we do not know why.
5. Doctors, shocked at what they've witnessed, and not seeing Cintron rise to his feet immediately, assume the worst and call off the fight.

 

Yeah I'm not saying he jumped out on purpose. ::

I just take issue with this interview. If he was fine and wanted to fight, he sure didn't show it.

At the time, I thought he was really hurt because of the way he was just lying there.

 

I think he did jump on purpose, in order to avoid hitting Paul. It doesn't mean he meant to jump out of the ring - only that he meant to jump in order to avoid Williams, and other obstacles (like the ropes which could've tripped him and made his fall even worse).

 

I appreciate his unbiased opinions.

 

This is the crux of what I'm saying...how hurt was he? I don't know. All I know is he shouldn't have launched out of the ring like that.

Whenever crazy things happen I always drag my wife in to get her take (she hates boxing)...

When Abraham hit Dirrell first words out of her mouth, "I thought you couldn't hit a guy when he's down."

Upon seeing Cintron leave the ring in real time, "he just jumped out of the ring."

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While I understand Hitman's frustration, Cintron's past hurts him here...the Margarito fights...the martinez fight where he CLEARLY got hit with a shot to the jaw and faked a lowblow. Doesn't help Kermit.

 

ok - and i apologize for my rude demeanor - so are you guys insinuating that Cintron thought he was ahead, then took advantage of an awkward trip to launch himself thru the ropes, out of the ring and onto the table in order to fake an injury or cause an injury that would force him to be unable to continue and then claim a technical decision thru 3 rounds and 45 seconds of a match?

 

I like Cintron, mostly because outside of the ring, his choices and fight resume shows a guy who fights whoever is in front of him...sadly, he's got a flawed pedigree, he can panic a little when the going gets tough...I think he saw a chance to gain an advantage, rolled the dice and came out the loser..kind of like Nate Campbell against Bradley...its a shame because williams was far from figuring him out

 

yeah, it reminded me of that too.

 

Dammit!!!! The more I watch the fight the more I'm convinced Cintron could have knocked Williams the fuck out. What a fucking let down!

 

I disagree. We will never know for sure. Cintron was fighting a very good fight. This was the first time I was impressed with him. Williams was getting hit hard and in my honest opinion it was only a matter of time.

 

Yeah, too bad Clark Kent showed up instead of Superman when he launched himself out of the ring. :nono:

 

It's a huge let down for sure. Cintron should have at least tried to get up if he felt that he was ok. Unfortunately he decided to stay down and it cost him big. Shields has him boxing very well and I'm confident he would have ko'd Williams.

 

Cintron has good timing. If Cintron weren't a pussy, there was every reason to believe he would've landed big on Paul eventually.

 

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paul wallace seems like a weasel at times, but Id say he has more credibility than cintron at this point.

 

I still give Cintront he benefit of the doubt. Simply because he was in the fight prior to the incident.

I can understand a situation like Bradly - Campbell where Campbell was getting his ass kicked. Even though he wasn't known as a quitter you can make the argument.

With Williams and Cintron they were just starting to throw leather when the incident happened. Prior to that Cintron was boxing pretty good. He was looking better than I thought he would.

I also don't like Williams' claiming it was a legit win and he is moving on.

 

In Kermit's defense though I don't think he faked the headbutt thing against Martinez. When it initially happened I thought it was a headbutt and was surprised when the replay showed it was a punch. I think Kermit really did think it was a headbutt.

 

What's the possibility, of feeling like he was ahead in the fight, leaping out of the ring, claiming injury, and trying to steal it on the cards, why is this such an impossible scenario?...

 

Because it makes no damn sense whatsoever. He's going to risk being crippled by throwing himself out of the ring, onto a table with a steel monitor and then onto the floor, so he can grab a win in a meaningless fight?

Yeah that makes TOTAL sense. But then most people seem to think Cintron's an idiot so I guess most probably DO think that's what he'd do