Khan vs Alexander: Who wins this battle of eye cancers?

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  1. Irish

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    To do that, he would have to hold his feet, and that leaves him in place for a split second longer.

    We all know what can happen when he holds his feet for that moment longer.
     
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    true. It was still an impressive performance. Khan looks solid at the weight, very comfortable.
     
  3. Irish

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    I have not seen it. But I am with Cdogg in that Khan is such a boxer, he is like an element of the periodic table, you know exactly how he will react when combined with other elements in the same table.

    Khan is sodium. Throw him into water and he looks spectacular. Throw him in against chlorine and he turns into salt.
     
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    Did you see Andy Lee at all...that's the result that shocks me. He too is like Khan.

    Saunders won't provide any threat......two southpaws and Saunders don't have the power to do him.

    I really think Lee would destroy Eubank Jr......
     
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    Khan looked as expected last night. he'll probably get the Mayweather fight but honestly that's not what I want to see. Alexander had no answers. Was too short, too hesitant and didn't have enough firepower to hurt Khan. In many respects he was the perfect opponent for Khan to look good against.

    Khan showed some improvement in his footwork. I liked how he'd step around Alexander rather than back straight out consistently. Finally showed some semblance of boxing IQ. Virgil Hunter has done a good job with him in terms of getting him to stay out of exchanges. He still lunges in with his shots and squares up when he's coming forward throwing combinations but he's cut those instances down.

    I don't feel he's earned a shot at Mayweather based off the two fights at welterweight. Collazo hadn't been relevant in years and got the fight with Khan because he knocked out mental midget Victor Ortiz. I'd rather see some of the welterweights fight amongst each other first. Khan will most likely get the shot because of his draw in England.
     
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    You look at what Hatton went through to get the Mayweather fight. Now look at what Khan has done.

    That's where a lot of the aggro stems from.

    I think Floyd is a good way removed from being so old and tired that Khan's nonsense works.

    However, I do also think the fight will not happen.

    Floyd detests being dictated to, and Khans people will be screaming about the England money and their share thereof.
     
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    I saw the highlights. Lee landed a stunning shot to rock Korobov to his core. Saunders-Korobov was talked about but that won't happen now. Lee-Saunders could be made, perhaps GGG-Lee.

    I favour Lee over Eubank Jr too.
     
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    Khan can't beat any good puncher with a modicum of ability. See Khan Vs Garcia.

    Thurman CAN punch, and unless he just completely turtles up in the face of Khan's button mashing, he'd surely KO Khan at some point.
     
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    It almost was, Khan was hanging on for dear life around the end of the fight, and the fight was arguably a draw (for the record I do think Khan just about did enough for the decision).

    I think Maidana would stop him in a rematch.

    And have you seen Garcia Vs Khan? Garcia's power was definitely enough :kidcool:
     
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    I don't know who was saying it but the way to beat Khan is to throw with him. If you can do that you can land, and if you land you can win.
     
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    Yeah but Garcias power is his timing, balls to throw the shot.

    How many guys have the basic boxing IQ to do that....
     
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    That's absurd, and has nothing to do with it, at least not on Fightbeat. Shit, loads of people on Fightbeat love Hamed for some bizarre reason, and he really is an Arab.

    I've said many times, Khan has grown on me. I respect his heart and fighting spirit, and do find some of his fights quite entertaining. Especially when he does the baby deer jig of course.

    Fightbeat doesn't like Khan because he's a button mashing afleet, and he's pretty irritating out of the ring too.
     
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    Good point, the 2 biggest Khan haters are the least racist people here.
     
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    Sure, that's one way of winning, as Garcia did. He intelligently threw with Khan, sort of pre-empted counters.

    Sure. And I do feel Garcia is a better fighter than Thurman, and would probably beat him head to head.

    I don't think Thurman is amazing, but when I first saw him I was surprised, he looked a LOT better than the scrub people talked about on Fightbeat. And he can punch. As long as he doesn't turtle up like Judah did, he'll catch Khan with something big and stop him.
     
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    At least you acknowledge that they are partially racist.
     
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    Exactly.

    Khan can fight in his own weird way, but he's not a true elite fighter.

    Alexander is horrible at world level. I can't believe anyone thought this was a close fight. He lost to Shawn Porter ffs, in 1 sided fashion.

    So basically, this fight doesn't prove much. Khan would still get thrashed by Floyd and Pacquiao, still get KO'd again by Garcia, and would probably lose by stoppage in a Maidana rematch, or a match with Lucas or Thurman.
     
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    He won't rematch the guys that have beaten him or come close to beating him. He takes carefully tailored fights. He has always done it. He did it in the UK at 135 where the guys he fought were all 130lbrs. Minute he fought a big 135lbr he got iced.
     
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    Irish, don't forget though, that's only one way of beating Khan, to punch with him (with power of course).

    The other way is just to get in his face and beat him up, like Peterdude did in his half arsed impression of a pressure fighter.

    Even that was enough to beat Khan, you don't necessarily need to be a puncher.
     
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    I know. A volume dude with a chin would do him as well.

    The book has always been out on him.

    Yet somehow, despite never rematching any of his victors, and despite very careful management and tailored fights, he remains highly regarded.
     
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    Right so.

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    Khan is 'disliked' because he was blown out of all proportion before he'd done anything and it grated, hugely. The Kindelan farce was one aspect. The 'next Sugar Ray Leonard' shite from Bazza and Jim on ITV when he was going life and death with the likes of Willy Limond is another. The completely unwarranted move to PPV, after ITV had essentially built him from scratch, was yet one more (his subsequent humiliation in that bout amused nearly everyone and anyone). His obvious dislike and disrespect for Froch, which shows every time he is on SKY as an 'analyst', is probably the most grating thing about him at present, along with his hideous button-mashing style and the fact that he is as thick as fuck.

    None of that has anything to do with him being Muslim, Black, Pakistani or whatever the fuck else. The fact that JoM reckons he's read a few books doesn't change a thing or make his claims any less unfounded.

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    As it happens, I'm one of the few who doesn't mind Khan. I even carried a bandwagon in his name in my sig a few years back. He's crap but he has a proper fighting heart and a ton of guts - with the beatdowns he has had he could have easily walked away a very rich man but he doesn't, he comes back and he tries his best. No shame in that.

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    Yeah. No.
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    Adjust that for 'most left leaning white democrats' and 'most conservative white republicans' and you better believe the gap would widen on all of those.
     
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    Do you think Khan has a chance vs Floyd Mr. Feebes? i basically always saw Floyd fighting behind a high guard, walking Khan down, forcing him to lead and countering him to shit but i have to admit that Khan looked pretty good last night and if Floyd's reflex' have deteriorated much it might not be a strategy he can pull off any more.
     
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    His statement is so obviously wrong I didn't even have bothered trying to counter it. I half expect his justification to involve 'affirmative action' and other shite, but frankly, who gives a fuck?

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    None whatsoever. Honestly. Floyd is so much better than Khan that his slowing down with age shouldn't mean jack. I can't think of a single advantage Khan has other than height/reach (which he can only use in his clumsy, button mashing way) and youth. Unless Mayweather has gotten really, REALLY old, he would counter Khan to death and stop him inside eight rounds.

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    Precisely my sentiments.
     
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    He definitely seemed a bit slower on the trigger against Maidana.
     
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    Levels, my friend, levels. That's what it's all about in Floyd-Fencepost

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