Khan vs Alexander: Who wins this battle of eye cancers?

To be fair to the fencepost boxbot, I have no doubt at all that:

a. He really does want to fight Floyd; and
b. He thinks he can win the fight; and
c. He'll actually come to fight, throwing his daft straight punch combos for as long as his chin holds out.

MTF

 

A 38 year old boxer's level is dropping all the time though, and who knows how fast. If he keeps fighting long enough somebody with the right style, who nonetheless wouldn't have touched him 5 years ago, will cash in eventually innit

 

jaja. Itd be hard to begrudge him it too much either

 

Khan isn't the one for the job. I'm very confident about that.

MTF

 

Wow, that is high praise coming from you. You hate AK, Lord of Bolton, and his button mashing style.

I guess I need to check this fight out.

Do bear in mind though, this was against Alexander, who is horrible at world level, and was also recently beaten in 1 sided fashion but that scrub Porter.

 

Man, got off your fucking high horse. You see yourself as the boxing oracle because Khan just beat Devon fucking Alexander? ::

It was an obvious pick and Alexander is a scrub at world level. If Khan had just dominated Garcia, or Lucas or somewhat of that calibre, you'd have a point.

 

I have a sort of half baked existential philosophy I try to let guide me these days, mr. Mex - if you can reconcile yourself with the worst possible outcome, then yer free. That's all i'm trying to do here - look into the unimaginable abyss of that button mashing spastic having his arm raised against the best technician of his generation and steady my nerves.

 

Even i picked Khan to beat Alexander. Khan vs a cautious boxer with no major power is always an obvious pick.

 

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MTF

 

Khan beats Floyd

 

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Khan will absolutely go all out against Mayweather. He believes he can beat him. He doesn't lack balls. I still say he gets chopped up regardless... He fought well last night but he had a guy in front of him who was ideally suited to not exploiting his weaknesses... Of course I'm only saying this because I'm a racist, apparently

 

Although I think Thurman would eventually KO Khan, I think Khan does better against Mayweather or Pacquaio than Thurman does... Styles

 

Blatantly easy pick... I said it from the first that unless alexander went for broke and threw with khan in hopes of a lucky shot, he'd have no chance and I predicted he wouldn't have the gumption to do it... That's exactly what went down

 

The extra distance fighting a southpaw gives Khan helps him too i think in my mind

 

w/Out Question, Amir Khan Gets THE LEAST Amount of OBJECTIVE Criticism from Fightbeaters, as Compared to Other Current Fighters...

People Openly FELLATE Marcos Maidana, yet Khan Gets ZERO Credit for BEATING Him...Khan FOLDED Maidana Like Origami, w/a BODYSHOT & Took ALL Maidana Could Throw @ Him, w/Out 1nce Tasting the Canvas...Nonetheless, Khan Gets NO Credit for that WIN...Khan was Straight Up SCHOOLING Danny Garcia, Until a DESPERATION Left Hook Altered Fortunes...But Instead of just ADMITTING Khan was CLEARLY Getting the Better of the Action for 2 2/3 Rounds, People Act like it was All Part of Garcia's Grand Scheme, as if he BAITED Khan by CLEARLY Losing the First 2 Rounds & the Vast Majority of the 3rd...


Maidana, Garcia, Judah, Peterson, Kotelnik, Malignaggi, Collazo, Alexander, Barrera, Over the Span of 3 Weight Classes...Fightbeater's are Prematurely Ejaculating "Pound for Pound" Praise on HUNCH Fighters, Who Haven't Come Close to Facing the Level of Competition Khan Has....


Khan's CHIN Deserves All the Flack in the World...His 2 LEGIT Losses were the Result of SUAR Whiskers...But BEYOND that, Dudes Simply LACK the Ability to Critique Amir Khan OBJECTIVELY...







REED

 

It was clearly Garcia's strategy to punch with Khan, throwing hard shots and look to land a big counter. Nothing desperate or lucky about it.

 

Agreed. He was looking to land the counter left hook from round 1, and sure enough, eventually he landed it flush.

It was a 12 round fight, and Garcia's strategy paid off fairly quickly. It's of almost no relevance that Khan won the first couple of rounds.

 

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I have a propensity for the very same thing. Prepare for the worst, and if indeed the worst case scenario does play out, it won't seem as bad as it could ;)

Really though, I do think Floyd would have to be pretty much shot to lose to Khan.

 

So there we have it, all 3 of us Khan hating racists picked him to beat Alexander.

 

Mister REED is a knowledgeable chap but his REED on the Garcia fight is wrong. Garcia didn't 'ship' the first couple of rounds, he simply got caught cold by the speed of Khan's button mashing. He's hardly the first - Khan has quite a resume of early round KD's. By 3/4 the way through the third, Garcia had worked Khan out, though. He'd started countering very effectively and was landing the better shots at least half a minute before he timed him with the shot that turned Khan's glass chin into a glass neck. It was obvious from watching it live that the comms excitement over Khan's flurries was misplaced and that Danny had worked out what he needed to do to negate them.

There was nowt 'lucky' about Garcia turning Khan into Bambi again. Not to my mind, anyway. I agree re: Maidana, though. Khan legitimately won that fight - a fight many (me included) thought he would lose.

MTF

 

Agreed, I respect REED's boxing knowledge and agree with him on a lot of stuff, but I feel he's way off on his assessment of Garcia - Khan. He acts like Garcia was getting whitewashed and landed a desperate, lucky punch late in the fight, unable to win on points.

The truth is Khan button mashed his way to a couple of rounds as is commonplace, while Garcia warmed up and got his timing down.

You could see Garcia was looking to punch with Khan early on as Hut said, AND looking for that meaty counter left hook - and sure enough it landed soon enough, several times.

 

We all have our biases - Mr.REED's is a propensity to misunderestimate aspects of skill and strategy that aren't based on speed. My bias is basically precisely the opposite.

 

I hated Hamed because I thought he was a farce. His fans all seem to have a WWE characteristic to them as well. many of them were new to boxing or knew very little about the sport. he was beating up a B list of older ex champs but he passed up his mandatory four times (it was JM Marquez.) I thought he was a fake who would be exposed as soon as he fought an A list fighter and that happened with Barrera.

Fightbeat turned me into a Khan fan more than anything. He gets a shitload of ridiculous comments on here that make me wonder if people actually watch his fights. It's like the Maidana, Judah, and Malignaggi victories never happned. The fight last night never happened. WE all know he has a bad chin. That's one thing but he gets absolutley NO credit for anything he does.

 

I think in here you guys concentrate way too much on REED's take of Khan vs Garcia, even though the point of the post was Khan's resume and IMO mr REED was spot on with it

 

in allot of these things there isn't as much difference in how posters actually rate righters as you'd imagine from the rhetoric and focus. I think if me & REED got to the bottom of where we rated Khan, who we think he might beat and not beat today and historically we wouldn't be that far apart. Ditto with me and, say, Feebes over Calzaghe. When i say he sucks i basically just mean i hate him and his gay, mindless style, it isn't really a comment on whether i think he can fight or his resume or anything like that. I think Clogg's the same.

 

That's another reason I started liking Khan. He's the opposite of Hamed.

 

Khan's resume is thinner than it looks. Barerra was BEYOND shot when Khan shoeshined him. Ditto the remnants of Zab. Peterdude (who beat Khan) has serious limitations which were shown when he fought Matty Ice. Garcia blasted Khan out. Collazo is an okay sort but Khan beat a 33 year old version EIGHT years removed from the guy who gave Hatton problems.

Alexander was a good performance and a solid win. Kotelnik was always underrated and Khan's win was a good one. Paulie is made to measure for Khan (no power, flashy sort with less speed and range than Amir) but he dealt with him well. The Maidana win is probably his best career performance and win - a legit victory over the kind of feared puncher/brawler Khan is supposed to always lose against.

That's a solid sort of resume. It's hardly fantastic.

MTF

 

Hut once rightly said that Calzaghe was 'an all time great fighter'. Underneath the rhetoric, Hut is a knowledgeable sort.

MTF

 

Suuuuuure, he PLANNED on Being SCHOOLED for 2 2/3 Rounds, Setting a TRAP for Khan...Then, He BRILLIANTLY Looked Downward & Craned his Neck to the Right, as he Fired the Shot that Shattered Khan's Glass NECK:scared:...


When You Fire/Land a WILD Haymaker, w/Out Sooooo Much as LOOKING @ your Intended Target, that's a DESPERATION Shot...Sure, Garcia's Strategy was to Punch WITH Khan, Which Takes COURAGE...But he was Clearly Getting WORKED by Khan, Up Until BLINDLY Landing the Shot to Khan's Neck...There Was NO SCIENCE or BAITING Involved...


Instead, It was Very Much like a Little Kid FLAILING AWAY as Big Brother Pursues Him, Then DROPPING Him w/a Shot he DOESN'T Even See Land...







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