Agreed. I was just thinking to myself, it was foolish of us all to think Khan would beat Algiers as easily as Pacquiao did, styles or no styles. I knew he wouldn't stop Algiers, but I thought he'd win almost every round. Basically, Khan is nowhere near as good as Pacquiao, 2 different levels of fighter. Even today's old Floyd and tepid Pacquiao would eat Khan for breakfast in 1 sided fights.
They really, really are. Simply the worst commentators I've ever heard, I try to avoid Sky broadcasts especially at all costs.
One thing I was right about though is to not get all excited over Khan beating 2 scrubs at welter, and as soon as he fights a decent, solid welter, he'll look like the same old shitty Khan and lose. It turns out Algiers was that solid enough welter :: Floyd Vs Khan is a joke fight, it would be absurd if that was Floyd's "last" fight.
You have to give Algieri credit for the game plan. Alexander thought he could out-bore Khan the way he does to almost everybody. With Khan you have to act like you're Mike Tyson and that works even for the most feather-fisted people.
I think it was Mark Twain who said "Give a man a reputation as an early riser and that man can sleep till noon". For years, Magic Johnson was scared about appearing in public close to Amir Khan, he didn't want to look small. ::
Pretty much....and I think JD Jackson might just be one of the best coaches out there right now. I wasn't impressed with Hunter last night...shouting at Khan and telling him bullshit like "get refined on the inside" or some shit like that.
"Quit being mild on the inside"....was the actual Hunter quote. The problem was that Agieri is such an angular broad dude, especially compared to Khan, that it's like fighting a collection of fishing rods up close. Khan was getting bumped off and finding it hard to get any work done in there.
Agreed 100% on how to beat Khan, you don't even necessarily need power. Alexander is just a scrub at world level, so no surprise he didn't have a clue how to fight Khan. Not sure how much credit French Algiers deserves for the plan though, I mean it's just so obvious all you have to do is get in there beat Khan up, not let him use his range/speed. Peterdude is a pretty average fighter at world level, and even he was clued up enough to actually beat Khan by doing a homeless man's pressure fighter impression.
Did everybody score this for khan. The german forum I post in all had Algieri in front 116:112 or 115:113 and one draw...
Hopefully the Khan brigade will finally shut up now about him being underrated and having a good shot at beating Floyd ::
I was one of them... not beating him, but boxbotting him for a few rounds since I don't think Floyd will change his tactics for this fight. Actually I was just shocked that a lot of people thought he would KO Algieri because of "styles". In what world does Amir Khan have a better style than Pacquiao to KO anybody??? That's outrageous. The Khan on points odds dropped quite a bit after coming out. So a lot of people thought like I did. I actually thought Khan would win without controversion on points, maybe dropping Algieri once but Algieri in no real trouble.
TBH I didn't even think he'd drop Algiers, he can't punch. For some bizarre reason some people still think Khan is a puncher of sorts. He stings guys with handspeed/accuracy, but that's it, there's no real meat on the shots. But I did think Khan had the style to just outwork and button mash Algiers to a 1 sided decision. I overrated Khan.
Algieri does deserve credit. Consider that Khan easily beat Judah, Alexander, Malignaggi and Collazo. Algieri obviously can't punch, but the word on Khan has always been that it's his chin... that's his weakness....so Algieri went in there, and although he couldn't exploit that weakness, he managed to win, imo, and make it close in the very least. He deserves credit for that. Algieri obviously knows how to box....and it seems like he's getting better...
Khan vs Broner would have been an interesting fight. If nothing else, Broner does hit harder than the yuppie scrub.
He deserves credit for arguably winning, without a doubt - as the styles DID favour Khan on paper, and Algieri was cherry picked because he can't punch, and isn't a pressure fighter. My point was he doesn't deserve credit for the gameplan of taking the fight to Khan, it's not exactly a genius plan, it's the obvious way to beat Khan especially if you can't punch.
Algieri ' s height and reach certainly played a factor but besides, Algieri used his jab to good effect, showed good timing, and was landing well to the body....too bad he never landed another like that first shot that nearly put Khan down....
Broner cannot punch for shit, at 147....his only chance is to get Khan down to a catch of 144 or so, even then, he's not as big or as focused as the Moroccan.
They're both shit, so who really cares? I went from favoring Broner, then to favoring Khan. At this point, I'd say it's a 50-50 fight.
Just rewatched it and I think the Yuppie scrub took it. 7-5 rounds type score. He landed the more effective shots and brought the fight to Khan, hurting him a couple of times... Khan really showed nothing. Where was his "great" jab? Where was his "improved" defense? For a guy who in his own mind the guy that we the boxing community want to see against Floyd, he shows very little in terms of skill and ring IQ. And even his hand speed wasn't all that impressive. By the 4th round, his punches had already lost speed and snap. He's fortunate Algieri can't punch. So what has Virgil Hunter exactly improved in Khan? :scratcher:
I thought his speed may give PBF problems. I also thought it may be a good fight, because PBF may choose to actually "fight" against him. I still think he's fast, but apart from that, he's rubbish, & speed alone ain't gonna give PBF too many problems.
I still think he makes for the most competitive fight out there right now with Floyd, and would not be at all surprised if he beat him. That was a fired up Algieri who showed up, and he did better than expected by fighting out of character. Khan still beat him anyway, I had it 116-112. There is a reason Khan has been calling out Mayweather Jr, and not Pacquiao. Mayweather Jr is not going to jump in Khan's face. He will not fight aggressively. He's going to be considerably more careful than Algieri was, and Khan will be able to take some rounds until he gets timed. No reason for Floyd to fight Brook, no one in the US knows who the hell Brook is.
In a normal world, we could say with confidence that Khan does not deserve a fight with Mayweather, if it weren't for the fact that Mayweather has engaged in some seriously disgusting matchmaking himself.