Klitschko vs Brewster ***SPOILERS***

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Wlad fought intelligently, it's not his fault that he has skills.

 

I agree, when did I complain about Wlad's performance?:dunno:

The fight overrall wasn't exciting, that is all. Where you at the edge of your seat during the fight? ::

 

Yep. Just finished watching the fight and that's the exact impression i got.

 

That's interesting...not something I'd heard elsewhere.

I think about with Rahman would a moderately bigger fight and draw a lot more media attention from the states than the other fighters listed.

I'm sure something can be made about the fact the fight should've taken place years ago...and there will undoubtedly be assertions made that Vitali is cherry-picking by fighting him now.::

I'd rather Rahman fight Vitali than Wladimir...hopefully Rock's poor performance against Sykes coolled any talk of that fight.

Minto shouldn't be anywhere near the list.

 

I believe if Peter destroys Maskaev as most are expecting, there's going to be hype for a Wlad/Peter 2 in a WBC/IBF unification.

 

I´m just repeating what Vitali said. He said nothing is official and they´ll soon make the announcement and it will be somebody well known in Germany and a bigger opponent than expected/McCline. So Minto is well-known for his "wins" over Schulz and Krasniqi, McCall is the WBC NO.1 challenger and fairly well-known. He also called Vitali out after his fight with Sam. Rahman would make sense given how washed-up Rahman looked and people saying he is scared of Rahman.

 

That "well known in Germany" part makes it interesting. I would think, though, that if it's "bigger" than McCline it would have to be someone better than Minto.

Valuev would certainly be bigger.

 

:bears: :bears:

 

Yep.

 

dsimon writes:

Who wins it?

 

Peter by ten count KO if the ref dosen't wave his arms calling the fight off before then.
It ends with Oleg on the canvas, not knowing where or who he is.

 

I think he meant who wins in Peter/Wlad II

 

dsimon writes:

Thanks Sec. Correct.

 

Wlad easy again. Peter is nothing but chin and decent power. Wlad schools him again and this time maybe even stops him late

 

Wlad, at 6"7, 245 lbs, has a shorter reach, than Margarito's next opponent.

 

Brewster sucks ...

A 98 year old Holyfield would have performed better and atleast tried harder ...
With fighters like Brewster , now we know why Holyfield is still around.

 

Why not Brewster vs Holyfield?:dunno:

 

"Wladimir proved that three years ago he lost to Brewster due to an outside influence"- Shitali

http://www.fightnews.com/1437.htm

 

dsimon writes:

The division sucks right now. Brewster is just another fringe guy. How the hell he expected Mcgirt to prepare him for Klitschko is beyond me. He was not in any way prepared to deal with a jab in that fight. Some training:doh:.

 

But are you suggesting Holyfield is anything other than a fringe guy, himself?

Brewster was a champion a lot more recently than Holyfield, and while he was coming off an eye injury and a layoff, he's yet to be suspended by a commission for a lack of competitiveness.

 

dsimon writes:

I ain't comparing Brewster to Holyfield, but they are both part of a sucky division where nobody can really challenge Klitschko accept maybe Peter. Thagt is the only good fight for the Klit.

 

You're putting a lot of faith in a fighter that clearly lost nine rounds to Klitschko when they met.

To get to Wladimir, he will likely have to beat Maskaev and then Vitali (unless VK loses in the interim) so that would probably be at least 12 months away...likely more.

I think Povetkin is the truest test for him down the line, but he isn't ready for that fight yet.

Chagaev could pose some problems, because of how compact he is but he has to be able to get close and hit the body.

 

Will this B YOUR Excuse if Margarito LOSES???...

"but,But,BUT....He was Facing a Guy w/HEAVYWEIGHT Reach!!!"...


REED:crafty:

 

dsimon writes:

Peter like Vlad has gotten better. Vlad is more confident because of Stewart (if nothing else) Peter learned something that apparently 99 percent of us could have told him... namely that if he really prepares for a fight by training properly he is quite talented.

Frankly Mitchell people make a lot of fuss about Vlad, but look at Peter! whatever one thinks of Toney the diference between the first fight and the second was huge for Peter! And unlike most of the other guys Peter has hung with the German Robot::.

There is nobody whom I can see in the division right now who could give Vlad a problem. Povetkin?:: his hame just started to really get out there as a prospect. Give the kid some time before throwing him in there or he will take a career ending beating.

The one other guy is MCcall. If by some miracle MCcall could keep his shit together he is so talented a puncher that I could see him catching Vlad like he caught Lewis.

 

Knup, :cheer: there's no excuses, NONE, I don't believe in them, his training camp has been great, he is injury free, he's in his prime, and he's beaten opponents larger than himself before. The best version of Margarito would still struggle badly against Clottey, due to his solid, and more importantly LEGAL defence. I'm not one prone to making excuses and this accusation is just a bracing concoction of yours, and it shows through, while you cross your fingers and pray desperately, that a fan friendly fighter, with a pleasing style, and mild temperament, is beaten, for the sake of the reputation of a narcisstic sociopathic piece of shit who was visibly intimidated when confronted about fighting Margarito for the press and messageboards to see, and a fighter who you can only relate to on a 'symbolic' racial level, and not on a characteristical one, unless you're deliberately bending principle ethics in a state of sadness induced mania... :stir: ?...I do realise how devistating a loss is to your garden variety 'Jones fan who morphed into a Fraud fan', but to me, it's all about the integrity of the fighter, if Margarito goes out there, and has his title stolen by way of jabs and sprints, I'm not vunerable to humiliation whatsoever, it's an unfortunate incident, but no reason to vanish, he still wanted to come forward and make the fight, and entertain his supporters, infact, he announces at every oppurtunity the importance of performing for his fans, so there is no reason for me to flee to the next available equivalent, the only time I'd be devistated is if Margarito some how betrayed his fans by fighting like a bitch, and then telling us to go fuck ourselves, because we apparently know nothing about boxing? :dunno: ,..(you wouldn't hav experienced anything like that with your boy though would you? :stir:),..I just wonder Reed, about the absence of dignity, in a Fraud fan, trying to interperate to the rest of the forum "what Floyd REALLY means",...OR....fingerpointing and blaming everybody else for his actions,...why doesn't this pitiful, satanist clan, just accept that a bitch is a bitch, and psychopathy is incureable?...:crafty: ..

:nono: Now in regards to the reach, even without an agenda, it's an extraordinary fact, I'm looking through a list of heavyweights right now, and ONLY VALUEV, is documented to have a longer reach than Paul Williams :eeeek: , so it's NOT just your average heavyweight reach, he's well above average, and that's supposedly UNTHINKABLE for an incey wincey 'welterweight',..

 

I do agree Klitschko is more confident, but I think he's also more relaxed and comfortable in it. As Steward has consistently said since the beginning of his time with Klitschko, he's had him sparring a lot more rounds, I think he's more durable because of it.

The difference in Peter would have to be huge, because he should have lost the first fight. But it was clear that Toney was rapidly declining, and he took a lot more clean punches int he first fight than even I was expecting...I think he's completely used up now...watching his last fight in San Jose was like watching a different fighter...and that's one fight (and four months) removed from the Peter rematch.

It will take more than that to convince me Peter has seriously improved. One area he should improve is body punching...it's consistently the most available target that Klitschko gives opponents...and Peter will struggle to land anything upstairs (outside of the moments right before/during/after clinches).

I said Povetkin wasn't ready yet, but he's had the attention of a lot of people from the time he debuted after the Olympics (which took months to finally happen). When he's ready, believe me it won't be a career ending beating...(I don't think it would be that way now, btw).