LEFT HOOK - Boxing's DEADLIEST Punch....

Im pretty happy with my description. I think everyone should just listen to me, submit to a Pax-HutHutana and begin reintegration & trade.:Thumbs:

 

If it DOESN'T CROSS @ or Before the Point of Contact it AIN'T a "Cross"...Again, a "Cross" Actually CROSSES....




REED:mj:

 

That logic only applies if the head is nestled in a guys chest.

How long is this argument gonna go on for, I wonder.opcorn:

 

This empire shall grow great, tributary.

 

It's going to go on until REED fucking admits he's wrong, and stops dissecting everyone else's interpretation of the punch, when in fact, it was he who started the thread.

There's punches thrown with the lead hand:
-right/left jab
-right/left left-hook

And there's punches thrown with the rear hand:
-right/left hand lead
-right/left
-----looping
-----over-hand
-----blah blah blah

According to REED, if a fighter sits down on his jab, it's not a jab, but a, "power-punch."

 

vs

FIGHT!!!!

 

What's Comical is that NOBODY Has agREED w/YOUR Interpretation of the Punch, yet YOU'RE Talking the MOST Shit...Your DRUNKEN "Keen Eye" Saw a "Straight Left", Yet NOT Even 1 Other Person has agREED...

If ANYBODY Needs to Admit to Being Wrong, it's YOU....



REED:kidcool:

 

Hah! A left-hand is a left-hand. Just get over the fact you look stupid. Made a stupid thread.

By the way, what was the punch that Martinez knocked Cintron down with? You know, the one that Cintron thought was a head-butt?

 

C'mon.....

Again, a rear hook does exist, although fairly rare. REED is right. This just wasn't one.

Which was an understandable mistake to make on first examination given the unusual aspects of this punch. Though perhaps he should probably stop being so stubborn & admit his mistake at this point.

 

I disagree. I think a hook by definition is thrown with the lead hand, and though I"ve tried I can't remember anyone ever calling a punch, a "lead left-hook." In my mind, and I guess this is pivotal to the debate, that'd be like saying, "a lead left jab." It'd be completely redundant, like saying wet water.

 

YOU Referred to the Shot as "a STRAIGHT Left Hand", yet it's REED that Looks Stupid???...



REED:scratcher:

 

OK then a 'roundhouse' rear punch exists then. Which is just a hook under a different name thrown with your rear hand. It has all the same mechanics as a hook except thrown with the rear hand. The punch is short, the elbow is arced from the beginning the weight transfers from the hand of the punch to the opposing hand as you pivot on that foot. I would call it a right/left hook because 'roundhouse' sounds like something John Wayne would throw or a commentator in a PS2 Rocky title might spout.

That we're debating such petty semantics on page 7 really qualifies this thread for the hall of shame.

 

Nino Brown

This horse thing is sooooooo 2007...and it was used by idiots like Jaws and TFK. Why would you condescend yourself to follow in their footsteps. It's not even original to you. Who's more foolish: the fool or the fool who follows him? Why do you think that

a) You bringing it up now would bother me in the least and
b) It makes YOU look anything more than an immature idiot

You've owned yourself with this.

Also..if you think you're good looking...you need a new mirror..and if you think you're even half as good looking as me, you need therapy. :giggle: Like I said..put us side by side and ask 100 women...99 would say I'm better looking and the 1 would be your "momz"!

Anyway...I'm tired of the smacktalk on this forum...so I'll let you get the last word on this. Back to boxing.

Admit you didn't know the difference between an overhand left cross and a "left hook". Just admit it. We all make mistakes.

 

For the umpteenth time...it's not a hook you know nothing fuck..

 

I wouldn't say so. A punch thrown with the rear hand will necessarily have different mechanics than one thrown with the lead hand, which accounts for punches above all else being classified by the hand with which they're thrown, relative to the stance.

It is a silly debate, but I think you'd agree there is value in having a consistent and logical frame-work in which to classify punches, in this case a hierarchial one in my view, with the hand, relative to the stance, being first and foremost.

 

It was a beautiful move. Not to sound like an old timer groupie, but I've heard it said that that type of move - stepping in the direction of your shot like that is an aspect of boxing footwork which has gotten lost in the last few decades. Now guys are taught to step out first to create space for a shot rather than stepping across and in with it. I think it was somebody analysing the footwork of Carlos Ortiz made the point that it was something he did consistently, especially with the left hook. (i actually think many aspects of Martinez style echo Charley Burley, personally)

It was a weird punch, it's wholly understandable to ID it as a hook on first glance, I i did myself.

 

It's UNDOUBTEDLY an overhand left. It wasn't thrown as a hook AT ALL. Nino Brown better learn what the different punches are before he embarrasses himself publicly on one of his promotions.

 

It's not a cross either. You guys would go to the blankets over a missing cat.:giggle:

 

It's an overhand cross.

REED thought it was a hook because his arm was bent at one point. Dumb Dumb. Even a jab starts off with the arm bent. Anyway..an overhand cross has more of an arc than a straight cross...but it's still not a "hook". A hook is thrown with a quarter circle arc, the motion of which is perpendicular to the body. This was NO WHERE NEAR that type of punch.

 

I think most people had some doubt on the first few watches. It ends up looking like a hook because of their relative position which the shot lands due to the way Martinez steps out from it. The punch lands SHORT and with a BENT ARM. Like a hook. On first glance it looks like a hook.

It just wasn't in this instance.

 

Whether it's Soooo 2007 or Not, You're STILL EASILY Rattled & Quite PERTURBED about the "Horse" Thing....Instead of Figuratively "Pushing your Buttons" a Poster can LITERALLY Fuck w/YOUR Head by Mere Mention of Horses...How Mentally WEAK Are You???....

Just a Couple Months Ago U were CRYING to the Mods about the Horse Line of Humor & How it BOTHERED YOU that Topics & Discussions were Hijacked as a Result...Your Bitch Ass has Spoken AT LENGTH about How the Horse Shit BOTHERS You, so SPARE REED the Act...

REED has Posted PLENTY of Pics on this Site...Take a Pic of YOUR Choosing & Quiz 100 Women...You'll Come Out on the ASS End of that Comparison the Majority of the Time...Unless U Run Across Broads that Dig TOOTHY, Mr. Ed Smiles...& REED Won't even Get Into that GAY Ass Lennox Lewis Accent U Have....

REED Initially Called the Punch a "Looping Left Hook"...In this Thread, REED Altered that to an "Overhand Left Hook"...t WAS NOT a Cross Though, Because it NEVER CROSSED....



REED:kidcool:

 

REEDS point about it not crossing his body is fair. It didn't cross the body. It's not a conventional cross.

But it's clearly an overhand left. Arguing about whether to call it a 'cross' or not....or whether to call a hypothetical short, arched arm rear punch a 'hook' or 'roundhouse' are at this stage arguments so fucking stupid we should all just agree to disagree on them::

 

REED has No Problems Agreeing to DISagree, but then there's "Mr. STRAIGHT LEFT" Double L & "Mr. Left CROSS" STIFFord, Actually Calling REED "Stupid" & Questioning HIS Analysis of Punches, for Considering it a Hook of Sorts....

Go Figure...

REED:mj:

 

Fuck sake, Im out this thread now. E-feud away, lads.

 

Hut's just going easy on you because he's a nice guy. He knows it's not a hook...as does everyone else.

But it's all good REED. I too shall just agree to disagree. I've said enough on this matter.

 

I'm out too. Where are you going? We'll hang out and grab a beer...