Lennox Lewis's legacy

No NO! 'Gay' means 'glad' where I come from!

 

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Oh ok. Well in that case, all is fine.:clap:

 

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Larry Holmes lost to a lt. heavyweight twice. Tyson knocked both of them out. Holmes was out of his prime whatever but to say Tyson fought only bums is just ignorant.

He was a great champion then he went to prison for rape. When he got out he wasn't so good anymore.

 

How would you rate Tim Witherspoon's chin?

 

Lewis should've raped some women, killed some guys in a bar, beat up a cop maybe, then he'd be my all-time hero for sure! :clap: Unfortunately, he was too boring and civilized.

 

List the fighters that Lewis beat that have a better resume than Ruiz and Byrd and were at least close to their primes(as both Ruiz and Byrd were when they wanted to fight Lewis) when Lewis beat them.

 

Damn, a lot of people took the bait. ::

 

Tyson vs Lewis would have been much different depending on when the fight takes place.

Had they fought in 88 then Tyson destroys him.

Had they fought in 92 then I favor Tyson because he had a much better chin and experience at the time. Remember Lewis was wild and off balance back then. No doubt both fighters would have landed hard shots and Tyson had the chin to withstand it while Lewis not so much.

Had they fought in 96 then Lewis is the favorite. He was in his prime then and was moving and boxing great with a lot of power in the right hand and a new found left hook. This fight would have been a lot more competitive than what happened in 2002. Tyson has a good chance to win this by catching Lewis with a big shot. Lewis is favored here but very close.

In 2002 Tyson was not even able to land on Lewis. Lewis landed everything including the kitchen sink on Tyson and the fight still went to round 8. Brutal beat down but it just shows how much of Lewis's shots Tyson can absorb. Tyson landing like that on Lewis is another story and the fight does not go 2 rounds.

 

you will be hearing from my lawyer

 

some of the Lemmon cock riders like to deny he ducked Byrd and Ruiz saying "he'd beat them anyway"

look at Ruiz-Holy fights..

look at Lemmon-Holy fights.

all 3 guys could compete with each other but little Lemmon Loser ducked Ruiz and he OPENLY ducked Byrd cuz Byrd would school him like he was his daddy

 

Here's a better idea. You tell me how many of the following would have had a PRAYER of beating Lennox Lewis:

Sergei Kobozev
Danell Nicholson
David Tua

Answer- None. Yet these are the guys who beat Ruiz whilst he was in his alleged 'Prime'. And this is before you factor in the loss and draw to Holyfield (2 years after Lennox beat him twice, despite what the judges say) and the loss to Roy Jones Jr, a HOF 160/168lb fighter.

As to Byrd, here is a list of the AWESOME fighters he beat prior to losing to Ike:

Ross Puritty
Elieser Castillo
Derek Amos
Jimmy Thunder
Frankie Swindell
Bert Cooper
Craig Petersen
Levi Billups
Uriah Grant
Biko Botowamungu
Lionel Butler
Jeff Wooden
Phil Jackson
Nathaniel Fitch
Tim Puller
Arthur Williams
Joel Humm
Mike Rouse
Frankie Hines
Ron Gullette
Waxxen Fikes
Max Key
Gerard O'Neal
Exum Speight
Mike Sullivan
Gary Smith

Oh yes, that resume PISSES all over Lennox Lewis's.

Only three of these fighters: Thunder, Purrity and Butler are of any quality whatsoever. The rest are utter, utter bums. Compare that to Lewis's resume:

Razor Ruddock
Tyrell Biggs
Tony Tucker
Frank Bruno
Oliver McCall
Tommy Morrison
Shannon Briggs
Evander Holyfield
Mike Tyson
Vitali Klitschko

A case could easily be argued that THIS lot are better than all of those 'names' on Byrd's resume:

Hasim Rahman
Francois Botha
Michael Grant
Andrew Golota
Henry Akinwande (though Thunder beat him)
Ray Mercer

But, yeah, okay, Lewis has a poor resume compared to Byrd, and was obviously scared of him. Like he was scared of Bowe... :laughing:

MTF

 

Err, Lewis was an Ammy in 1988. He was busy beating your boy Bowe around about this time.

Lewis wasn't even champion at this time. He was still learning his trade- he was a novice.

This is around the time Tyson PAID Lennox millions of bucks to 'step-aside' so he could beat Holyfield. Oops...

Obviously, Mike paid Lewis off because he was very confident of beating Lennox...

'Brutal beatdown' sums things up nicely. Lewis absolutely played with this version of Tyson.

MTF

 

:clap: Good. I'll photoshop him too! Nah, remember that time when you went nuts LOK after that picture I made of you and FourHooks f*cking on a picnic table? :: I liked your threat then too. "I have formally asked you before to stop photoshopping my pics but you refuse to obey and one way or another you will pay, cease and desist!"
:eeeek: That put some fear into me for a bit.

 

Lewis was winning gold in the Olympics in '88. He was still an amateur then.

 

Holyfield>Lewis by chin and work ethic

 

You do know they fought a couple of times... :dunno:

 

List a so-called heavyweight "champion" who managed to get embarrassed TWICE in one-sided fashion by former Middleweight champs.

List a so-called heavyweight "champion" who couldn't beat Danell Nicholson.

List a so-called heavyweight "champion" who managed to get KOed by David Tua in about the same number of seconds it took me to write this sentence.

List a so-called heavyweight "champions" who celebrated after having a "title" saved by a bogus Draw against Holyfield.

List a so-called heavyweight "champion" who needed gift decisions to "beat" McCline, Oquendo & GOlata.

List a so-called heavyweight "champion" who was getting his ass handed to him by Vitali Klitschko and lucked out when Vitali was injured and could not continue.

List a so-called heavyweight "champion" who was embarrassed not once, but twice by Wlad Klitschko.

 

Sure...but, Lennox was still near his peak, while Holyfield was not.

That would be like saying Oscar is better than Whitaker.

 

Holy was still good enough to beat Tyson in and around that same period.

It's irrelevant in any case. No version of Holyfield would have beaten Lennox. Not one. PRIME HW Holy went life and death with Bowe, who in turn shit his pants at the very thought of fighting Lennox. Bowe chose to fight Holy THREE TIMES rather than fight Lennox.

Bowe and Holy were pretty evenly matched. And Lewis had one throwing his belt in the bin and another beaten twice in the ring.

 

Word... :bears:

 

at any kind of Tyson logic

Maybe, maybe not. Lewis had physical gifts that Holyfield did not, but he also lacked the heart, chin, and work ethic of Evander. Also, I'm not Riddick Bowe so I have no way of saying whether or not he was afraid to fight Lennox. What I do know is that there was much more money in fighting Evander than there was Lennox.

 

"In a move that would hurt Bowe's image, he held a press conference and dumped the WBC belt in a bin rather than fight Lewis."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riddick_Bowe

"The world heavyweight champion, RIDDICK BOWE, has been offered $12 million to defend his title against LENNOX LEWIS of Britain in a bout next April in England. FRANK MALONEY, Lewis's manager, said he sent the offer on Tuesday to Bowe's manager, ROCK NEWMAN."

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E0CE4D8113FF93AA25752C1A964958260

"That changed when he knocked out Razor Ruddock in two rounds at London's Earls Court in 1992 and was subsequently awarded the WBC title. American rival and undisputed champ Riddick Bowe vacated the WBC belt rather than meet Lewis in a mandatory match. Thus, Lewis became England's first heavyweight king since Bob Fitzsimmons in 1899"

http://www.ibhof.com/brithvy.htm

Bowe may well have gotten more money to fight Holy, but 12 million for a mandatory defence was turned down and a belt thrown in a bin, live on TV. I'm not Bowe either, but 2+2 still makes 4, last time I checked...

 

I know. I remember watching the press conference live, and I too think that Bowe did not want to fight Lennox. But, I have no way of being sure.

Just like there is no clear cut way to define who is better between Holyfield and Lewis. You obviously have the distinct advantage of having two head to head matches in which Lennox should officially be 2-0, but even if they both were at their respective best it is still only one factor in the equation.

 

maybe not live

 

you lemmon lovers are a trip!

it's not like you can look at Byrd and Lemmons resume and pretend it would be silly that lemmon was scared..

Manny stated publically that they DID NOT WANT to fight BYRD.. ::

Lemmon ducked him

Bowe threw the belt in the trash to do disagreements with the WBO and Bowe was offereed more to fight Holy who was "the real deall" the amature fight plays no part.. jose Luis also beat Bowe in the AM's so what? Bowe was Big Daddy and Lemmon was a gay faggot. no one cared about him.

 

U KNOW REED Looooooooooves ya, Brother LOK, but U're CRAZY if U Think Lennox "Ducked" Chris Byrd, Dog...

NOBODY "Ducks" Chris Byrd...

If Anything, Manny Probably Said what he Said Cause STYLISTICALLY, he Knew the Fight would B UGLY...It's NOT like Byrd was Gonna Get N 2 Exchanges w/Lennox...

Lennox would've Either SMOKED Byrd as Bad or WORSE than Wlad did OR Byrd would've EMBARASSED Himself by RUNNING from Lennox for 12 Rounds....

Either Way, it WOULDN'T have Done Much for Lennox's Resume...

REED Can't Sit Here & HONESTLY Say that Lennox's Career SUFFERED Cause he DIDN'T Fight Byrd or Ruiz:: ...

& Riddick Bowe CLEARLY Ducked Lennox Lewis...There was a 4 Way AGREEMENT btwn Lennox-Ruddock-Bowe-Holyfield that the WINNERS would Face Each Other IMMEDIATELY...

Lennox Won, Bowe Won, then Bowe Elected to Dump the Belt & Take SAFER Fights w/Ferguson, Dokes & the RE w/Holyfield...




REED

 

Holyfield was a P4P fighter when they first fought and a massive betting favourite. Holyfield was the same Holyfield that couldn't beat Moorer 5 years before; never as good as advertised.

 

:: :laughing: