Let's move on: Canelo vs. GGG the BUILD UP....

"We haven't spoken with Golden Boy but we are ready to fight. Canelo faced Cotto, who is great fighter. That was a good step and I don't see why we can not face GGG," - trainer told ESPN Deports.

"But from now we are not gonna move from 155-pounds. We are quite comfortable at this weight and it suits us. We are not inventing a new division, it's just part of business and everyone looks for what suits them, and whoever wants to fight with Saul will have to come down or go up."

 

I think golovkin is excellent, way more skilled and legit of a fighter than alvarez.

Bottom line is alvarez has the fan base and the leverage and if golovkin and his team want the fight they need to beND over backwards and make it happen. Refusing 155 is ridiculous. He'll still kill the kid

 

I can think of one guy.....

 

Rigondeaux?

 

I mean realistically. Your boring hero is retired.

 

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ovkin-doubleheader-advocated-by-wbc-president

[h=1]Canelo Alvarez vs. Gennady Golovkin Doubleheader Advocated by WBC President[/h][h=4]<address class="article_author-info" itemscope="" itemtype="http://schema.org/Person" style="margin: 0px 0px 5px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; font-size: 16px; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background: 0px 0px;">By Matt Jones, Featured Columnist </address><time class="article_timestamp" itemprop="datePublished" data-updated_at="1448540848" style="display: inline; margin-left: 5px; color: rgb(158, 158, 158);">Nov 26, 2015</time>[/h]

WBC president Mauricio Sulaiman wants to see the governing body's new middleweight champion Saul “Canelo” Alvarez and WBA, IBO and IBF titleholder Gennady “GGG” Golovkin on the same bill on Cinco De Mayo weekend 2016, but not necessarily fighting each other yet.
Canelo’s impressive win over Miguel Cotto last weekend means he’ll have to face a mandatory challenge for the WBC strap from the unbeaten Kazakh, who dismantled David Lemieux in his previous outing. However, Sulaiman thinks it’s important to build momentum for both fighters prior to pitting them against one another, per Jose Luis Camarillo of BoxingScene.com:

 

lets see Alvarez vs Andy Lee at 155lbs and Golovkin vs Antoine Douglas

 

Canelo vs Wald Pussy on that card. Coming into the ring, Wald will only have maybe 10 pounds on the Ginger.

 

While GGG is not a particularly big middleweight I'm not sure that he can make 155 without it hindering his ability and preparation.

I hope they don't budge on the issue. Fuck this "A side" bullshit.

 

Yeah, GGG seems like he stays in shape and around the same weight. Cutting down out of his range at his age could backfire.

A "catchweight" that's a pound over the "smaller" fighters weight is a joke. Why not 157?

 

157 is a good compromise.

 

Yeah I don't have a problem with catch weights if the weight is basically for the bigger guy to prove he's not that big. But when you seem to be hoping the guy gets cramps it's a bitchmove. And the kicker is Canelo is the legitimate MW champion of the world.

 

Yup, Canelo is the lineal champion...by rights the fight with GGG should be at 160lbs no ifs and no buts. However, understanding that he'd want to get any advantage that he can given how dangerous GGG is...157 is a reasonable ask.

 

Didn't GGG's People Demand Andre Ward Come DOWN in Weight???...If So, What's the Difference???...

From Canelo's Perspective, Floyd Mayweather Made him Come Down a Couple Lbs in DEFENSE of his Own (Canelo's) Title...Years Prior, DeLa Did Likewise to Bernard...Years Prior to that, Sugar Ray Leonard Did it to Donnie LaLonde, for 2 Titles Simultaneouly...

Ya'll Act as if this ONLY Began w/Pacquiao and the Current Era of Fighters, When it DIDN'T...






REED

 

And I don't agree with that bullshit either.

But if you MUST ask the difference, I'll tell you - Golov's not trying to create his own 164 pound division.

Eddy Reynoso said "We're very comfortable at 155 and moving forward these fighters will have to move up or down to fight us that weight."

I'm not opposed to this as a fan of Golov/Canelo hater. I'm opposed to this as a BOXING FAN who hates to see any entitled asshole thinking he's bigger than the sport, and the divisions that were created in this sport.

 

The Bottom Line is, Team Golovkin CANNOT Bitch and Moan about a Canelo Catchweight when they were Perfectly WILLING to Do Likewise to Andre Ward...Doesn't Get Anymore HYPOCRITICAL than that, Bruh...




REED

 

Do you NOT get it or is your Golov hate so strong that it's obstructing your BOXING FAN vision?

This isn't about Golov. It's about Ginger puto and his people trying to CREATE their own damn weight class! For the last FOUR fights now Ginger hasn't been a middleweight NOR a junior middleweight.

It's completely different than Golov demanding a catchweight for ONE fight. This is about Crapnelo trying to force ALLLL his opponents to his manufactured 155 weight class.

 

That's the problem with boxing nowadays. These guys have all this leverage and use it to make bitch moves.

Tito had MORE leverage over Hopkins in 2001 than Canelo has over GGG currently. At the time, Tito was second biggest star in the sport (behind Oscar), and Hopkins was still only known by hardcores.

You didn't see Felix demanding Hop to some bullshit catchweight. No, they fought for the lineal middleweight title AT MIDDLEWEIGHT.

Fuck Canelo!

 

"The hate is strong with this one"

Your hate for "Crapnelo" exceeds REED's hate for Golovkin.

 

Bullshit example. Not comparable at all. Tito had planned to move all the way up to 175lbs to face Jones. Since he planned to be a Lightheavy eventually...OBVIOUSLY he's not going to demand a catchweight below 160lbs.

Nevertheless, I agree with your main point: Canelo, being the lineal champ, needs to fight at that weight limit.

 

What in the living H E L L is blinding REED and yourself from seeing that this isn't about Canelo hate/Golov love.

If Roy fucking Jones in his prime was DEMANDING all his opponents to fight for his light heavyweight title at 171, I'd have raised Hell.

This is about a particular fighter thinking he's bigger than the SPORT.

I dunno what the Hell you and REED are, fans of a fighter first or the sport first.

I'm a BOXING FAN first and foremost, and have favorite fighters secondly.

 

You CHILDISHLY Persist in Labeling REED a Golovkin "Hater"...Why, Because You're a CERTIFIED, On Your Knees, Mouf' Wiiiiiiiiiide the Fuck Open, SACK SLURPING GGG Nuthugger...Every Single Time REED Attempts to Have a MATURE GGG Debate w/You, You DEVOLVE the Discussion to THIS Level, Bruh...

Shit's Gotten OLD, Frankly...

REED Doubts Very Seriously Canleo Would Make EVERY Middleweight Come DOWN to Face Him...He's Saying the Shit NOW Because the Fight EVERYBODY Wants is GGG, Who Canelo CLEARLY Wants to Come DOWN to Face Him...Canelo's Team is SAYING that Right Now Because GGG is On his IMMEDIATE Horizon...But if Golovkin WASN'T, REED Honestly Could See Canelo Making this Demand...

Dude has OUTGROWN '54...'60 Would Be Fairly EASY for him to Make & if the Opponent is Andy Lee, David Lemieux or Anybody BUT GGG, REED Seriously DOUBTS Canelo Would Demand a Catchweight...

Bottom Line, Team Golovkin CANNOT Bitch & Moan about a Canelo Catchweight when they were WILLING to Put Andre Ward Thru the Same EXACT Shit...& if You WEREN'T on GGG's Nuts, You'd Call a Spade a Spade...





REED

 

Yet You're BITCHING about Canelo Making GGG Resort to a Catchweight, While ABSOLVING GGG from DIRECTLY Causing the Ward Fight to NOT Happen, for the SAME Fucking Reason???...

It's the SAME EXACT Shit, Yet You're All Pissy about Canelo Doing it TO the Same Guy that Did it to Ward???...Pure, Unadulterated NUTHUGGERY OR Canelo Hatred...However You Choose to Spin It....




REED

 

& for the Record, REED DIDN'T Complain about GGG Suggesting a Catchweight to Ward, Because Ward is Clearly the "B-Side" of that Equation...

But Yeah, Label REED a GGG "Hater", Anyways...



REED~

 

Golovkin is being cowardly if he won't fight the guy at 155

 

I've criticized GGG not moving up to face Ward considering it seems no one wants to fight him at MW, but this is not the same situation at all. GGG fights at mw, while it's disapointing that he doesn't want to move up, at the end of the day, he's still playing by the rules. Canelo fights at Canelo weight, which means, basically the weight that suits him the most. If he would still fight at 154, then the situation would be similar, but as of now, it's pretty obvious he can't make jr. mw anymore. He's simply trying to pimp the game. The whole thing is even more ridiculous when you consider there's a mere 6 pounds between the two division.

 

Who's to say he can make 155 without draining himself ??? We saw it in Dawson-Ward, a competitive fight on paper which turned into a mismatch due to Dawson weakening himself to make the catchweight limit. And don'T tell me it wasn't the case as Ward never stops anyone, why would the only time he showed power was against the biggest opponent of his career? Catchweight are a joke, epecially in the 16-17 wc context, and it'S sad to see so much fans defend them (or at the very least, don't denounce them).