Looks like Fedor is Re-Signing with Strikeforce...

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  1. TLC

    TLC "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Are you saying Arlovsky isn't shot? :lol:

    AA is so done right now, there's probably at least 20 HWs ranked lower than him that I'd pick to beat him right now.

    Even when he fought Fedor he was on the sharp decline. If you struggle with Ben Rothwell you are pretty much on the brink of losing your elite status..
     
  2. Anthony

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    Problem is that you cant name 10 fighters above arlovski at the time he fought fedor.
     
  3. TLC

    TLC "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Why not, he barely beat Ben Rothwell and pretty much was in a very bad spot against Roy Nelson by EliteXC was rigged and sottd the fight up after 2.5 seconds. This was the Roy Nelson by the way who was always undertrained, and had the cardio of a man who trained out his house, well because he did.
     
  4. Bob N Weave

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    Sounds like the current Roy Nelson to me.
     
  5. TLC

    TLC "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Nelson is fully capable of going 3 strong rounds. The Nelson that fought Arlovsky has zero stand-up and usually gassed after 4 minutes.
     
  6. Bob N Weave

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    :notallthere:
     
  7. Azazel

    Azazel "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Sure, Lesnar is so much superior to Werdum, after all, he struggled to a win over a 45 y.o. Couture coming on a 1 year plus lay off, win over shot Herring, went 1-1 with the oh so good Mir and managed to outlast 3 minutes Carwin. What a great resume, of course he should be on top of all raking list, after all, he's the UFC champ :pathetic::pathetic:


    And Carwin cardio shortcoming are nothing like a weak chin, to beat a fighter with a weak chin, you need the skills to reach it. To beat Carwin, you just have to survive 3 minutes ( at most 5 minutes ), after that he completely crumbles, the blueprint is there. So to me, that's a garbage fighter. Maybe he improves on that but I doubt it at his age. You keep on laughing about Rogers but at least he was professionnal enough to fight more than 1 round in his title fight and his standup his way better than Carwin imo. Wouldn't surprise me at all if he knocks him.

    Plus I never claimed JDS had a questionnable chin, just that it was a question mark as it was never really tested. And I'd like to see your definition of caught if JDS-Werdum, a fight where Werdum came in fat and overconfident as JDS was considered a joke who had just been submitted by a scrub, doesn't qualify??? Name some
     
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    Azazel "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Exactly, he was gassed as shit after the 1st round vs JDS, he didn't looked strong at all, hell, he looked less gassed vs Arlovski ( and less fat too ).
     
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    JDS knocks out any version of Werdum in any shape or size in my opinion. It might take more or less time than it did, but the same outcome happens 10 out of 10 times.
     
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    LOL? He won both rounds with Couture and TKO'd him in the second. Mighty stuggles indeed. Oh-so good Mir? Yeah, name 1 fighter ranked lower than Mir(who's rated at number 7 or 8 usually) that would beat Mir? Oh wait there are none. Carwin? A top 6 fighter easily, and will continue to be. There aren't many guys in either org that can beat him.

    ROFLMAO at Bum Rogers beating Carwin. Leave. Never speak again.

    And hilariously enough, Rogers gassed in his fight with Fedor and in the second round against Abongo he tired in the second despite beating up on a man half his size.

    JDS has been in stand up wars with Cro Cop and Roy Nelson and has mediocre strike defense but doesnt have a chin? OK then. :bangh:

    And no, JDS a heavy-handed kickboxer KO'ing a medicore chinned BJJ artist isnt an example of a fighter getting caught. :lol:
     
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    JDS has a GRANITE chin. No doubt about that
     
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    I am curious at a scenario in which Rogers beats Carwin..... How would that happen? Personally I don't think Carwin's stamina would be an issue. He puts Rogers into a coma in less than a minute.
     
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    I never said JDS had a weak chin like you keep on claiming I do. I only said it was a question mark, wich it is.

    JDS wasn't in wars with CroCop and Nelson, he was in total control all the way, sure he may have been caught with a good shot from time to time but not with something big enough to mark his chin as granite. It's still unknown, not glass but still unknown. And Rogers may be a bum, but so is Carwin, at least Rogers is professionnal enough so he doesn't crumble like a pouch of potatoes after 3 minutes of fighting

    A fighter rankes lower than Mir who would beat him ?? Arlovski would imo, so would Giant Silva, so would Overeem and so would Barenett, all are ranked lower than him on Sherdorg rankings.

    And if JDS-Werdum is not an example of a fighter getting caught ( and how is Wedum a glass jaw ??6 ) what is then.
     
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    BOSS, nice sig pic. I keep getting stuck on your posts, for some reason I don't want to scroll down past them.
     
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    Did you SEE the fetal position cower and cover that Rogers did against Overeem? Professional?
     
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    Guys lets discuss but not insult each other. We dont need to be calling each other idiots and morons. We just dont agree on everything.
     
  17. Azazel

    Azazel "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Rogers is wat he is, a big guy with a good punch, huge strenght and good timing. I don't claim he's some kind of monster. I just don't get all the love Carwin get, sure he has all the right tools but he doesn't seem able to have them for longer than 3 minutes, and that makes him very beatable. Maybe he improves on it, and if he does, he would probably rule the UFC division untill age catch up to him, but at 35, my bet is that he don'T.
     
  18. Azazel

    Azazel "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I'm not surprised either.The thing about PED use in combat sports is that its never made them better I mean look at the track record,most MMA fighters that get busted lost the fight.
     

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