Looks Like It's Calzaghe-Jones...

I would love to see Roy pull it out... but I bet he just stands there doing nothing for most of the rounds.

 

In his fond farewell? No way.

Roy's still got it. His reflexes have slowed and his legs are shot. Thankfully, he won't have to rely on them against Calzaghe.

 

Exactly...

The BEAUTY of this Fight (for Roy Fans) is that Calzaghe will BRING the Fight to Roy...AND he'll Provide Roy a PLETHORA of Countering Opportunities w/his SLAPPY Workrate...

How's Calzaghe Gonna Cope w/a Guy who can Consistently BEAT him to the Punch & HURT him, Simultaneously???...

Roy Ain't "ROY" Anymore, but he'll STILL have the FASTEST Hands & HARDEST Punch Calzaghe's EVER Encountered...That Same LEAD Right that DROPPED Calzaghe (N the Bernard Fight) will Arrive SWIFTER, More FREQUENTLY & w/More POP Behind it, when Roy Delivers it...

STYLES Make Fights, Boys & Girls...& even Nearing 40, REED Thinks Roys STYLE is BAD for Calzaghe...



REED:hammert:

 

Yup. And that's all Jones has been working on since the Johnson fight - fighting along the ropes.

He showed flashes of it in the third Tarver fight but Tarver wisely kept the bout in the middle of the ring once Jones hurt him with his back against the ropes.

He fought both Hanshaw and Badi Ajamu with his back almost exclusively to the ropes.

He tried to bait Tito to fight him there but for the first time in his career, Tito wanted to box.

Calzaghe won't be able to resist pushing the old man around and taking him to the ropes where his "advantage" lies. Unfortunately for him, Jones' two major weaknesses (shot legs, slowed reflexes) fly out the window there.

 

You guys are insane. ::

 

Seriously. As if laying on the ropes is a good strategy. Ask Manfredo how that worked out for him against Calzaghe. ::

 

Why would I use the Manfredo fight as a gauge? Peter Manfredo? Roy Jones? Are you kidding me? Why wouldn't I use the Hopkins fight instead?

 

It's what happened to Manfredo that I'm talking about, not Manfredo himself. If the fight is in Wales, the same thing could happen to Roy.

 

True. There was no way Manfredo could overcome both Calzaghe and the bought referee. ::

 

I'm not really all that disappointed in this one as opposed to Pavlik's next opponent. I want to see Pavlik fight Abraham.

Pavlik fighting another "gimme" in Rubio suggests that Arum is feeding him soft touches to make sure he's undefeated to help build up to his fight with Calzaghe which would probably be next year.

 

calzaghe beats both jones and pavlik. get over it.

kessler knocks them both out too.

 

How many times will Roy have to get starched/embarassed before the groupies realize he's no longer a top tier fighter?

 

Kessler wasn't even man enough to face Miranda. He went chasing a paper title instead when he could have made some good money and been on US TV for some great exposure.

 

Twice:dunno:

No one is making him out to be a killer at this point. I'm definitely not. This is the ONE fight I think RJJ should take because of the style matchup. This style plays right into his hands, just like the Tito fight. Calzaghe is better and stronger than Tito and there is a risk for Roy. There isn't that much more risk to make me scared, and I'm one who DOESN'T want to see him laid out again.

 

well jones is surely better than lockett

fight im looking forward too

if hopkins can drop calzaghe with a counter, you know jones can

 

What does Lockett have to do with Calzaghe?

 

im saying, everyone is pissed joe will fight jones, all im saying is that jones is a far better test and challenge than lockett was to pavlick

joe could actually lose to jones, whereas lockett had no chance

 

People are underestimatin RJJ in this thread, which shows that it's a lose-lose fight for Joe in terms of perception, among boxing fans although probably good financially.
I actually think it's an extremely competitive fight.

 

WAR ROY JONES JR.......ray:

 

He is just coming off 3 solid fights though, and he was willing to face Calzaghe next.

 

Damn I can't wait for this fight. This is the type of fight that will put Roy back in the top 10 p4p. Roy is gonna take Calzaghe's "0". Roy is gonna be fighter of year with this victory. I'll Holla 5000

 

I never thought that. He could definitely be FOY if he wins decisively. What better way to retire besides undefeated like PBF.

 

I like your confidence.

We as fans are in a no-lose situation as well. If Jones loses, well, everyone expected it and we were just some delusional nuthuggers anyway. But if he wins...

I'm surprised at some of you. If there's any fighter you've seen in the past 25 years that can pull this off, it's Roy Jones Jr. What do you guys mean when you say shot? He's damn near shutout his last three opponents and while they may have been mediocre opponents he still beat that a**. That's not a shot fighter. Yet all of you guys keep comparing this "damn good" fighter to the "unbeatable" one you witnessed 5-6 years ago. Well, a lot of fighters look shot compared to that Jones.

You guys are gonna be in for a surprise when you see Jones do things against Calzaghe that he's "never done before." But they'll be things he's been tinkering on these past couple years. And he's found the right opponent to try it out against, if this fight comes off.

"All teams go up and down, and then have to rebuild back up. In boxing, when fighters go all the way to the top and then drop down, sometimes they have to do the same. Lennox Lewis, Oscar De La Hoya, Bernard Hopkins and James Toney all had to rebuild. A lot of people never thought that I would get a chance to rebuild but I will get my time."

- Roy Jones, June 2006

 

I swear- it's really, really sad to have to say this, but there are people posting in this thread who MTF respects as boxing enthusiasts who are talking absolute and complete horseshit.

Frankly, it's borderline insane.

Roy Jones Junior WAS one of the best fighters of all time, and almost certainly the most gifted fighter of his generation. At his peak, he was near enough unbeatable, and he fought in a way that bamboozled his opponents and had his fans purring. Without question, RJJ was the greatest 168lb-er in history.

That Roy Jones Jr is a faded memory.

FOUR YEARS after a game fighter as limited as Glencoffe Johnson DISMANTLED Roy in a fight which had Jones' fans grimacing at the decline of this once extraordinary fighter, Jones seems to believe that he is somehow capable of fighting on something like level terms with the guy most people have, AT LEAST, in their top five P4P rankings.

I'm not sure what is worse- his delusion or that of the people trying to champion this fight.

Calzaghe should be fighting Pavlik. That is THE fight to be made at 160/168 right now and would be a fantastic match- enough to whet the appetites of casual fans and hardcore followers alike. A fight between Calzaghe and Roy would be a total and complete mismatch at this stage, and is being mooted simply because it will make both men a SHITLOAD of cash. It is exactly the kind of scam that Floyd and Oscar were trying to pull, and no-one seriously let that silliness any credibility whatsoever.

The sooner people let Roy's NUTS drop from their bouncing position on their chins, the better. Roy is done and dusted, and has been for fucking ages.

I repeat- Some of what has been posted in this thread is borderline preposterous.

MTF

 

So styles don't make fights?

 

If you added the respective abilities of those three guys together (and in respect of Tito, I mean the retired, shot and ancient Tito that Roy fought in a glorified EXHIBITION match) and moulded a fighter accordingly, you wouldn't come close to making a guy made like Joe Calzaghe.

What the fuck does Joe have to do to get some respect around this place? Every time he fights someone, the same collection of haters pick him to be dispatched. Lacy, Kessler, Hopkins- scores of people picking him to be smashed, yet he beats the holy shit out of each and still he is a 'bum' or 'he slaps' or some other such shit.

Sad.

MTF

 

Sure they do- the style of a top five (top three, imho) P4P guys against the style of a former great fighter at LEAST five years past his best?

I'll take the P4P guy... :dunno:

 

jones jr is getting his ass whipped if he faces calzaghe.

what jones jr should be trying to do is fight pavlik who he'd have a slight chance at defeating, although I'd predict he gets his ass whipped in that bout also.

 

for all shit people give Calzague for fighting Jones, Pavlik can very welll end up fighting Mayorga acording to Arum. :notallthere:

 

I think it's the other way around.

Against Joe, Roy doesn't have to worry about power only the speed and skill which is something Roy still has.

Against Pavlik Roy would get KOd eventually. The pressure Pavlik puts out it's too much.

Joe is also an old man unlike Pavlik. I think Roy Matches up better with Joe.