Manny Pac

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  1. loadedgloves

    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I've regularly shitted on Gabe for his bias long before he ever wrote that article, the guy is a moron. Even the Maxboxing forums hate the guy. I'm not saying that there's "tabloid" reporting going on but the cease & desist letter from GBP as a result of a completely unrelated topic (which Montoya says in the article) would make much more sense if you look at the Pacquiao lawsuit as an impetus for it. There's no proof or evidence of a failed drug test.. though non-GBP fighters have failed A samples and B samples were still taken as conclusive. Not sure how having USADA "in his pocket" would help if everyone is undergoing the same tests (Floyd != GBP, but even aside from that) - especially since VADA testing was what Floyd wanted initially.
     
  2. loadedgloves

    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I'd entertain the idea, of course. It wouldn't shock me at all. But Floyd isn't the one who's avoided drug tests while shooting up in weight and KO'ing much bigger guys, so.. *shrug*. His strength at 147 is fairly remarkable though, especially considering the guys he's fighting regularly outweigh him by 15-20 lb.
     
  3. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

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    Where did you hear Floyd wanted VADA?
     
  4. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Have I not said a million times I don't know who's taking what? I'm not arguing that anyone is clean, I'm saying people throw accusations around and act like they are stating fact.
     
  5. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

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    Pacquiao is about as obvious an unofficial cheat as there's been in boxing
     
  6. loadedgloves

    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    It beggars belief that Pacquiao is clean.
     
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    Neil tueur de grenouilles

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    i never heard nothin about mayweather jr wanting VADA testing
     
  8. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

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    Me neither.
     
  9. loadedgloves

    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I thought he wanted it back in 2009 when the negotiations initially started, iirc I read it on FightHype at some point (?) If nobody else remembers it, I might be wrong, but I am fairly certain VADA was mentioned for sure at one point.
     
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    Captain Obvious WBC Champion

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    Emmanuel Pacquiao is Filipino, meaning he's from the Phillipines. He's sometimes referred to as "Pac Man".
     
  11. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    He wanted Olympic style drug testing. VADA was never mentioned. They don't do "exemptions" for fighters with enough money so...
     
  12. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I'd argue that JMM is a bit more obvious. Manny has never transformed his body overnight. What is it exactly that makes it so obvious to you? Just the fact that he beat bigger guys? I mean you certainly can't tell by looking at a guy unless it's as obvious as JMM. James Toney failed a steroid test.
     
  13. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Fixed that for ya.
     
  14. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

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    amazing
     
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    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Explain yourself jazz hands, it's obvious you're an expert at picking out guys on steroids just by looking at them.

    I will entertain the thought that Pac is on Steroids. It wouldn't be shocking to me at all.
     
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    cdogg187 GLADYS

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    "I'm afraid of needles", says guy with many tats
     
  17. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Have you ever seen a tattoo needle?
     
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    cdogg187 GLADYS

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    yes and the pain it causes is enormous, especially when compared with something basically painless like a syringe
     
  19. TKO

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    Have you got a tattoo?
     
  20. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

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    He does

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    That's awesome. Can you put me in touch with the artist
     
  22. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

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    You'd have to ask cdoog.

    You should go with this one (if you don't already have it)

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  23. TKO

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    Would that look good as a tramp stamp
     
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    cdogg187 GLADYS

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    have you gotten a root canal? Do you need to get one to know that it hurts more than getting a filling? Common sense
     
  25. loadedgloves

    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Funny that as obvious as JMM was, Manny's camp never asked for VADA or USADA testing.
     
  26. loadedgloves

    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Apparently you have no idea what the term "beggars belief" means.
     
  27. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I know what it means. To me, it's not that unbelievable what Manny is doing. He's got a HUGE speed advantage over these bigger guys. He struggled more with smaller faster guys.
     
  28. loadedgloves

    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Judging by this post, you've never heard the expression before in your life.
     
  29. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Uh, ok sure.
     
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    It's Not the LEAST Bit Surprising that Manny's MAINTAINED Every Drop of Speed AND Power, as he's DRASTICALLY Moved Up???...That's UNPRECEDENTED...

    Armstrong, Duran, Robinson....EVERY Great Fighter in Boxing History Got SLOWER & Saw a DIP in their Power, as they Moved Up...Pac DIDN'T...



    REED:mj:
     

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