MARQUEZ vs. VASQUEZ III...

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  1. Double L

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    israel was stunned by a right hand in the 1st round, but in general i agree with you. he seemed to have the ability to endure marquez's punishment, and was willing to in order to deliver his own, which matquez could not handle.
     
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    This is EXACTLY how REED Feels about the Fight...REED Even Rolled w/Vasquez N his Article...

    REED Would Looooooooooove to B WRONG on this Particular Prediction, but Vasquez is the SAFE Pick, UNDENIABLY....

    By KO, No Less...


    REED:cool:
     
  3. Donnybrook

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    I thought about that when I picked and admittedly that part of my prediction isn't "safe."

    But I think Vazquez will be just slick enough this time - and Rafa cautious enough (in "boxing mode") that they may indeed go later than anyone expects.

    Vazquez will pound the body early and look to get inside quickly and re-test that chin again and again....if Rafa can take it long enough and keep moving, I think even a cut or two won't stop it going a bit later than expected.

    Isra didn't get cut in the first fight, I believe. And he wasn't badly cut against Jhonny, who is a big puncher.

    The 2nd fight was a bit of an abnormality, even for Isra.

    Peace.
     
  4. Double L

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    wait, so who is your pick? is anyone picking Raffy?
     
  5. ElTerriblee

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    Well his nose was broken and bleeding. Does that count? :dunno: :lol:

    It´s more like Rafa makes everybody bleed, if you dare to stay up long enough....not that Vazquez is easy to bust up. Most of the time Vazquez makes people bleed. I remember one of his very early fights around (3rd/4th fight), where he broke his opponents nose and the guy was bleeding so profusely the Red Cross put buckets around the ring looking for donations.
     
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    Guzman would school Pac. Guzman is clearly Pacs biggest threat. Where Floyd gets blasted for not fighting Cotto nobody will say anything about Pac not fighting Guzman.
     
  7. valdosta

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    Pac is fighting his biggest threat and is going to lose. A guy who fights in spurts like Guzman is a very winnable fight for pacquiao. Guzman losses a lot of rounds just by getting outworked.
     
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    Guzman is too fast and his chin is made of iron. He also has a big size advantage on Pac.

    Only way i see Pac winning this fight is if the judges buy his flurries that won't be doing much.
     
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    Pacquiao isn't going to lose to a spurt fighter. Guzman is to comfortable doing nothing for to long. Unlike a lot of the slow guys that Guzman has faced like Barrios and Soto, Pacquiao is quick enough to land more than they did.
     
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    Guzmans defence would make Pac throw less punches then he can get off against other fighters and so would his counter punches. Marquez is the best defencive fighter/counter puncher i have seen Pac fight and that was the lowest output i ever saw from Manny.
     
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    and you have never seen Guzman fight a fast fighter at all. JMM don't sit on the ropes like Guzman does either which would give Pacquiao plenty of chances to land hard shots.
     
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    Official prediction: Vazquez TKO 7

    Similar to the second fight, to be honest. Marquez will make it a good scrap, but I honestly felt that Vasquez hurts Marquez more than the other way around; even in the first fight (NO I don't think Vasquez was winning, but when he hurt Marquez, I thought he had a golden opportunity that slipped by.)
     
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    Guzman is insanely overrated. I can't believe how highly rated he seems to be.

    Even this wannabe politician Pacman would thump Guzman.

    Indeed gayboy Marquez is a tougher fight for Pacman.
     
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    who would have thought that a gift decision over Soto would get him all this hype. :rolleyes:
     
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    Who won in your opinions? I've only seen the last 3 rounds.
     
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    I think Vasquez won the fight. The last round surely won him the fight. I think he probably won 6 rounds at least which is what he needed to win the fight. Also the last round could have been a 10-7 round. Marquez took a terrible beating in round 12.
     
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    :clap: :clap: :popcorn: WHAT A GREAT SHOW EXACTLY WHAT WE AS FANS NEEDED WHO CARES WHO WON I LOVED THE FIGHT@@@@@@@@@
     
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    The huge 12th round won him the fight. What a performance to come out and fight the 12th like that after a brutal fight.
     
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    AGREED WITHOUT A 10-8 IN THE LST ROUND MAQUEZ WINS THE BELT WHAT A GREAT COME FROM BEHIND WIN.
    I THOUGH IT WAS A DRAW OR MARQUEZ WIN BY 1 HE PUT ON A CLINIC EARLY.ALSO THAT LOW BLOW CALL WAS BS.
     
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    It probably was but Raf should have had a point off earlier for low blows he had 3 warnings for them.
     
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    one of the best fights i've ever seen. i thought vasquez won 113-112
     
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    Wlad and Ibragimov should be mandated to give 75% of their purses to those two real warriors. Straight to the HOF for both fighters. I knew the knockdown would make the difference.
     
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    You think Pacquiao is going to lose to JMM? :eeeek: :eeeek:

    ANd btw....agree that Pacquiao could beat Guzman.
     
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    Vasquez is a straight up warrior. The way he went after Marquez in round 12 is how a true warrior closes a show. These guys have 10x the heart any of those pussy heavyweights could ever have.
     
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    Warriors = poor defense & little power :crafty:
     

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