Mayweather backs down from USADA demand

I don't know. How many moms do you have?

 

Besides all the athletes from other sports, German fighters have to. To my knowledge Arthur Abraham had to be available for random testing in training camp for the Taylor fight.

 

He didn't fail a test, but admitted he took them, which is perhaps more conclusive, seeing as Jones failed a test, but the test was probably shoddy.

 

So despite being on another level to "all these cats", Pacquiao absolutely destroyed Oscar and Hatton in 1 sided fashion, Hatton at his best weight, yet it took Floyd 10 rounds to beat Hatton, and a split decision over Oscar? ::

You're being foolish.

Floyd may well win this fight, but to think he is on another level to Pacman is absurd.

 

Here are the rules of the German boxing commmission (BDB). Feel free to translate them:

http://www.boxen-bdb.de/index.php?action=rules&action_2=rules&action_3=doping&part=5

Here is the official list, which methods and substances are considered doping:

http://www.boxen-bdb.de/documents/doping/DopBest_Anlage_1.pdf

Here is the official list with the consequences in case of a positive testing:

http://www.boxen-bdb.de/documents/doping/DopBest_Anlage_2.pdf

And finally the paper every fighter has to sign, that he has read and agreed to all these rules:

http://www.boxen-bdb.de/documents/doping/DopBest_Anlage_3.pdf

How independent the BDB is *cough cough* is a whole different issue, but you wanted proof that the testing exists and here it is.

 

Leaving aside the fact that El has provided proof, why is this even relevant? Seriously. Pac demanded an unprecedented contract stipulation on weight. No big deal because Floyd doesn't mind playing by the rules for this fight in that department. He didn't give a shit that he was being made to sign a stipulation above and beyond the rules of boxing that no other boxer had ever been asked to agree to. Because he had no intention of coming in above 147. It was irrelevant, he didn't give a shit, no big deal. And neither would Pac if he both wanted the fight and intended to be clean.

 

They weren't checking his blood, they were checking FOR blood. They had seen Miranda Parto-Uno, frendo:nono:

 

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As a fighter you need a license. If your promoter is registered in Germany, you have to play by these rules and agree to random testing. Don´t agree, no German license, can´t fight on a card supervised by the BDB. So there you have it. And I have no idea about the rules in all the other countries, but I´m sure Germany isn´t the only country that has random testing.

But I think that is totally irrelevant to the lawsuit anyway. That thing dies the moment Malignaggi comes under oath.

If he has to testify that he directly accused Pacquiao of steroid abuse and that Top Rank/Pacquiao nevertheless offered him a contract, that whole construct breaks down. You cannot possibly feel defamed by a doping test request on one side, but jump into bed with another person, that directly accused you of cheating.

 

Well then we can draw two conclusions.

First, if guys like Evander Holyfield & Shane Mosley (not to mention Jameel McCline and a host of others) are able to fight for decades without getting caught, then the standard procedures in place are pathetic.

Two, Irish's post that the Mosley case was different because there was more "dirt" on Shane is irrelevant. The fact is, there was no dirt on Shane until years later. Likewise, we'll never know with Pacquiao - especially if he has an unexplainable fear of random testing.

 

Agreed.

 

Just not for this fight because Pacquiao should be able to cheat like always. It would be completely unfair to him to change the requirements now...right before his biggest fight. Damn Floyd is cheating by trying to prevent cheating and it ain't right!!! And he's ducking. And he's a dickhead. And he would have asked for more. And Pacquiao is a lot cuter. And I like Pacquiao better. And if Pacquiao had made the request it would be perfectly ok.

 

Absolutely.

I hate the idea that fighters are roided up, including Pacquiao, I really hope he isn't.

But like you, I don't like this assumption that Pac is guilty based on hunches, and being forced into doing something, despite having no record of PED use.

 

But this isn't about integrity for Pacquiao, this is about being afraid of needles....I mean it's about too much testing...I mean it's about taking blood too close to the day of the fight.

 

I think IF Pacquaio was juicing he started way way back then, probably at 122. He fights the same way with respect to INTENSITY. Punches in bunches like Paul Williams, but cutting shots with POWER. He fought and still does like a Tasmanian devil, a southpaw Jack Dempsey.

The only difference is he is more well rounded. A one handed fighter back then, now he has new techniques from master Roach, the right hook. He counters a lot better and is countered less, more patient for openings.

As far as weight is concerned he was 140 to 144 on fight night as a superfeather, so the weight or MUSCLE gain has been MINIMAL for the last few years. Now he is not weight DRAINED, could focus on training, power punching instead of cutting weight.

He fought Morales, Barrera and Marquez at their PRIMES. Mayweather has NOT been impressed with his KO's of Oscar, hatton and Cotto, finding fault with his opponent's readiness and strengths at the time Manny has fought them, so he has looked SENSATIONAL. A possibility of a combination of Pacquaio reaching his peak in strength, dedication and faulty adversaries.

 

:: they just don't see the writing on the wall. Pathetic really.

 

But why wouldn't he, first of all? And secondly, the only way the "system" is going to be changed is if the promoters and athletes go with it.

 

Naz saw the writing on his prison cell wall. It said.."Bye Bye MBE, Fatty"

 

:nono:

 

Hamed fought a past-his-prime Barrera, and lost.

 

Man, I'm CHANGING my pick. Pacquaio has fought over the hill, weight drained and beaten fighters. And Mayweather is ACCUSING him of roid use?::

At least Floyd has beaten Hatton and Corrales when they had an O on their record.

 

Yep. Manny fought bums. Now all of a sudden he is the 2nd coming of Muhammad George Frazier Foreman Marciano Lee, and he needs to be checked out.:notallthere:

 

He has to. I demand it. Not that I am accusing him of anything, Naw. I just want him tested randomly by the Commission that oversees the fight. What? They don't do the testing as often as I want? I demand it anyway. I'm the draw here. I want my PARANOIA satisfied eventhough he has no history of ever testing positive before.

What? I'm being sued? Fight is off? Ah, ok, no Olympic testing. I was just trying to mess with you. 8oz gloves, at 147 and no testing. You call the shots, Manny, ok?