Mayweather Jr: "Emanuel Steward is an Uncle Tom"

If it's about pure race,.. and not style / knockouts,... why is there a copious amount of bawling and screaming about the shitty, shitty, shitty heavyweight division by white American scribes who have actually called it "the worst it has been, EVER"... moreso then they did, when Don King owned all the titlists, Ruiz, Byrd, Brewster and Rahman, infact, when Vitali retired, and Rahman recieved the belt by default, there was a glimmer of celebration about it,.. he chased the chicken into retirement, hoooraaaayyy!!!..

Style, personality, and nationality are stronger factors than race,... Paul Spadafora was a white undefeated bitch fighter,...unlike Pavlik nobody flocked to him in a posse, because he was precisely that, an unentertaining bitch fighter with no power and a hideous criminal personality,.. :crafty: so it begs the question, why's Fraud an overachieving draw??... maybe it IS because of his race?.. I reckon Fraud should be thankful for being a black athlete in america,.. I'm quite sure there is an immense amount of 'Loks and Neils' and white american boxing scribes in his ppv count. :crafty:

 

Because black people hate each other by nature.....

 

The essence of what Jake said is that these two guys are "doing it for show, for publicity to help sell the event" ..and that's bullshit,..what we have here, is two vile personalities, who do believe exactly in what they're saying, the "for show" card, is another weak excuse, it's a creation for an oppurtunity to downplay the conviction behind thier true inhibitions.

It's like giving Kramer, the benefit of the doubt for "selling his comedy tour" ..

 

"Hate" is a Bit HARSH, but the "Crab Theory" Certainly Applies...


REED:mj:

 

yeah but u know what I mean...more black ppl are more likely to say "dat n*gga aint shit! Id whoop his ass!" than "wow, he can really box"

 

Willie Pep is 1 of THE Most Popular Fighters EVER & his Style Was Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar from Exciting...Vinny Paz was MANIC & a SHITTALKER, but NOBODY Went to his Fights Expecting KO's...Nonetheless, he was VERY Popular...

REED agrees that Nationality Plays a Role, Because REED was CERTAIN that a White Heavyweight Champion would Make Boxing MAINSTREAM Again, which it Clearly HASN'T...U COULD Chalk it Up to Styles but REED Thinks the LARGER Factor is that American Whites CAN'T Relate to the Klits or the Other Euro Champions...

As for Paul Spadafora, he NEVER had his "Moment" to Cross Over into the Mainstream Concious...Pavlik Got His by ANNIHILATING YOUR Favorite Country Bumpkin:crafty:...Spadafora???...All he Did was Live Off of 1 Gym Session vs. Floyd Mayweather...NOBODY Got to SEE him to Even Know he had a "Bitch" Style...

Thus Faaaaaaaaaar, Floyd HASN'T Proven to B a HUGE Draw w/Out the Likes of Dela or Hatton Sharing the Bill w/Him...The Marquez Fight will B the 1st Fight to Give Us an Indication of WHERE he's @ in that Realm...It'll Also Go a Looooooooooong Ways in Determining who Deserves the LARGER Share of the Purse btwn Him & Manny Pac...



REED:mj:

 

That's the "Crab Theory"...If U Place Crabs in a Bucket, as 1 of the Crabs Tries to Get Out of the Bucket, Others will Reach for Him & Pull him BACK DOWN w/them...


REED:hammert:

 

To be fair with Floyd, he's earned his fame/following because he's never lost in his career. It seems to me that once Floyd loses his 0, people will not be interested in him the same. I know Floyd is comfortable being himself in front of the cameras, because he isn't dumb enough not to understand that people will dislike him and will pay to see him lose. He's an anti-hero in that perspective. But you gotta give it to him, he's beaten everyone put in front of him, and he's a very skilled old-school fighter who relies on masterful defense to win. His style may be boring for the masses, but nobody can deny that he's still the man to beat.

 

U COULD Chalk it Up to Styles but REED Thinks the LARGER Factor is that American Whites CAN'T Relate to the Klits or the Other Euro Champions...

Then it can't be about 'race' then.

and Reed please,.. he didn't 'annihilate' him,.. Jermaine had him in baaad, baaad trouble before Pavlik caught him on the temple, and the rematch as even you have alluded to, could have been scored a draw,..and he stood with Pavlik toe to toe, fought his fight, and put up a good effort for someone who has been diminishing mentally for a long time,.. Jermaine's likability isn't about 'race' either,.. although on this particular occasion, it is for you :crafty: ...'Tom'.. ...your anti-country but you love Roy??,.. maybe....just maybe.....Roy is NOT and I repeat,.. NOT...........'country' enough..:cheer:

 

I thought Taylor won the rematch. I really think that Floyd bends the rules as far as they can go without blatantly breaking them to the point where he can get deducted. He uses his forearm and elbow as much as his jab, he turns sideways, ducking his head below the opponent's waist, and sometimes he even turns his back on opponents.

 

No he wouldn't be. If he were fighting at 147, where PBF fights, PBF would NOT fight him. Apparently, there's already several of PBF's worst nightmares at 147. Namely, Cotto, Mosley, Clottey and even Margarito.

 

Bullshit.

 

Part of me thinks Floyd is just trying to play the 'bad guy' or the 'heel', hoping to piss off enough white people so they'll buy the PPV in hopes of watching him get his head taken off. He really can't be that stupid to think his color is holding him back.

The two biggest things that are preventing him from being as huge as he thinks he should be is that his style isn't exciting enough, and he's too small of a fighter. People want to see brutal KO's, and Floyd just doesn't deliver them consistantly enough, and people love heavyweights and lighter fighters, especially under middleweight, just don't get looked at in the same way by the average sports fan. Of course there are exceptions, but Floyd isn't one of them.

Of course, saying "I'm not a huge star because I lack power and only weigh 147 lbs." isn't nearly as sexy as saying "It's all the white man's fault!!!"


TFK

 

Floyd is out of his fucking mind, he's not popular because he's fucking boring and because when h speaks he comes off like a complete retard.

Being white absolutely would not change that. The vast majority of popular fighters in history have NOT been white. So fuck right off with the racism theory.

It seems like people think being white means you get everything handed to you. That's some bullshit.

 

I raise your bullshit to double bullshit. Floyd and Jones aren't my style of fighters whether they were blue or purple. Both have really big vile mouths and are somewhat detestable, although roy is the more likeable of the two. Black fighters of yesteryear loved to mix it up and were not even remotely as cautious as floyd is. Black fighters have always been revered when they fought like warriors and acted like gentlemen. Ali was a racist prick but was loved because he was funny, didn't swear much and had a quick wit. Even Ali was exciting although he wasn't a brawler. Floyd Patterson was another black fighter who was revered because he had a likeable personality and fighting style. Name most of the black heavyweights during the 1970's, they were also highly thought of. Boxing fans in general will support a fighter with a warrior mentality and fighting style who also doesn't duck anybody.
Anybody who is vile,vulgar and hateable and has a boring fighting style will never achieve the fame they desire.

 

What are you talking about? America is drunk with liberalism and political correctness. You can't even trust the news to be accurate because it's so biased.

I'm no conservative, but it doesn't take Rush Limbaugh to discern the rampant liberalism in this country.

 

I agree.

 

It's funny that PBF has to fall back on notoriety in order to be relevant. It implies he has no redeeming value either as a person or a prize-fighter.

I hope he gets KTFO. But sadly, because he refuses to face actual threats at this stage in his career, he probably will not.

 

Yes, so socialising the health care industry should be an outrageous breeze, now Double L, please don't argue, I like the odd stab at America in peace, it's like a snifter of cognac at dawn, let me enjoy it.

 

Hey Barristan, could you elaborate on this?

Because almost everyone that hasn't meant Floyd knows he seems like an utter twat, but then there's a few people that HAVE met him, that seem to think he is a nice guy in real life.

I was just curious as to what your friend said about Floyd.

 

Its funny you should ask this now. I just got off the phone with my friend and word is that Floyd got freaked out over the piss drinking. Floyds feeling insecure about the fight and Marquez got into his head by showing him the extrems he's willing to go to win. Mental advantage is with Marquez in this fight.

In terms of the previous comment my friend and I were discussing how Floyd looks in sparring and he said that Floyd is an insecure person and is the type to treat his potential sparring partners with the utmost respect until he knows he could beat them up in the ring and then he'll start disrespecting them and humiliating them...and he said he's a ho who won't go out without bodyguards etc...He also said he's the most arrogant man on the planet and taking a loss would do him good...Things like that

 

are you kidding?

how would he be the biggest thing in America? Nobody in America even cares about boxing

Kelly Pavlik (a white guy) was the undisputed Middleweight champion of the world and NOBODY gave a fuck, nobody even knows who he is outside of hardcore boxing fans, all 35 of them still left in America

Floyd could have Muhammad Ali's charisma, and he would only be SLIGHTLY more well known than he is

Boxing DOES NOT MATTER IN AMERICA and hasn't for YEARS

 

Then how do you explain Shane Mosley never getting over the hump?

The fact is, Floyd is right. If he were white he'd be way more popular because Americans love a winner and a white fighter of Floyd's skill level would be so rare he'd be an instant hit. It's nothing new for black fighters to be dominant and winners in the sport of boxing. Sometimes it just takes that reverse race thing to happen. Just like with Tiger Woods. There was always white golf winners but soon as a dominate black golfer showed up, the world was his oyster. You give them something new and exciting and they'll eat it up.

You guys problem is you're focusing too much on the negative aspect of his point rather than the facts of his point. His point is accurate but at the same time his point is not rooted in racism like many of you think.

 

somewhat true... boxing does matters in america but only for certain nationalities. Latinos are the biggest draws nowadays. But white americans and black americans are more into football and basketball than anything else, of course MMA too.

 

I've noticed since the fight and Mosley's sneak attack that Floyd seems to be trying to play a different persona. He's been nothing but gracious of JMM as well as the Mexican fans, had nothing bad to say about Mosley or even Hopkins, and says that he's not a bad person but that he just likes to talk trash to sell the fight. Maybe he's trying to let go of his bad persona to try to get more fans.

 

steward surprisingly had a lot of nice things to say about floyd the other night. saying how he was talented as an amateur and how great he is today.

 

It wouldn't be about boxing he would be a cultural icon if he was white with his charisma and being an undefeated champ FOR 10 YEARS. Tyson, Ali, Oscar, Leonard weren't really about boxing they crossed over. This has nothing to do with the current popularity of boxing in America...and btw boxers are making more money today than anytime in history so some people must care :nono:

 

huh? uh how much did Gentleman Jim Corbett make for his career high payday? $2?

 

here is what Iole wrote on Twitter:

KevinI-Mayweather's PPV number is astronomical. It may exceed 1 million, but definitely will reach 900k. Should be announced officially Wed or Thur
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