Mayweather: "Mosley Can't Talk Money With Me"

i have never liked his personality, i always though he was a clown, but i rarely care what a athlete does or says, its all about what his actions are in the ring, but i do like floyds personality more then shane, shane is mildly retarded, i dont like slow or country fighters like jermaine taylor

 

no one does that, he didnt do it with oscar, its a business at the end of the day no one wants to take punches for pennies

 

Kauki, have you ever considered rooting for Kid Diamond?
Just like Zoo and Abdul, he was an overhyped bum, until he got beat down by Nate Campbell (or Vince Phillips, or Emmanuel Clottey, whatever the case might be)

 

Shane isnt the sharpest knife in the draw, this is true. But he's a good and likeable guy. I love Floyd as a fighter, I once TRIED to respect him as a person, but its hard to do. He's a dickhead.

 

hes on some immature shit, i dont get it

 

Who gives a rats ass what he says or thinks. You guys are all sheep. PBF talks shit and you cats eat that shit up like some little bitches. So what if he thinks that he's the dude that made the DLH fight sell. We all know that shit ain't true. Now he helped out but who gives a rats ass. PBF will fight someone perhaps SS and it will be a big ass event. Hell both fighters have already started promoting the damn fight and it hasn't even been announced. I'll Holla 5000

 

:crafty: See Illuminati, it's a reflection of your own personal requirements for supporting a fighter, race is definitely at the top of your list, followed by nationality, although this is old news to me, sifting through your pathology is like festering on a bag of candy, it all adds up, so by all means keep the treat coming my son, :crafty:.

By the way, I always said that if the Mexican-killer wanted to prey on Margarito, he would need to hunt in a pack, with Pacquioa and Shane Mosely. Mexican-killers only seek the elderly or the handicapped, a wholesome feast for easy labour is the preference of all predators. A little Mexican-killer like Pacquioa wouldn't dare risk being gored and trampled by a vicious Mexican the size of Margarito.

 

WHATtheFUCK do U Want from REED,dog???:dunno:

U BITCH when REED Supports Floyd,NOW U're BITCHING when REED CRITICIZES Floyd ...

Meanwhile,N his LAST 3 Fights,Floyd has had 3 MORE MEANINGFUL Bouts than YOUR Boy has EVER Had...



REED

 

Valid Point...

YES,DeLa WAS the Biggest Reason,but Floyd HELPED to OUTSELL DeLa's Bout w/Tito,Bernard,Shane,Chavez & ALL of his Other Opponents...

Floyd DESERVES Some of the Credit for that...Like U Said,it's NOT Like DeLa is Any MORE or LESS Popular...



REED

 

:stir: you are extreme kauki....you are Margarito with a sack+2.

Winky offer Margarito a fight.....and with did Margarito do? NOTHING...suddenly he went silent......Cotto wanted Margarito in June 9 what did Margarito do? Bitch about contracts...and free agency...like other promoters want to sign that basura.

Margarito would not fight Pacquiao if they were int he same division....

 

Margarito turned down Cotto on that date because he would have been stripped of his title he's held for so long. He's also taking on an undefeated prospect that many think will beat him. If he wins that fight he's headed directly to a unification fight with Cotto. How is this bad?

No matter what he does, people will have something to say about it.

 

^^^ precisely, and to take it back to ILLUMINATI's claim - it was the other way around. Maragarito wanted the Winky fight. It was Wink who turned down the fight, or more specifically the payday. He was offered $4-5 million, but wanted the same $8 million Arum was offering Floyd.

Also, he's taking the Williams fight because it's actually a bigger payday than he would've received for Cotto. IMO, it's a smart move on AM's part, so long as he wins. Of course there's the risk of dealing with a 6'1" southpaw that can punch, esp. when Margarito has never fared well against lefties. But a win here (again, a career-high payday) leads to an even bigger fight w/ Cotto in November, in which he earns more than he would've made for a June fight.

Not quite sure what any of that had to do w/ Floyd and Shane, though :dunno:

 

Your highness,..

I've actually told him 11 times, he's incapable of understanding, we shouldn't 'humanise' his sort, it's best not to bother anymore, he's untrainable, I'll take care of him, with fruit, three times a day, and a change of newspapers. Just pray for him my master, I admire your compassion.

 

HBO did more to promote the fight than Floyd did. That's why it was record breaking.

 

Did ANYBODY Watch the Fight BECAUSE it was on HBO???:dunno: ...

Nope...


Floyd Deserves More Credit than ANY Network...That Fight Would've BROKEN Records on ANY Network...


REED

 

BS.

HBO spent almost $20 million promoting the fight AND they gave the show a spot following their top two shows "The Sopranos" and "Entourage."

Does Floyd get credit for that?

Besides, whatever credit you give Floyd for promoting himself on "24/7" deserves an equal if not greater share of the blame for living DOWN to the expectations of the fight.

More people were turned off or didn't care about the win because it wasn't an exciting fight.

Even you've said that Floyd won "unimpressively."

So whatever credit he gets is equal to the amount of criticism he gets.

Hell, if Cotto-Judah would have had the same audience THAT would have done alot to bring in the casual fans. Judah got his ass whupped but he showed heart during the fight.

 

Floyd helped it but HBO did a brilliant job promoting it with the 24/7, especially with the schedule it received.

Floyd thinks he's a big reason why it sold, but he's probably around the same level, maybe slightly more popular, than someone like Mosley.

I was surprised by the PPV figures, I expected it to be around the same level as DLH-Tito.

 

floyd's a much bigger draw than mosley is at this point. floyd was here in DC few weeks ago and his presence was well received by the metropolitan area.

not too many would give a shit if mosley was in town.

 

You'd have to go back to 2001 to make a similar comparison when looking at both after their biggest win.

 

Not without the help of HBO. They have NEVER done as much to promote a fight as they did with Floyd vs Oscar.

I am still not convinced of Floyd's drawing power.

 

Well as they say, you're only as good as your last fight. Mosley's fought them all, Floyd Jr's been dining on sh*t, save DLH who's game but still ageing and inactive for the most part.
Floyd's got his undefeated streak working for him right now, but he sure as hell ain't anywhere near as big a draw as he thinks he is. He couldn't produce sh*t on PPV if not for DLH. Put Floyd in the ring with anybody else and he ain't drawing anything more than 450K buys at best. The guy's whacked!

 

No YOUR Post is B.S.,Dog...

ANY Network Could've Done Likewise...Hypothetically,FOX Could've Sandwiched 24/7 in btwn Episodes of "American Idol" or Whatever...ABC Could've Sandwiched it N btwn "Dancing w/the Stars"...

& Each of those Networks STILL Coulda Put the Fight on PPV & it Would have BROKEN Records...

The Fight Sold what it Did BECAUSE of the Personalities Involved,NOT Because of Any Specific Network,Dog...HBO was LUCKY Enough to ALREADY have DeLa & Floyd Under Contract,No More,No Less...It was ALREADY a GIVEN that a DeLa-Floyd Fight would do HUGE Business,REGARDLESS of the Network...

& Who GIVES a Shit about POST-Fight Criticism???:dunno: ...Floyd Certainly Doesn't,so WHY Should REED???...YES,REED Said Floyd was UNimpressive (& he WAS),but that DOESN'T Change the FACT that Floyd is 1/2 of THE BIGGEST Fight EVER...PERIOD...

As Much as that Obviously BOTHERS YOU,it's a Fucking FACT...

So Yeah,CRITICIZE Floyd for Being BORING In "the Biggest Fight Ever"...the Fact REMAINS,he WAS IN "The Biggest Fight EVER"...

HBO's Broadcast ALL of DeLa's PPV's,yet the 1 w/Floyd is the TOP Dog....



REED

 

I agree. One quality that makes a fighter great is willingness to prove it by facing other good fighter. I'd have way more respect for Floyd if he would challenge himself. Ever if he lost a few.

 

It's also the one HBO put the most money into promoting. Sure Floyd being the p4p best fighter can't hurt the promotion, but he isn't the only reason the fight broke the record.

 

REED has NEVER Suggested that Floyd is the "Only" Reason the Fight broke a Record:nono: ...

But Some ya'll (Not YOU,Necessarily) R Acting like Floyd had NATHAN to Do w/it...


REED

 

Oscar's generally got the Midas touch with PPV events, but I credit HBO quite a bit with their promotional push to make it from another big DLH fight to the mega event that even the mainstream was interested in. I'll credit Floyd too with his role as the bad guy.

The only guy he ducked is Margarito. I'll add Mosley if he prices himself out but right now it sounds like more Floyd trash talk, which I never take seriously.

Probably, but it depends on the wins and losses. Say he gets a gift or something, it doesn't really help.

 

I give Floyd some credit for sure and will even say that Oscar would not have had that many PPV buys with anyone else. Floyd is somewhat of a draw, I'm just not convinced he's at the "super star" level in terms of drawing power.

 

REED...I simply used your own criticism of Floyd. You got a problem with that? :stir:

If Floyd gets credit for helping get more people to ever purchase a PPV broadcast, he also gets credit for helping disappoint more people who ever watched a PPV broadcast.

So Yeah,CRITICIZE Floyd for selling "the Biggest Fight Ever"...the Fact REMAINS,he WAS IN "The Biggest Most Disappointing Fight EVER"...

As Much as that Obviously BOTHERS YOU,it's a Fucking FACT...

Lastly, thinking HBO's promotion and distribution didn't have anything to do with it is REEDtarded. They put up the money AND provided the vehicle to show the fight.

That's as REEDtarded as not giving a man's sperm, a woman's egg and a woman's uterus credit for the birth of a child. :doh:

 

I think Dela/Trinidad was a much more disappointing fight. A fight in which action was expected but never delivered. Mayweather/Dela went down pretty much as expected by most people I think, so there was less reason for disappointment.