Mayweather-Mosley How does it go down and who wins?

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  1. mikE

    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Agree.

    Also I would throw in Castillo 2 bringing out the best in Floyd. And I would throw in Castillo 1 as a hint as to why Mosley could get the better of Floyd.
     
  2. bigdawg

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    I understand what you are saying but sometimes all it takes is for a certain fighter to be the man at that weight division is by beating the man.

    But I agree with Hitman this will be PBF's toughest fight unless father time has caught up with Shane. I'll Holla 5000
     
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    But Mosley is not the man at 147, Pacquiao is. His victory over Cotto and the manner of that victory was pretty definitive. The same Cotto that beat Shane (in a very close fight).

    And to truly be the man at a division, you'd got to take on challenge after challenge. In 5 fucking years, Floyd has fought 1 legit welterweight - Oscar, and he managed to win a boring split decision.

    Fighting Mosley won't make up for Floyd's bullshit campaign at 147 for the last 5 years no. To establish himself as the man at 147, he'll have to beat Pacquiao, or impressively beat one top fighter after another at 147, not fight Mosley and then start taking bullshit fights like Campbell or Malignaggi.
     
  4. LOK

    LOK I'll eat your asshole alive

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    I'd like to see this fight

    I'm a fan of both, I like Shane better, better attitude etc.. but Floyd is just such a master boxer.. I'd like Shane to win but think FLoyd would win a dec
     
  5. V10

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    I'm liking this a LOT.

    :bears::bears::bears:
     
  6. mikE

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    Cotto's 1st lineage goes through Margarito and then to Shane. Floyd's is through Baldomir.

    Pacq's claim is through Cotto's 2nd which is through Jennings/Cotto, and then Cotto/Clottey. That ain't much.

    I would add...his win over Cotto was no more impressive than's Margarito's. Sure, Margarito may have had illegal wraps, but Pacquiao may have been full of juice. We'll never know. :kidcool:
     
  7. Fighter

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    All the years of active inactivity catch up to Mayweather. Years of avoiding a firefight. Mosley chops down Mayweather's body and STOPS him late.
     
  8. Hitman

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    If we make the assumption that Margarita's win over Cotto was a result of loaded gloves and since Mosley's win over Margarita was with unloaded gloves, I think it is fairly resonable to see Cotto W12 Mosley, Pac KO12 Cotto and therefore Pac is the man at 147. Mayweather will be nipping at his heels at #2 if he beats Shane tho.
     
  9. Fighter

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    Cotto was all but DONE after the 5th round against Pacquaio. He carried him and the ref could have stopped the fight at any moment. Cotto was much more competitive with Margarito hand wraps and all.
     
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    Shane deserves 30 at best.
     
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    It depends. If he beats Shane impressively, and Pacman barely beats Clottey, then I agree.

    If Pacman beats the fuck out of Clottey, and Floyd wins a close, boring decision over Mosley, then I would have Pacman in a clear lead. He'd have destroyed Oscar, Cotto and Clottey in a row.
     
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    Maywether will box the shit out of Mosley.
     
  13. LOK

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    If Shane wins, he is the greatest of all time
     
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    No.
     
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    You would love for this fight to never happen. I'm sure you will get your wish. Maywather and his fans are equally delusional.
     
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    When was the last time Floyd boxed the shit out of a top opponent? Especially one his own size?
     
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    I expect Mosley to be able to Test PBF for a few rounds until Floyd takes over and starts dominating late in the fight. I would love to see how Floyd takes Mosley's power.
     
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    Remember when Judah was giving Mayweather huge problems for four rounds? Now imagine a Mosley doing that for 12...

    Mosley will go to the body and hard. By the championship rounds Floyd will have SLOWED and will be more flatfooted. Mosley will STOP Floyd and face Pacquiao in the fall.
     
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    For those questioning Floyd's resolve and courage it's all moot. PBF absolutely has to take this fight whether he wants to or not. He's already received so much criticism and accusations of cowardice from the Pacquiao fiasco that to avoid the Mosley fight would be to basically admit that he is every bit the coward that his critics claim. So I have no doubt this fight will happen because PBF has been painted into a corner and has no choice but to prove himself and quite his critics.

    My only problem is how much Shane is going to allow himself to get fleeced in the negotiations.

    By the way Mosley wins with a one hitta quita in around the 6th. It'll be Tarver-RJJ II all over again.
     
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    10-11 years ago i would've favored mosley. it's a completely different fight now that mosley is old as shit and mayweather himself is no spring chicken.

    with recent inactivity and the fact that mosley has been training to fight later this month, i can't see how he won't be overtrained and rusty against the best fighter in the world.

    i pick mayweather on points in a boring fight.
     
  21. Barristan

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    Mayweather will make Shane look like a fool...eeeeasy work.
     
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    PBF is really in a position now where he has no choice but to take this fight.

    I do imagine some of his apologists would still find a way to rationalise it if he were to avoid Mosley, but it would be a small percentage. (although maybe not a small percentage on this particular board).

    I actually think that this is a good fight for PBF, as an older fighter will look old against speed.
    In his prime, I have no doubt that Mosley would have broken him down, but the older Mosley, like most older fighters may not be able to pull the trigger fast enough.

    Manny is a more dangerous fight for PBF (as PBF obviously realises)

    I expect PBF to win a U.D against Shane.
    Hopefully then he will have the confidence to fight more top guys .
     
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    I agree with lb 4 lb and Pascal.

    Floyd basically has to fight Mosley within the next few months to still be taken seriously.

    All but the biggest Floyd groupies would consider Floyd's current campaign in boxing to be a joke if he somehow managed to not fight Mosley after the Pacman fiasco.

    If Floyd doesn't fight Mosley, this whole charade would end up hurting Floyd more than Manny too.

    I always fancied a prime Shane to beat Floyd. And this was long before I disliked Floyd as much as I do now.

    Now though, it's difficult to tell. Shane looked brilliant battering the shit out of Plasterito, but Plasterito is clearly a bum without his magic handwraps. So while it was no doubt a great performance by Shane, he could have perhaps looked a fair bit faster and sharper than he really is at this stage.

    A fighter as sharp as Floyd could certainly show Mosley's age.

    I'm actually really annoyed that Mosley is not fighting Berto, because although I expected him to bash Berto, Berto is at least young and fast, and would tell us more about how Shane would do against Floyd, rather than Shane slapping around the plaster laden sloth Plasterito.

    I was going to wait until then to make a prediction.

    I guess the safest pick would be Floyd by boring, safety first decision. But it's not going to be easy. Shane is not as fast and sharp as he was, but he is still strong as fuck, he can punch, he's experienced, and he's slightly bigger than Floyd. AND he's still fast enough at 147, not much slower than Floyd is now, if at all.
     
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    I can see that this myth still exists despite my repeated attempts to dispell it.

    I'm going to weigh in on this fight...because it's the fight I've been salivating over for the past 10 years or so.

    in 2010...it's an EASY fight for Floyd. Y'all will be surprised as to how easy it actually is. I predict mayweather by late stoppage (Shane's corner stops the fight before the 11th round starts).

    Even in his prime, Mosley wasn't a boxer, but a stylistic disguised slugger. Floyd would have won then too...but in a close fight.

    But NOW..when Shane has lost alot of his handspeed, stamina and whatever reflexes he had is gone....Floyd walks away with it.

    The first couple rounds would appear competitive because Floyd will be tentative and Shane will be agressive. After two rounds Shane will become flat-footed and wing away at Floyd..looking for the KO and fighting in spurts.

    Floyd will basically jab him up. Jabs to head and body and then put on a counnterpunching clinic when Shane gets close. Shane will get discouraged and will be eating leather for the rest of he night until, as mentioned before, his corener mercifully stops it before the 11th round starts.

    Berto would have beaten the Shane of 2010..let alone Floyd Mayweather.

    Easy night.
     
  25. *Z*

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    Shane has good stamina, you are wrong about that. Look at his last couple fights. He was walking Cotto down late, he KO'd Mayorga in the 12th and kept up a good pace for 9 whilst beating the shit out of Margarito.
     
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    Mayweather will win via UD. It'll be interesting and Mosley will have some moments but he will not be able to find Floyd consistently enough to gain any type of edge on the cards.

    Some forget that Miguel Cotto was outboxing Mosley for the majority of their fight before he gassed out late but hung on to win the decision.

    I have no doubt Mayweather prefers the Pacquiao fight. But he'll still beat Shane. Just a better fighter at this point.

    10 years ago it may have been different. Would have been an awesome match up for sure. But not now. As hated as PBF may be these days by the masses, he's still going to win and win convincingly.
     
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    On march the 14th the answer will be 'yesterday'.
     
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    Unlikely.

    But as of now, the answer is a decade ago :lol:
     
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    :lol:
     
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    You mean the prime Mosely that lost twice to Forest, got a gift against Oscar, and got dominated and shut out by Winky?

    or the prime Mosley that knocked out the mean, vicious fighter for the ages......ANTONIO DIAZ!
     

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