Mayweather: Pacquiao is Not Getting 50-50, No One Is!

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  1. Trplsec

    Trplsec Sleeps in a Cage

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    And if Manny agreed to daily blood test and a 70/30 split, Floyd would find another excuse.

    Leave Manny out of the blame game now. It's all Floyd.
     
  2. loadedgloves

    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I've felt the same way about Pac for a long time. He did amazing stuff from 122-130, his whole run since then has been BS. Ducked Marquez shamelessly and then lost to him (again).. other than that, he's fought bums (Diaz, Clottey) , guys who were finished (Hatton, De La Hoya, Margarito, Mosley) guys coming off of very bad losses (Margarito and Mosley again, and Cotto), or Floyd's leftovers.
     
  3. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    You really are way to harsh about Manny's resume at 147. Even you know it's good. At least as good as Floyd's.
     
  4. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

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    Whether it's as good as Floyd's or not is irrelevant. It's an amazing run for such a little man... his run of barely losing rounds to BIG guys was one of the most impressive feats in the history of boxing, IMO.
     
  5. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I know, some people seem to have a hard time giving him the credit he deserves and he deserves a lot.
     
  6. mikE

    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    It is all Floyd. Now.

    If fucking Manny had just agreed to the blood tests right away instead of being the juicer it appears he is, he would have trapped Floyd. Then after a few weeks of additional negotiating, he should have said 'fine, you get 50.5 % and I get 49.5%. Let's fight.' Instead, he fucked up.

    Now Floyd has fucked up. And hard. I would still throw the 49.5% at Floyd if I were Manny just to prove the point that Floyd is the sole problem. But that's not happening unless Arum flips.

    I am getting very close to ordering Pacq/Bradley and not Floyd/Cotto. I was very close to ordering neither before this recent Floyd fuck up and still may end up there.
     
  7. mexican wedding shirt

    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

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    Agreed, a guy Pacquiao's size slapping welterweights around like they were featherweights is downright insane.

    Quite simply it's unprecedented. If it was that easy, other fighters would be doing it.
     
  8. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

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    And there's no doubt you can poke holes in the credibility of each of his big opponents... still doesn't really matter to me. Pacquiao wasn't even losing rounds to these guys. He was just beating the shit out of them.

    Pacquiao's resume is amazing.
     
  9. mexican wedding shirt

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    "some people" is basically Floyd groupies. I think it's essentially them getting all pissy about another fighter being more deserved of the best fighter of this era. Insecure sorts, Floyd fans, a bit like their master.
     
  10. mexican wedding shirt

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    I feel exactly the same way.

    Picking holes now is downright retarded. Before he moved up in weight, if someone told you that Pacquiao could move up in weight and literally destroy Oscar, Hatton and Cotto, and slap them around like punching bags, you'd think they were related to qwerty.
     
  11. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

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    Yep. It was a great run.
     
  12. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I wonder how "they" will discredit Bradley should Manny win that one.
     
  13. mexican wedding shirt

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    No power, not a welterweight, never beaten someone that famous etc etc. It's easy to discredit anyone :kidcool:

    In fact I know exactly what "they"'ll say too, which they say about all Manny's other opponents - "He had the right style to make Manny look good".
     
  14. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

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    I think Bradley is going to be a really tough fight for Pacquiao. Kind of leaning towards the upset right now.

    I still think Manny likes to fight in his comfort zone... have never liked the way he reacts to cuts, and with Bradley's huge head I expect this to be a rough one.
     
  15. loadedgloves

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    You and MWS are Pacquiao nuthuggers, so of course you think that.
     
  16. loadedgloves

    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Aren't you the same idiot who argued that Floyd's win over Hatton was diminished by the fight being at 147?
     
  17. loadedgloves

    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    You have Pacquiao's name tattooed on your ass. A PED fueled run over a laundry list of handpicked opponents doesn't impress me.
     
  18. mexican wedding shirt

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    That's because you're an idiotic Floyd groupie.

    I suppose steve_dave and 95%+ of all other boxing fans have Pacquiao's name tattooed on their arses too?

    You're in the extreme minority, you stupid cunt.
     
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    Steve-Dave thinks he is using.
     
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    So?
     
  21. steve_dave

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    I think a lot of these guys are using. But yeah, especially a guy who was reluctant to take drug tests.

    Still, amazing run.
     
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    Give the best featherweight or 130 pounder right now some PEDS and see how he does against Cotto.
     
  23. loadedgloves

    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I've been critical of Floyd many, many times on this board, which disqualifies me from "groupie" status by definition. If you were capable of reading beyond a 3rd grade level, you might have picked up on this. In fact, from this very thread -

    And of course, you once again engage in the appeal to authority argument - "everyone agrees with me! everyone is on my side!" That does nothing at all to advance your logic, it just makes you look like a little bitch who can't stand on his own two feet. A low testosterone, low intelligence argument, perfectly suited for you. Have you seen a doctor about hormone replacement therapy yet?
     
  24. mexican wedding shirt

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    Oh wow, you called Floyd a tool!

    You really had no choice, it's beyond obvious by now that Floyd doesn't want to fight Manny.

    Before then, you always, always defend Floyd, without fail.

    The penny finally dropped recently and you realised what most of us have realised for 2 years, that Floyd doesn't want to fight Manny.

    Even just the other day you were like "Hmm, well, it's a case of he said/she said". Talk about delusional, fuck :lol:

    What most of us realise now is that neither really wants to fight the other, but you held on for a pretty long time to the idea that Floyd does want the fight.

    "But, but, he started a Twitterbeefs!" :lol:

    The idea of you calling me a nuthugger is utterly absurd. I think Pacquiao is an amazing fighter, no more, no less.
     
  25. mexican wedding shirt

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    BTW Stevie, regarding Bradley, I agree I wouldn't be shocked if little Timmy won. I've always been a Bradley believer, he's solid to a tee.

    The thing is, I think Bradley is hittable and aggressive enough for there to be a possibility of Pacquiao doing a number on him. But what really goes in Bradley's favour is IMO Pacquiao has become a bit soft. Bradley is a determined little fucker, I think to beat him Pacquiao has to be prepared to go to war and take some risks.
     
  26. steve_dave

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    Yeah I see it the same way. I just think Bradley could be the right fighter at the right time.
     
  27. loadedgloves

    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Does anyone recall the Pactards making the claim that Pac did poorly against JMM in the second bout because he was drained and had a tough time making 130? He came in at 145 against JMM in that fight. Now he weighs in at around 148 on fight night. MWS is going to be scratching his head for the next few weeks trying to figure out how someone could move up 3 divisions and only gain 3 lbs. There must be some magical amount of mass SOMEWHERE he added, he doesn't look like he has any weight to lose in his weigh in pics at 147!

    A great 130 lber who weighs in at 145 on fight night and has something against drug tests having success against a bevy of handpicked mediocre 147 lbers? Shocking.
     
  28. steve_dave

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    Before he fought MAB, most thought Pacquiao was a chinny 122lber.
     
  29. whiskey

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    I won't be picking an upset, but the possibility is certainly there. I worry about a lousy end to the fight because of a headbutt too. Not just because it's Bradley, but Pacquiao being a southpaw makes a head clash all the more likely.
     
  30. *Z*

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    I'm definitely a fan of Pac, but nowhere near a nuthugger. I don't say anything that the majority of the forum doesn't agree with. I guess that makes you and Sly the only guys who aren't Pac nuthuggers.
     

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