Miguel Cotto actually calls out Mayweather

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  1. Erratic

    Erratic "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    It's tough to say exactly if and when Mayweather "broke" Hatton in round 8.

    Floyd hit him with basically every punch in the book during round 8.
     
  2. dsimon3387

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    dsimon writes:

    hate to open myself up to derision but I basically agree with StreetFighter.... Basically. Hatton had a better chance than Cotto. He couldn't close the gap like he normally could because Floyd is that good. Cotto would get wrecked... And Cotto is one of my favorites.
     
  3. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    okay....but Castillo was/is Mayweather toughest fight to date....and Castillo style is similar to Cotto....Cotto is just better at everything :dunno:
     
  4. Streetfighter

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    At least someone agree's. lol

    Fact of the matter is Mayweather has proven me right in every fight, and until he does not I won't go against the guy.
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    unless he is fighting Ricky Hatton...:lol:
     
  6. Streetfighter

    Streetfighter WBC Champion

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    No I picked Mayweather, just said Hatton would be a tough fight for him and he was, but I don't think Cotto will be.
     
  7. Baron

    Baron "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    You agree that Cotto won't do better than Henry Frickin Bruseles? D, you've lost your mind.:lol:
     
  8. Streetfighter

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    I said he won't do better other than last longer, I am not saying he is not better than Brus. though, there is a major difference there. It's just a matter of styles nothing against Cotto. Fight won't happen till this time next year anyway and for all we know Mayweather could get old overnight. It happens. How old is he now? Never mind I looked he is 30, almost time for him slow down
     
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  9. Streetfighter

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    I am actually surprised nobody jump on my comment about Oscar having a better chance to beat Mayweather.
     
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    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Why would they? Oscar gave Floyd the toughest fight he's ever had.

    I disagree that Hatton was THE fight to be made. At the time it happened, it was no longer THE fight. Hatton vs Mayweather should have happened when both guys were at 140. Mayweather and Cotto was and still is THE fight that needs to happen at 147.

    I completely disagree with you about Cotto being an easier fight than Hatton. Cotto would wreck Hatton I have absolutely no doubt about that. Cotto will be Floyd's toughest fight for sure.
     
  11. mikE

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    I would have agreed with this prior to the Hatton Mayweather fight. Now, playing 20/20 hindsight I guess I'd say Cotto will be tougher for Floyd. But you could be right.
     
  12. Baron

    Baron "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    That's probably because in comparison with your first comment about Cotto's chances, it looked like it was coming from a boxing genius.
     
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    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    it was still the fight to be made, even if it would have been better at 140.

    The ppv numbers, the sellout, the hype...all suggest it wouldn't have been any bigger at any other time with Floyd doing his part beating dlh and Hatton doing his part beating Castillo.
     
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    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Nice. :lol:
     
  15. Streetfighter

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    I think people are confusing the fact that I think Hatton was a tougher fight with think Hatton is a better fighter. I do not believe that. It's strictly a style match up that I think is easier for Floyd. Hatton was quicker in foot and hand and his pressure against Floyds style is better imo than Cotto's will be.
     
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  17. Mitchell Kane

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    Its well known that Top Rank wouldn't put Cotto in the ring with Mayweather at 140. Its also pretty well known that when Floyd went to 147 there were bigger fights there for him then Cotto when both moved up in 2005.

    Then right after the Hatton fight Bob already scheduled 2 fights for Cotto in 2008 and neither of them is with Mayweather.

    Its also well known that Cotto wanted to fight the same guy that Mayweather wants and is going to fight O$car de la Hoya.

    Once Mayweather fights and probably beats De la Hoya in September and Cotto beats up on Gomez then probably Margarito and Mayorga these guys will have to fight.

    Its a good start for Cotto to start badmouthing Mayweather hopefully Money will be sat reading his comments with Ellerbee telling him to "Make the fight fucking happen"
     
  20. Streetfighter

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    I was going to mention the whole, " Cotto is not ready for Floyd bit" that we had been hearing for the last 4 years, but it's been done to death. You are right, they had no intention of letting Cotto fight Floyd any time in the past.
     
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    Antwuan Maxx WBC Champion

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    Tought fight? How? I gave him one round. :lol: What has Hatton done lately to suggest he would be a tough fight for anyone? Knocking out a shot Jose Luis Castillo? :dunno:

    Cotto's hands are just as fast as Ricky's, if not faster. Hatton is more fleet footed, but Cotto clearly cuts off the ring better and has more variety to his attack. Like another poster pointed out, the dumb fucky got rocked then KO'd doing the same shit.

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    I guess he expected to take out Mayweather the way he did Carlos Maussa with a leaping left hook. :rolleyes:

    Can't see for the life of me why anyone would think Ricky Hatton would be a tougher match up then Cotto.
     
  22. Streetfighter

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    Cotto gets caught a lot as well he just fouls when he gets caught. He fights dumb at times as well coming forward when he is hurt. It has worked for him so far, but that does not mean much when he fights Floyd.

    I don't think Cotto's hands are faster than Hatton's, but he shortens his punch and punches straight, which maybe makes him look faster. I agree, he does cut the ring of well.
     
  23. Erratic

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    I thought that Cotto was/is a tougher fight for Mayweather due to him having these advantages over Hatton:

    Size
    Fluid Combos
    Jab
    Smoothness

    He can be very open when he attacks, like any fighter can be, but can be effective with his peek-a-boo defense. As any fighter, you lose some offense to gain some defense, and vice versa.

    I see the viewpoints of those who thought Hatton's less methodical and more swarming, quicker-footed, up-in-your-face-and-body, less time to reset style would give Floyd more problems, but I just didn't agree.
     
  24. Mitchell Kane

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    I think part of the problem with the belief in Hatton's style was the fact that, as in the Collazo fight, there were serious questions about whether he could maintain that style for 12 rounds at 147 or whether there'd be diminishing returns as the fight wore on.

    Cotto hasn't really shown those kinds of problems in his move up to 147.

    He did take his foot off the gas in the second half of the fight with Mosley, but that's after going to war with him over the first half, and that's also considering Mosley's style and the fact that he's simply a far superior fighter to Collazo.
     
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    :eek: Cotto called out Mayweather?? well he doesn't deserve the fight now

    why should Mayweather fight a guy who trashes him like that......why would he give him the satisfaction of earning some money from him
     
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    Who the fuck deserves to fight Mayweather then? :nono:
     
  27. Mitchell Kane

    Mitchell Kane WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Perhaps Mayweather only likes to be called out when it's been scripted by HBO. :dunno:
     
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    if Hatton doesn't have to fight Witter because he called him out, then why should Floyd :lol:
     
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    cotto will get his opportunity if he keeps winning. mayweather must first defeat wight, and delapartimer
     
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    dsimon writes:

    No barron, that was the purpose of the modifyer basically. I just think that Cotto is an easer fight for Floyd than Hatton and some of the reasons given by Street Fighter I agree with. I don't know about Bruseles. :dunno: Don't get Mex started on me again, one Hebe can be so cruel to another. :doh: :lol:
     
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