More trouble for Floyd

That's how I feel Double. It probably IS true, given that Floyd is obviously a scumbag, but with no proof, this case is insignificant.

 

Hearsay isn't stating what you observed. The accuser is basing his accusation on what he had direct experience of.

The accusation has credibility problems for different reasons, not for being hearsay.

 

I'm saddened to defend Mayweather in this situation.

And I repeat...not for a millisecond do I buy Floyd is afraid of Manny. he doesn't want the fight for legacy...it's about money.

His ego is such I firmly think in his mind other guys aren't worthy of facing him. Kinda like Tyson said YEARS ago..."How dare they challenge me with their somewhat primitive skills. They're just as good as dead."

That's Mayweather's mindset.

He's most likely thinking...I'm going to whup this little guys ass when *I* feel like it and on my terms. Not a minute before.

 

I see it the exact same way. Floyd's just arrogant and wants everyone to wait until HE'S ready and until HIS terms are met.

Love the Tyson quote...one of my favourites.

 

I must disagree Musze.

I don't think he's at home shitting his pants and fretting the beating he might get, not that kind of fear, quite simply - he's scared of losing.

Everyone knows it, Floyd RELIES on that 0. It's his whole raison d'etre as a fighter.

He's afraid of Pacquiao for the same reason that he's been afraid of challenging himself AT ALL for the 5 years he's been at welterweight, the same reason he has yet to face a prime, world class natural welterweight.

He'll only fight people he is 99.5% sure he can beat.

If he truly had no fear as a boxer, his resume would look significantly different, it's as simple as that.

Since the first Castillo fight he's cherry picked like crazy, because he's scared of losing.

If he was that confident about beating Manny, he'd fucking sign the contract and collect his easy $40 mil or whatever the amount, without a care in the world whether Manny is on PEDs or not.

 

I feel like I'm at a dairy farm...with the amount of Bullshit I smell.

Utterly ridiculous.

 

You're thinking from a rational point of view...not an irrational one meaning...Floyd's POV.

Besides...

I prefer it this way. Let Floyd have no doubt he'll lose, therefore when Manny gets in his ass it completely destroys him. Have his ass walking around in disguise like Floyd Patterson after Liston embarrassed him.

Then again...that was a bit different. Patterson was supposedly afraid before the fight.

I want Manny to take his heart.

I want Floyd to realize in the middle of the fight...I can't fucking beat this guy.

I LOVE how Corrales walked into the ring looking like a killer vs Floyd yet ended his night crying like a bitch, hurt and embarassed.

Floyd needs one of those nights....the bigger the event the more crushing...see Roy Jones as a prime example.

 

I dunno about Floyd having Iron Mike's mindset. Prior to the Douglas fight, Mike I think TRULY believed that he was invisible. Which explains why he stopped giving a shit, and stopped training.

Floyd talks like he thinks he's invisible... but inside I think he's a rather insecure man.

Is he scared shitless of Manny? I doubt it.

Is there SOME level of doubt in his mind about him beating Manny? I definitely think so.

 

What I wrote is perfectly logical and makes perfect sense. If you think it's ridiculous, it proves what an obscene Floyd groupie you are.

Why the fuck else would Floyd have managed to avoid challenge after challenger in his 5 years at welterweight? Because he is scared of losing.

 

But Musze, why else would Floyd have cherry picked quite so much, and managed to take the path of least resistance for FIVE YEARS at welterweight, unless what I say is true?

 

Wont happen.

If Floyd fights Manny the way he fought Judah and Mosley...Manny loses, and perhaps loses big. Manny doesn't like a consistent jab, doesn't like being backed up, doesn't react well to counterpunches (slows his workrate dramatically).

What makes me laugh is that people are so quick to dismiss the Morales and Marquez fights as just fights that occurred before Manny improved. Fight fans always fall for that. Those fights are more relevant than y'all realize.

Floyd will make it look easy and then people will say that Pacquiao was too small...or burned out..or distracted by his political aspirations or some shit.

I'd bet $100 (USD) with any poster here on this fight if it happens.

 

You think Margarito and Cotto were bigger threats collectively than Hatton, De La Hoya and Mosley? Really?

 

This logic is precisely why FloydIdiots give themselves a bad name and helps fuel Floyd's irrational thoughts.

With all of this said, why fight at all?

Manny whupping Floyd's ass wouldn't be a huge upset by any stretch. Would be a spectacle not an upset.

In fact, Rahman's KO of Lemmon was a bigger upset...Tarver's KO of Jones would be bigger...Tyson vs Douglas anyone?

It's not impossible or unlikely.

 

Very simple.

Easiest route to the most money.

 

I don't understand the question.

Ali promised many fighters that he'd beat them easily...what, he shouldn't have fought them after saying that?

 

Ali is a poor example.

Ali fought everyone...especially in the 70's. If you look at almost any top ten list for heavyweights Ali fought all of them. he earned the right to talk shit.

We've covered this...Floyd's list of guys he could have fought but didn't is longer than the list of guys he did and beat.

 

But he would have beat all of them anyway which just as good.

 

:giggle:

I really have to stop engaging in conversations with you guys...it's a pointless exercise...and I can be more productive in my work.

 

True...but it's more than that. I want to say I happen too to think that Floyd is talented. There are very few guys out there who can go so long in a fight, indeed a career, without so much as getting a broken nose, a flooring, losing rounds, getting busted up etc.

Floyd is an exceptional fighter. Period.

The beef with Floyd for me is a combination of factors: his arrogance outside the ring, his failure to make certain fights, and, crucially his insistence that those few fights he takes are taken under his terms, at his weight, at his notice, etc.

He then breaks his own contracts and stipulations, and buys his way into a stronger position. He then compounds this with largely boring performances which he follows up with aggressive and arrogant put-downs of all and sundry, whom he claims have "disrespected him".

The reality of the matter is that it is Floyd who is doing the disrespecting.

Classic example of why not to like Floyd: Treating Shane Mosley as some sort of a habitual criminal who needed to be supervised at all times in case, at 38 years of age, he popped a pill that gave him the edge over the mighty Mayweather. Floyd does this against a pre-existing background of Floyd having AVOIDED Sugar when he was in his pomp, preferring to fight an old, broke-down version who was stuck for money and prepared to submit to Floyds degrading charade of blood testing, which, to compound matters, was invented by Floyd to weasel his way out of taking on a real test in Manny Pac.

Who is the habitual criminal here? It's Floyd. If it is either of them, it is Floyd. Not Mosley. Has Mosley broken the law, yes. Has Floyd, yes, like, 2 minutes ago as well.

Who treats other fighters like "Slaves"??? HBO? or Floyd? Here is some cash...I'm coming in heavier than we agreed. The fight is at 147 or it doesn't happen. Submit to my blood testing. Etc.

And in the background we have his jailbird pops and his jailbird uncle accusing others of breaking the law and calling people "faggits".

:dunno:

 

I think arguing Pac-Mayweather is pointless until it's signed.

Everything that can be said has been said.

 

:giggle: that cracked me up

 

The most bullshit you could ever smell on a dairy farm is one. One bull shit. The rest of it is cow-shit. You know, for a horse, you have a very hazy idea of how these things work. Or maybe that's just horseshit.

 

wtf is the "vegas lifestyle" when you dont drink or do drugs???

driving around with nothing to do but cause trouble? i used to do that when i jhad ust got my license :/

 

Well we WERE in agreement until you pushed the issue.

:bangh:

 

This is typical Sly:dunno: He is going to have the last word, if it means a disagreement, so be it.

 

Further proving how insecure he is.

 

Were Cotto, Plasterito and Clottey bigger threats than Oscar and Mosley?

100% yes. Do you really think otherwise? Really?

As scrubby as Plasterito is without his magic wraps, he's still a big, natural welterweight, something Floyd has NEVER faced.

Clottey again, is a natural welterweight, and in his prime, not old like Oscar and Mosley.

Incidentally you must have forgotten that Pacquiao wiped his arse with 2 of Floyd's 3 "biggest threats" at 147, Oscar and Hatton. In fact Manny destroyed Hatton at his natural weight.

That leaves Mosley. Mosley who in his next fight could only manage a draw against that bum Mora. Mosley who is basically 40 years old.

 

:bears::bears: total analytical and statistical pwnage:bears:

 

stop arguing whether or not Floyd is scared of Pac. Here's the proof that he definitely is:
Pac pulls prank on PBF

 

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