MOSLEY-MAYORGA A POSSIBILITY

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  1. Buddy Rydell

    Buddy Rydell Boxingpress Alumnus

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    Because Mayorga is fat and motivated solely by money. His last fight was at supermiddle against a shot Vargas, who he barely beat. Mayorga has had 4 fights in four years and was demolished in a couple of them. He's not exactly burning up the ratings other than his win overPiccirillo in 2005. I thought the Vargas fight was a goodbye for BOTH of them. :lol:
     
  2. Joe King

    Joe King WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    works for me.

    Pre fight Mayorga: I'm going to make Shane run into his wife's womb.

    Post fight Mayorga: I apologize to Shane and his precious wife. He is a great fighter.
     
  3. lb 4 lb

    lb 4 lb Fightbeat Gold Member

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    Cotto beat Shane with better placed punches, deceptive handspeed, and a jab. Mosley never looked like he was losing because he was too tired to keep up, if anything he looked the fresher of the 2 from the last 4 rds on.


    When Mosley fought Cruz and Estrada he was trying to rebuild his confidence and get back on top (something Judah needs to do). It worked for him.

    I'm not saying Cotto is a scrub at all, what I'm saying is that since Shane couldn't beat Cotto he likely won't get a fight with Floyd and if that doesn't happen, what's the point of hanging around and fighting on. If he wants to cash out with a Mayorga fight it's probably a good idea, I just don't want him to go out like Roy and Tito. I shouldn't worry though, Jin won't let that happen.
     
  4. Irish98

    Irish98 Leap-Amateur

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    Cotto hit Shane with a lot of punches because Shane lost his reflexes. He barely moved his head, he failed to use his gloves and arms to block punches, and he couldn't use his footwork to avoid punches like he used to. That, coupled with the fact that Shane did not let his hands go, was what cost him the fight.

    Seeing him getting beaten by a guy who he would have bludgeoned in his prime tells me that he's shot. Same goes for Roy. I'd rather see them retire than lose to some scrub. In my eyes, it doesn't hurt their legacies because they're both shot but haters like to take that kind of stuff and spin it.
     
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    Shane was never considered a defensive wiz. Although he did have good defensive reflexes his penchant for boarderline brawling made him rarely use them.

    I felt it was Cotto's very deceptive handspeed that gave Shane problems. The fact that Cotto would move so slow then all of a sudden unleash a fast punch didn't allow Shane time to get out of the way. Also, Cotto displayed some very impressive accuracy with his punches. There were some rounds Shane landed more but I felt he lost because Cotto's punches were so much more precise.

    Shane's reflexes seemed fine in the Collazo fight, yet when he went up against Cotto he looked like a much lesser fighter. He wasn't even catching hooks with his earmuffs defense. On my 2nd viewing I felt the fight wasn't very close and that Cotto won about 8 rds to 4.

    I don't know how shot Shane is but even this version of him would beat Mayorga pretty soundly. Mayorga is shot his damn self and was never that good to begin with. Mayoraga is a skillless brawler who's tough. Shane is a skillful brawler who may in fact be tougher. How's Mayorga gonna win? :dunno:
     
  6. joony

    joony "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    about 2/3 years too late.
     
  7. whiskey

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    Obviously. Perhaps you should have read some replies to the thread.
     
  8. LATIN KING

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    funny how some people don't wanna give Cotto his props. Acting like Shane would have beat him easy back in 2000 :laughing:

    Cotto is not Shanon taylor or any of them scrubs Shane was feasting after he beat Oscar.

    Cotto is an elite fighter and we still don't know how good he will be. The big fights are supposed to tell how good a fighter is.

    Going into the Mosley/Cotto fight most saw it as 50/50, now that Cotto beat him fools are acting like it's cause Shane is old. I guess if Cotto beats Oscar or Floyd is because they're old and past it too.:doh:

    Mosley was Cotto's first big fight and he beat him clearly, he still has more big fights to go to determine how good Cotto will be.

    Maybe MOsley would have beaten im back in his prime but let's not pretend Cotto is some mediocre fighter that just beat an old Shane :nono:
     
  9. joony

    joony "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    perhaps you should go suck a dick
     
  10. ILLUMINATI

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    werd.....
     
  11. Hex-One

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    Very well said!:bears:
     
  12. Double L

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    i wouldn't call Cotto's win over Mosley a "clear" win. it was without controversey, but certainly the case could be made for Mosley having won it. that's not, "clear" in my book.
     
  13. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    NO....8-4 COTTO...7-5 at worst...
     
  14. joony

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    mosley himself admitted that he lost.
     
  15. Irish98

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    Cotto is a good fighter. But let's face it. He's not in Shane's league - a prime Shane, that is.

    Shane IS old. How can you say he's not old? Pop in a tape of Mosley-DLH I and then watch Mosley-Cotto immediately afterwards. The difference is drastic.

    If Cotto beats Oscar, it's because Oscar IS old. I don't think anyone would pick Cotto to beat a prime Oscar. Now, if Cotto beats Floyd, that would be extremely impressive. However, I think Floyd easily outboxes Cotto.
     
  16. LATIN KING

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    Sure Mosley is old in comparison to his prime. but not in the boxing landscape. The guy is still a pretty good fighter.

    Going into the fight it was a toss up that's why it was the most awaited fight of 2007. So when Cotto beat him let's not pretend it was all because of Shane's age and not give Cotto his props.

    My point is that Cotto is an elite fighter who is still getting better. So it's stupid to asume Mosley would have beaten him easy in his prime.

    What elite fighter did Mosley handle in his prime? The first Oscar fight was competitive and the rematch was controversial.

    I don't need to remind you what happened against the other elite fighters like Forrest and Winky. Hell even Vargas gave him a tough fight the first time around.

    Let's not pretend Shane was killing elite fighters in his prime. Maybe he cleaned house at lightweight but he never beat anybody elite back then. :popcorn:
     
  17. LOK

    LOK I'll eat your asshole alive

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    I'm still not sure on Cotto.. he is kind of a bitch ass hoe
     
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    Cotto would rape you.
     

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