First he would not fight the best in those divisions..he has been at Welter for 5 Years and he successfully avoided fighting Cotto, Margarito, Williams, Clottey, Cintron, Mosley(till now), etc...etc.. and if Mayweather fought the equivalent of LaMotta, Gavilan, Armstrong, Maxim, Graziano, Olson, Fullmer, Basillio, etc...then he would be consider equal or greater than ROBINSON....MAYBE... but MAYWEATHER NEVER tried TO BE GREAT....
No, their first fight was close but the rematch was dominated by Robinson. They were both welterweights.
1. Yep, 16 months ago. Which is a long time ago in boxing, ESPECIALLY for a 39 year old fighter. Unless you are a mindless Mayweather groupie desperately trying to make this fight more significant than it really is. 2. First, :laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing: Also, just when I thought you couldn't be more of an attention whore.
I'm almost positive Floyd wins, but I'm going with my heart and picking Mosley by controversial split decision. A man can dream, can't he?:: COME ON, SHANE!!!!!!!!!!!
I've got Mayweather winning as well...seems like that's the popular decision across the board. With that said, contrary to Sly's "Mayweather winning is good for boxing" line...I disagree. It's times like this when the unexpected happens, that's what drives the game forward. I'd like Mosley to win for several reasons. I see the mistakes Floyd makes that Shane can capitalize on. The unknown is what Mosley has left at age 39 and a year and a half of inactivity. if Shane were as active or is in the same form he was for the Cotto fight, I think that version of Shane beats Mayweather. I don't believe Mayweather has the toughness to handle the shots Cotto took late in that fight. The Marquez fight was a sparring session and if you really look at it, Floyd hasn't been in a real fight since 2002...the first Castillo fight. You've got to credit him for that but at the same time I wonder how he'll deal with adversity if he's cut or swells around the eyes etc. That's what I want to know. If I'm Mosley...sometime in the first round or two...the first time we're tied up I'm using my free hand to punch Floyd dead in the balls...let him know he's in a fight. make him angry...make him want to fight. Perhaps Floyd will answer the call and take Shane out...perhaps he'll bitch up. if we see Floyd complaining to the ref saying Shane's dirty, then we're in for a real fight. I suspect Floyd will be his normal passive self early...attack in spots then make more of an effort later in the fight to win going away...8-4 like most have said. What happens if Shane buzzes him early and gets him out of his comfort level? I want to see a fight break out.
Muzse, I'm not sure if the Mosley that fought Cotto beats Floyd. Floyd is not only far more elusive, and smarter then Cotto, but he has a better chin then Miguel also. I think the 2001 Mosley beats Floyd, but the Cotto version of Mosley would lose, but would manage to have his moments late.
WTF? Did you even see how many damaging shots it took from the likes of Margarito and Pacman to ultimately put down Cotto? Fraud F*ckweather would no way in hell absorb that kind of leather from the likes of those two guys. He doesn't have anywhere near the toughness of Cotto. It's why Fraud is such a defensive pussy. And besides, we already saw him get badly hurt in that Corley fight from a punch that didn't even seem that hard.
So Floyd isnt as tough as Cotto because he doesnt get hit as much? Floyd has the reflexes and skills to avoid getting hit, why not use them? What you think Miguel gets hit by CHOICE? And bringing Corley into the arguement is where you really fucked up cause Corley had Cotto OUT ON HIS FEET, whilst he only momentarily stunned Floyd.
I think he means that PBF would not have been able to take the same amount of Punishment that Cotto absorbed. Its hard to gauge the quality of PBF chin because of the fact he rarely gets hit clean.
I'm giving an example of Fraud getting hurt. I think ever since the Castillo I fight, he's been ultra defensive and only attacks when the other guy has nothing to offer. He doesn't have so much faith in his chin and you can see just how scared he is of getting tagged by Oscar with that constant backfoot rope a dope bullsh*t he pulled for 12 rounds. Also look how defensive he was against Bumdomir.
he's always been that way unless he's on PEDs, like he was against Corley and N'dou. when he's not on PEDs, he's cautious.
It isn't. He's scared to death of taking a shot! There's a reason for it. People say "Well Fraud don't get hit cause he got the skills to avoid getting hit!" But there's a lot more to it. Nobody fights the way he fought against Oscar and Bumdomir if they aint' scared to take a hit. Fraud is just like Roy Jones. Relying purely on defense and reflexes. Once those are gone, this f*cker's gonna be taking it up the ass from most every decent fighter when his defensive sh*t no longer works.
Floyd will have more longevity than Jones for sure, his athletic talent has diminished since he left 130, but he still has an elite boxing brain.
I don't think Floyd's really had his chin tapped...plus Cotto took a hell of a beating from maragrito before giving up. Floyd would never take those shots. More importantly, it was body punches which forced Cotto into retreat. I've always thought Mayweather didn't handle body shots well. If Shane gets an opportunity to crank one off into his ribcage it changes the fight. Trust me on this.
should have read this first...it's exactly what I mean. Plus, Cotto had been in some peril and made it through...it's been awhile since Mayweather's been in a real scrap. It makes all the difference in the world thus my wanting to see adversity and how Floyd deals with it. It's easy to be a frontrunner.
I agree that the body is the key for Shane. Also the punch which he can possible hurt Floyd with wont be his right hand IMO, it'll be his left hook. Hopefully he still has the speed to jump in and catch Floyd with that hook.
Maybe not jumping in, but if I was Shane I'd try shooting the right hand to Floyd's body, then coming up top with the hook. Mosley's left hook has always been his most powerful punch, even though his uses the right more. But we all agree that he has to force Floyd into a dog fight. What afraid of is that Shane will get caught trying to play a chessmatch with May, and thats exactly what Floyd wants.