weighted vests are awesome.. I've been going with the dumbells in a backpack though.. too cheap to buy shit if I can use what I have
Hey Lok, thats a nice idea Im gonna start looking around for the vest this week but thats a good substitute. I just found this page on different chin grips, they even have a gymnasts chin routine, it looks tough! http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/charles4.htm Im on the leg extended chins right now and I'll move on to the other stuff later.
i'll tell you I pretty much ONLY do chins now with my legs out in front of me.. it really works your core while doing chins
wHY? i WANT TO start weights again. I never thought it was healthy though. Lok, I want to make my chest huge!! What shoudl I do and how often? I have a build like Margarito basically theworst for building up chest muscles.
pushups are the best thing in the world.. but if you really wanna gain size.. heavy flat and incline bench can not be beat.. sets of 4-6 reps intially.. then once you get strong.. I'd stay in the 10-15 rep range
I probably do 400 pushups a week.How many at once; how often do you recommend, I also do bridges. I got sick of taking pain killers so I am doing mad situps. Well, mad is relative. I do 500 3 times a week and on the bowflex. My lower back is rellay f'd up. I walk hunched over so I am trying to make my core strong. I really think if I build up my chest it will push my upper body back and straighten out my spine and remove the pain.
Bridging really REALLY helped my back.. 400 a week is nothing if you want your chest to get big.. you really gotta bench.. if not and you wanna do it with pushups.. strive for 100 straight.. and at least 500 per day
I think building up your chest will just pull your shoulders further forward. Certainly thats what generally happens if the chest is strong relative to the back. You'd probably be better served doing barbell rows & chin ups. Also superman isometric holds are brilliant for posture as they contract every muscle in your body which keeps you in extension at once. And, as unconnected as the two things sound, posture issues are often related to overly tight hamstrings, so it might be worth trying stretching them.
Isolation exercises can't be beat.....your arms can give out before your chest does when benching. So by definition, benching can be beat. Low reps implies heavy weights, it's better to work down in reps.... 10, 8, 6 reps in that order, increasing weight each set and getting your muscles prepared for the heavier weight to help prevent injury. I question your logic....
Low reps- heavy weights.. = stronger higher reps.. 10-15 is more of a pump and promotes growth.. powerlifters are more in the low rep range, bodybuilders in higher reps.. I say Bench can not be beat becasue it is the staple exercise of chest.. isolation exercises are sissy IMO.. to build size and strength compond movements are key
10 8 6 covers that. You go for 15, you just contradicted yourself. You do 15 reps in sets, you miss just one or two days you lose more mass than you would with lower reps. Bench press uses many other muscle groups, you can say isolation is sissy.....but I was more built in my chest @ 19 than you probably were at any time of your life. So at least I have proof isolation works, especially by defintion it ISOLATES building that muscle.....which is exactly what someone here WANTS At the very least you MUST incorporate isolation exercises with good all around movements if you want to pinpoint a muscle group......body builders have been doing this since Arnold, it's really common sense and can't be argued against without talking out of your ass.
:: the funny thing is I mostly agree with you.. but when asked for a simple way to put on size to the chest.. I still say the Bench is king
Fine, but throw in an isolation exercise :: I incorporate decline bench and incline bench with dumbell flyes, works very well. I do not necessarily completely disagree with you either. Ike should give it a try :cheer:
To develop a nice big chest, you do have to bench (whether it be barbell or dumbbells), but you also have to do isolation exercises. If you pre-exhaust your pectorals with flyes or pec deck flyes or crossovers, then you don't have to worry about your arms giving out before your chest does. Heavy dumbbell benchpresses done right after flyes will thicken up the ol' lower chest as will heavy incline dumbbell benchpresses done right after heavy dumbbell flyes for the upper chest. Doing only isolation exercises is not a good idea. You need compound movements as well as isolation exercises or else you might develop a muscle imbalance and be more predisposed to injury.
That reminds me of the movie Clueless where the girl says, "Remember when I had anorexia? That was the best diet EVER!" ::
I just want to note I have noted all of your suggestions and I done nothing about it yet::::Thanks though. I don't understand half the shit you guys are saying. I planned on doing 500 pushups but my phone rang, maybe Friday. Buddy, referencing Clueless in an all male forum is "suspect" at best. ::
hey ike you should get into dips for your chest...and lean forward when doing them benching is for teenyboppers :kick:
like this guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RujuYeyopeU&feature=related could do these at home in some places i'm sure...like if you have 2 stools or something
Lok- I did 250 pushups after I jogged(I use the word liberally) 6 miles. I think 500 a day is a month away maybe 2. How long do I have to wait inbetween sets? I did sets of 25 to 30. They aren't fun at all.
awesome Ike! :bears: that's a hell of a start! I'd say don't get over ambitious or it sometimes backfire.. too sore and too tired.. you gotta work it up slowly.. that is a hell of a start though, I'm impressed. in between sets is all up to you, I know some that watch a clock and time X amount of seconds or minutes and some will just watch a comercial or tv for a bit.. it's up to you. I like to do pushups while watching TV, during a comercial i'll do them and when a show is back on I'll rest.. this way over the course of an evening you might do lots of pushups and not really even notice due to the long breaks
I guess I am asking how long is too long? I mean, I used to stay at the kickboxing gym for 4-5 hour blocks. People thought I was a freak. If you take breaks, your body can recharge. I am serious about building my chest. Not to be too graphic but I have no ass and no chest. My dna coded and I guess those two things never coded. My chest is sore a little. What is crazy is during the day I will bust out into a sweat. I must be doing something because I can feel my body burning fat, not that i HAVE much. I am built allot like Margarito or DLH. My chest just seems to never grow. I willing to really work hard just to prove scientists right. I have heard everyone say if you work the muscle it will grow. Well, if that were true I would look like Dolly Parton with Jon Holmes' cock. I know genetics are basically everything. I just want to make my chest as big as possible.
