Not bad for an old man

So Sayeth Fightbeat's Resident Tough Guy & Roid Rager, Master's Degree in SKEPTICISM, Bachelor's in CONTRARIAN Arts...

The Story's Been Out There Since BEFORE You were Born, Dipshit...No One Who's Heard the Story and Come in Contact w/Ray Leonard DOUBTS the Legitimacy of It...It's NOT Even a Story Curry Himself Volunteers to People...

But Yeah, Some Canadian Blowhard w/Make Believe Muscles, employee's Level of "Combat Skills" and a Doctorate Fresh Out of a Gumball Machine KNOWS the Truth...







REED

 

REED's Only Ever Called YOU and mikE "Contrarian"...






REED

 

This makes absolutely no sense, and is full of unproven "truth" (nobody doubt the legitimacy of it, , yeah sure) and of strawmen (ive never claimed to know the truth in this story). Pathetic, even by your lowly standard

 

Yep...

He's the Type of Motherfucker TROLLING Weather Sites, Predicting SUNSHINE When the Forecast is Rain...And/Or Beating His Chest Afterwards....

"I Always Knew _____ was an Average Weatherman @ Best and Never Got WHY Others Adhered to His Forecasts"...






REED

 

Motherfucker's BIRTH NAME is 'Devil's Advocate'...






REED

 

Nothing wrong with being skeptical, asking questions or looking at nuance. That's not what he does. He deliberately seeks out arguments not unlike any other troll.

One would figure somebody so educate and sophisticate would be above that even if it's only a message board.

 

Right...

Intellect is OBVIOUS...Those That Have It Don't Need to Constantly Remind Others They're in Possession of It...





REED

 

Your "thing" is pointless bone-picking

If there's a "conventional wisdom" about anything, you pipe up with a hot take to the contrary

Argument for the sake of argument... you'd probably argue Duran/Bizzarro was stopped too soon if three people posted about how horrifying it was ... you wouldn't provide a reason, you'd just argue

whereas Hot-Take Lord mikE, for example always has a reason even if the reason is batshit insane... you just do it to do it

 

Again, you make no sense, There's no conventional wisdom about the ''Curry-Leonard'' situation

 

JOM is a contrarian, but at the same time, Dogg and REED are known Curry apologists.

The "evil" Ray Leonard and his advisor shouldn't have had that much influence on a grown ass man.

If Curry absolutely knew his body couldnt handle 147 anymore, he should have been his own man and said the Hell with Mike Trainer's advice and moved up!

Theres so many excuses regarding that loss, and STILL, Honeyghan gets very little credit for kicking Curry's ass and making him quit.

IF Curry blames Leonard for his career not living up to expectations, that sounds a bit like a copout to me.

I rarely defend JOM, but just saying..

 

Exact''fucking''ly

This scenario implies that Leonard has some kind of supranatural foresight gift, and that he knew that Cury would lost to Honeyghan (and also relies on the assumption that Curry would have had succes moving up, which is far from a given). This is some crazy conspirationist shit

 

I say that as a Curry fan as well. I'm happy he made the HOF, he deserves it.

Maybe he shoulda been less fixated on becoming the second Ray Leonard, and focused on becoming the first Donald Curry.

 

Does seem a bit far-fetched.

That Leonard and Trainer foresaw the biggest boxing upset of the 80s.

I take exception because Honeyghan gets no credit.

Douglas gets plenty of credit for the Tyson upset.

The Curry apologists never give Honeyghan shit for that win.

 

Honeyghan was poorly trained (no speculation- established fact) and had to lose 20 pounds in a few weeks ... he was dead at the weight and it showed in the fight ... those are objectively true

Leonard's role in things could be totally nonexistent (it isn't and you two are ridiculous but I'll humor you) and it wouldn't matter ... Honeyghan did what he had to do but the guy he beat was a very different athlete than the one that brutalized Milt McCrory and outfought Marlon Starling

 

Agreed

I like Curry as a fighter, but it's annoying how his biggest fans have so many excuse for his losses.

Honeyghan: weight drained
Jacquot: Past his prime (even though he looked as good as ever 2 fights before against Rosi)
McCallum: Lucky punch, confidence shattered by the Honeyghan fight (even though he only lost that fight cause he was weight drained)

 

Honeyghan was was poorly trained? Or Curry?

 

Meant curry

 

Can't edit the post for some reason

 

Not Sure How Ya'll Gather Leonard/Trainer were Predicting the "Upset of the Year" in Curry-Honeyghan...

The POINT is, They Advised Curry to REMAIN @ '47 a Bit Looooooooooooonger...REED Doubts They Had Any Idea WHO Curry's Next Welterweight Opponent Would Be (or Cared), the POINT was to Get him to Stay @ Welter Looooooooooooonger So Ray Could Get the Fight HE Wanted Instead...Hagler...

Anyways, Fuuuuuuuurther PROVING REED's Point about Curry's PLAN to Move up and Face McCallum is an Old Sports Illustrated Article Written by Pat Putnam...Dated 12/16/85...The McCrory Fight was 12/6/85...Duly Note the Final Paragraph of the Article, Where Mike McCallum is Referenced as "Whom He'll Probably Fight Next" and Marvelous Marvin Hagler "Whom he Hopes to Fight in 1987"

Curry Was A Man In A Hurry

REED Also Found a Pre-Fight Profile Done By Larry Merchant on Curry (Just Prior to the McCallum Bout)...Among Other Things, it's Noted Curry Had to Lose 11 Pounds the Week of the Honeyghan Fight and that Curry SUED Leonard/Trainer Upon Learning Ray was Unretiring from Boxing...

http://imasportsphile.com/boxing-19...donald-curry-going-into-mccallum-title-fight/

The Final Link is Details of the Lawsuit...What's MOST Important is the TIMELINE...Curry Had a June '86 Date on the Table w/Mike McCallum, to Test the Waters Above '47, w/Hopes of Meeting Hagler @ '60 Sometime in '87...But Instead of Facing McCallum in June '86, Curry Faced Honeyghan September '86...

Per the Lawsuit, as Soon as Leonard/Trainer KNEW Curry-McCallum was Off the Table, Ray UNRETIRED and Faced Hagler April '87...Meanwhile, After the Upset Loss to Honeyghan, Curry Moved Up to '54 Fought in February and April of '87 Before Being KO'ed by McCallum in July of That Same Year...

Boxer Donald Curry has filed a $1 million lawsuit...

Bottom Line, The Timeline ADDS UP and Leonard/Trainer NEVER Deny Advising Donald Curry...They were Just Mum on WHAT They Advised Curry to Do, but we KNOW They Advised Curry Of Something...

Moving Forward, Please SPARE REED The "Curry Apologist" Bullshit, Unless You're Prepared to Do YOUR Fucking Homework on This Matter Also...Again, the TIMELINE Adds Up And Any Fighter/Promoter That's Had Dealings w/Ray Leonard KNOWS He's Capable of Shit Like This...








REED

 

Cos you are weak and wanting and need to put that keyboard down. Keyboards are for typists.

 

Fucking funny that Ray can hit the bag better than he can skip.

In 20 minutes, I can have a guy skipping like scratched CD and it would take weeks to train them to even begin to throw combos on the bag.

But Ray can throw combos and barely get his feet off the ground ::

 

You can give a me a list of posts and I can edit them TONIGHT. The forum isn't weak, he's weak.

 

Ray actually looks like he has a sneaky, white-person face.

 

You know what it takes to edit my posts? Brass keyboards.

 

Brass keyboards are only for closers.

 

When Ray finishes his flurry on the bag........he looks up at the Camera and for a split second, you can see he is literally demanding that people respect him and admire his flurry.

You can see it just before he laughs.......he glares right at the camera, all serious, demanding that he be respected.

 

When I plugged my new brass keyboard in, it wouldn't work, I think the lead was weak.

 

Go home and tell your wife your troubles.

 

You're a Pedo, Whiskey....a fucking Pedo. And like I tell all Pedo's..............GO PLAY WITH YOUR KIDS!!!

 

Where'd you learn to post you stupid fuckin idiot? Whoever told you that you could post with men?