OFFICIAL DISCUSSION: Floyd Mayweather Vs. Conor McGregor |August 26 2017

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  1. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I disagree up to a certain extent but even then, this has nothing to do with what I posted
     
  2. Rich ´Money´ Mustard

    Rich ´Money´ Mustard DIE!

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    That´s not my point.
    And for a start, I´m not anti-Boxing not by a long shot.

    The fights we have had this
    1 - And, who else, if Floyd came out of retirement, could he get such a payday (US$60-70million or something) fighting against? Pacquaio II? Highly doubtful.

    2 - The money aspect isn´t what I was pertaining to....but more the participation of people taking up boxing ages 8 and above.
    Add to that the amount of boxing-gyms left in the USA: shockingly low.
    Add to that that no-one teaches boxing at High School - or the NCAA, in Divisions 1-3, in any of the 50 states.
    Numbers are down....way down, and I´m looking to the next 5-10 years.

    3 - Sure, it won´t happen: how can a ´bigger´ (still never understood the ´bigger-man-at-same-weight´ argument in boxing, but still) fighter, and a counter-puncher and a southpaw at that......beat another, but the best, counter-puncher and defensive boxer since Pernell Whitaker?
    ´McGregor might catch Mayweather flush´ - no he won´t. He only does that when guys come at him.
    ´McGregor might corner Floyd and start tee-ing off´ - no he won´t. When have you seen McGregor trap anyone in the Octagon and tee-off. When has Floyd ever been trapped on the ropes and caught clean? Cotto couldnt do it, and Cotto hits much harder than McGregor.
    ´McGregor´s best chance is to rough-up Mayweather...turn it into a dog-fight´ - No. McGregor doesn´t fight like that and never has. He waits for guys to come in.

    Whatever angle you look at it from, you cannot see McGregor winning rounds let alone the fight. All he has is steam and momentum coming into this contest.
    Plus, he has to deal with the expectation that Floyd will be the faster/harder puncher in this fight.
     
  3. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

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    Well if you ever took Muay Thai you would know. And it has plenty to do with it. He put a boxing coach on his list, as Muay Thai teaches boxing along with other striking techniques.
     
  4. Bordon

    Bordon Undisputed Champion

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    I don't even know what the first statement means.

    The fad of training to be a cage fighter isn't effecting boxing at this point. The people in those gyms were never going to box or be any good at it. Billy Joe such and such...
     
  5. Rich ´Money´ Mustard

    Rich ´Money´ Mustard DIE!

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    I think JoM (and others) has misinterpreted my post(s) or being over-pedantic for the usual ´He hates boxing!!! He said its dead!! Blasphemous!!´
     
  6. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I've done some muay thai. And a lot of MMA fighters said that the most important striking art for MMA was boxing. So it makes me laugh when some loser who trained a few hours of MMA or MT think he's the absolute reference on it.

    And saying that a MT coach is similar to a boxing coach shows your lack of knowledge on either sport. There's a ton of difference technique wise between the two,
     
  7. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Anyone who list TaeKwanDo over boxing as one of the main component of MMA is either a fool or a troll.

    and the ''boxing is only relevant now cause it's an olympic sport'' was even more ridiculous.

    No misinterpretation on my part
     
  8. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

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    You will not find a Good, solid Muay-Thai MMA teacher that does not incorporate boxing in their technique. That was my point. Magus saying Muay-Thai is the same as him saying boxing.
     
  9. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

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    but this is the misunderstanding. He did not list it. In fact, he listed it side by side. TKD as an art is not taught in MMA gyms. TKD technique is taught a lot in MMA gyms, as well as Muay Thai, which incorporates lots of boxing. But boxing that is useful in an MMA capacity. If you try and use boxing the way pro boxers use it in MMA, you will be taken down at will. You have to use boxing in a capacity that allows you to throw your hands and still kick effectively. (Muay-Thai). A perfect example of effective TKD in MMA is this past weekend where Siver was Ax kicking and spin kicking BJ penn all over the ring. Siver is a TKD guy, but he also a Brazilian Jujitsu guy. Siver is limited because of his lack of Muay-Thai, but he is effective with the kicking tools he possesses that he gained from TKD.

    TKD as an art is garbage. Their philosophy is garbage. It's a traditional martial art so by that alone, it's garbage. But if you can learn some technique from it and incorporate into other things, it can only help and make you better in MMA all around. And knowing how to kick in MMA is just as important as knowing how to box. Which makes Muay-Thai one of the best things to learn because it incorporates both.
     
  10. Rich ´Money´ Mustard

    Rich ´Money´ Mustard DIE!

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    No. Just pedanticism

    My proof-reader must have missed "Boxing" off such an obvious list.

    I shall fire her without severance pay immediately...

    Next!
     
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  11. Rich ´Money´ Mustard

    Rich ´Money´ Mustard DIE!

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    And it makes you tough as nails...
     
  12. Destruction and Mayhem

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    Word. Magus you did say that shit, so you have to own it
     
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    Destruction and Mayhem PHASE ----3

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    For you MMA experts....list the styles makes fights Rock Paper Scissors

    Judo vs wrestling vs muay Thai vs Brazilian jujitsu etc
     
  14. Bordon

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    If I could be a master MMA guy with any style I'd be boxing, judo and TKD. Basically I'd Ali shuffle around and kick the shit out of people. If they got too close.... SH-ZAA!
     
  15. Rich ´Money´ Mustard

    Rich ´Money´ Mustard DIE!

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    There's a new one: CuntKickingIn-ido.

    I'm a black belt in it and you're the first vict...er....I mean pupil.
     
  16. Rich ´Money´ Mustard

    Rich ´Money´ Mustard DIE!

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    Guaranteed everyone on this forum watches this fight.
     
  17. Destruction and Mayhem

    Destruction and Mayhem PHASE ----3

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    Of course. Boxing fans love to hate on this fight but the fact is that it's an event that you can't miss.
     
  18. Bordon

    Bordon Undisputed Champion

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    I'll watch if my stream works. I'm eager to know what happens but I don't really care about seeing it.
     
  19. Destruction and Mayhem

    Destruction and Mayhem PHASE ----3

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    I'm hoping to see Floyd beat him down in a humiliating fashion so that no UFC person would have the temerity to ever step into the prize ring again.
     
  20. Anthony

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    Unless they are fighting Floyd, what would be the point?
     
  21. Muzse

    Muzse "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    You'd be wrong about that.
     
  22. Rich ´Money´ Mustard

    Rich ´Money´ Mustard DIE!

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    I can't see any reason why someone wouldn't.
    It's a one-off. A spectacle.
    Just curiousity alone ensures this is going to be the biggest fight ever.



    Unless of course you're so precious about 'the Sweet Science'....'Queensbury Rules'...then you'd miss it out of spite and therefore should have zero input or opinions on it.
     
  23. Destruction and Mayhem

    Destruction and Mayhem PHASE ----3

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    You'll watch it. You may watch it with your hands over your eyes, occasionally peeping through your fingers, but you'll still watch it. Its irresistible like the song of the sirens
     
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    Agreed. Anyone saying that they are not intrigued by this fight solely as a spectacle is simply lying.
     
  25. D MAN

    D MAN "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    This fight will be discussed, debated, and dissected for decades to come. I wouldnt miss it for the birth of my own child.
     
  26. meetthefeebles

    meetthefeebles Drunken Geordie Bastard

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    I'll be watching, but watching behind my hands. It'll be the only time in a decade I'll be willing Mayweather to spark out his opponent, and in short order. Make no mistake about it - even if he is 'retired' and 40 years old: the damage it would do to boxing, by comparison to the impact it would have on UFC/MMA, would be absolutely enormous if he doesn't win and win quickly. The concern is that Mayweather has routinely shown that 'legacy don't pay the bills', so he'll have no real motivation to KO this bloke to make his point. He's shown time and again that he's happy to coast to a comfortable win so long as he keeps his '0' and gets his money. As others have said, if he does so here, it will be horrendous.

    The odd thing is that, in normal circumstances, I'd find it absolutely hilarious if Mayweather lost. In this case, it would be disasterous to the sport of boxing.

    MTF
     
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    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    I love boxing more than I hate Floyd, and Floyd winning a boring decision would be horrible for the sport.

    Therefore I'm rooting for Floyd to do what he SHOULD do, destroy McGregor in a few rounds. Doing so will put these faggot ass MMA fans in there place.

    I'm not holding my breath though. Floyd hasn't had an aggressive mentality in 10 years, AND I think the fix is in for Floyd to carry him.

    Pretty Boy Floyd was about beating guys up and going for stoppages.

    Money Gay has been about potting for 12 rounds and collecting a check.
     
  28. meetthefeebles

    meetthefeebles Drunken Geordie Bastard

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    Basically AgREED. The Mayweather who lit Chico up wins this in about a minute. This version of Floyd could well coast to a boring 12 round decision and not give a flying fuck about it.

    MTF
     
  29. Destruction and Mayhem

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    Agreed with Xplosive and Feebs. I want Floyd to dominate him for the good of boxing. TBH I think Floyd will go for the KO, but only after he's "tenderized" him for a few rounds first. Floyd isn't going to risk anything by going for a quick knockout. He'll feel him out for a couple rounds then soften him up for a few rounds and then go for the stoppage in around the 6th round. That's my prediction
     
  30. Slice N Dice

    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

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    I don't see it going past 4, personally. Talk about Floyd coasting these days etc, that's against BOXERS. McGregor is going to get hit from angles he never knew existed, it'll be way too much for him.
     

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