OFFICIAL DISCUSSION: Floyd Mayweather Vs. Conor McGregor |August 26 2017

That's what surprised me the most in that fight to be honest. The fact that McGregor is a pillowfist in boxing while he's an absolute destroyer in MMA.

Really make you realise how the top punchers in boxing completely mastered the biomechanical movement to maximise the weight transfer on their punches.

 

A combat sport Id like to see: boxing with standing wrestling/throws added. If the fight goes close you grapple for a dominant position or throw but once that's established the ref resets the action like after a clinch. No crotch to crotch rolling on the ground bullshit (which you'd never voluntarily do in a real fight situation anyway) but with a practical grappling aspect included. I suspect you'd end up with less boring clinching than you see in boxing now.

 

'Can't fight on the inside'... yet nearly every time it went there he controlled mayweather' balance, spun him around, often positioned him on the ropes. Doing that sort of thing to other fighters has been one of floyds biggest strengths down the years, too

 

yeah. For jabs & straight crosses, those were probably pretty hard, but they're still just jabs & crosses. Same for the uppercuts he threw - looping arm uppercuts, not generated through spin of the torso

Guess hooks just aren't so useful in mma, that's why they don't learn them. When you're in that close then it goes straight into grappling

 

I think the lead hook is still the most common KO punch in mma to be fair? I might be wrong but I think I heard that somewhere

 

well, I just mean he can't do that aspect of fighting inside which is usually necessary if you want to knock someone out, and which I learned from just a few months of boxing training - throwing an inside hook or uppercut, where you plant your feet and use spin of the hips and shoulders to generate the power. Instead when Floyd was up against the ropes in his guard, mcgregor was still throwing straight punches

 

lead hook from the outside maybe, but hooks on the inside, where you're standing next to your opponent - guessing they're rare

 

Mcgregors style reminded me of tyson furey.

 

A cross is more powerfull than a lead hook, and even mcgregor cross seem like a caress.

They learn the short inside left hook. They simply not put nearly enought time practicing it to bring it to a world class boxer level. My former coach was an ukranian champ, and he told me that his own coaches were making him throw only left hooks for hours per day. A mma guy cant put this kind of time on only a punch

 

Floyd walks down a huge McGregor but boxes a small JMM...it must be cos of McGregors skills!
Promising to come forward ever since the fight was announced? That's cos Floyd knew the danger he was in for!

 

Floyd promises excitement every time. Meaningless. If he could have won in a safety first manner without getting hit he would of and if you think otherwise you haven't been paying attention these last 15 years.

A combo of mcgregors reach, movement/distancing and, of course, floyds age/condition necessitated it. And mcgregors shitty stamina/pacing allowed it to work.

 

You're missing some good analysis from JoM, Hut

 

Shit, another deathbed regret

 

I'll rewatch the fight tonight or tomorrow, there's every chance i have the whole thing wrong; I'm mostly defending a position out of bloody mindedness here.

I liked a lot of what mcgregor did early though, both inside and outside, very entertaining

 

I'm wondering if you're trolling here...

So if Floyd could have won in a boring manner (and have the crowd boo him and cry in the post fight), he would have...

 

I'm saying if floyd could have avoided getting punched in the face and swinging at air so much he would have. And you're asking if I'm trolling.

 

So basically something like this:

 

HutHut is the coolest guy ever, but he can't see properly here. He is actually praising hippety-hop leap-amateurism where a nice uppercut and couple of rounds won is important, if only had he been able to sustain it. Amir Khan would have dominated Floyd much more impressively for three rounds

Perhaps Hut can't see through the thick, vanished beard

 

I do like the beard, it's true.

 

Agreed, even with all the money I had on the fight, I wasn't worried one bit when Floyd ''lost'' the early rounds. McGregor simply sucks as an elite boxer, not power (that was the biggest surprise imo), no coordination, no stamina. I got to give him credit that he's decent at gaging distance but he would get crush vs any young lions in his weight class.
At best, he's regionnal level

 

Lol, Khan would beat the floyd of now imo. And quite handily too

 

that was the biggest surprise imo. Floyd was feather fist as usual, but he was the puncher last night

 

Yeah, mcgregors lack of power certainly surprised me a bit too. I wasnt expecting it to fully translate but there was less there than expected

 

Maybe. He'd certainly be a way more formidable fighter after 5 rounds than a guy with a 0-0 record. But mcgregor showed me a better grasp of angles and distance in 6 minutes than boxbot Khan has in 13 years....leaving aside the way he controlled the clinch to his advantage.

 

He possibly win at this point... ONLY because Paulie is shot to all Hell. But even now I'd make Paulie the favorite, provided he gets in shape.

Prime Paulie would beat the fuck outta McGregor, which is saying alot cause Paulie doesn't "beat the fuck" outta a lot of guys.

 

i dunno, on second viewing Conor looks even crappier than i first saw
i just see Floyd walking down a much bigger guy, giving him zero respect