OFFICIAL DISCUSSION: Floyd Mayweather Vs. Conor McGregor |August 26 2017

Groupthink Tardies annoy me.

 

I am going to make one of those gypsy videos.


"Hello der Floyd, I seen yer fight against yer man, on the television, SKY, and .........if you think you can come here to this car park and be the man, then I will give you the batin of your focking loife."

 

I agree

 

I know, it's absolutely insane. Have you seen that fucking meathead Schaub salivating over Conor? It's painful to watch. He's one of the people that kept banging on about this magical "MMA distance" that Floyd wouldn't know how to deal with, and not coming at Floyd "like a boxer". It's a boxing match, fucktard, what's he going to do, ninja rolls and karate chops? And "MMA distance" is simply called out of range in a boxing ring. The MMA community are embarrassingly stupid, and I say that as someone who has been a fan of MMA since I walked into HMV as a kid and bought UFC 1.

Did you see the Van Heerden interview when he said Conor's power is nothing really, and Canelo's power is scary?

 

Do it.

 

One thing I will say is Conor is obviously not your average 0-0 pro boxer, he has a boxing background, basically outboxes people who don't know how to box in a cage, and has better boxing than anyone in MMA apart from possibly Cody.

He's the only person other than Cody who wouldn't get completely clowned in pro boxing. He's probably somewhere between a regional to national level pro. How do guys think he'd do in a boxing match against a British level fighter like Eggington, or indeed his arch rival Paulie?

The average MMA fighter would look truly terrible in a boxing match. Have you guys seen Cockhold sparring, and TJ sparring Lomachenko?

 

I think MMA guys fall in love with their power because it doesn't take much to knock out someone when you land cleanly with 4oz gloves.

In boxing it actually takes more technique and work to develop that power.

 

Are you seriously comparing the sparring between a wrestler turned MMA fighter vs. the greatest amateur boxer of all times? Are you listening to yourself?

 

True, and because of the amount of levels there are in boxing, and how many fights you need to work up to world level, guys with no chin or no power tend to get weeded out.

Basically as Floyd has said, elite boxers can give it and also take it. Boxers hit ridiculously hard with even short shots, but also they have excellent chins compared to MMA fighters. They've been taking shots since they were kids, they know how to take them, they how how to avoid them, they know how to roll with them and minimise damage etc.

Most fights between elite pros tend to go the distance, you can't rely on power, or at least can't rely on power playing the main role in the fight, at all. It's why Lomachenko was laughing at Conor's gameplan of KOing Floyd.

 

I was thinking that if McGregor had trained boxing from a young age he would have been a pretty decent pro.

It's worth bearing in mind that he took up MMA as an alternative to being a plumbers apprentice and earning jack-shit when the economy broke back in 2007 in Ireland.

He's got the poise and the balls and athleticism and right now I'd fancy him to make absolute shit of Amir Khan.

 

Yes, that's exactly what I'm doing, and I'm not listening to myself because I'm not talking, but typing.

 

Dana White "If he didn't gas, I believe he would have gone 12"

Very astute analysis.

 

Yes and there is nothing worse than falling in love with your own power.

Even a proper boxer, a good puncher, like Barrera or Hamed, both paid the price for that.

Barrera paid it when he was sparking guys like Kennedy McKinney and getting more and more flat-footed with every passing fight and eventually Junior Jones made total shit of him, twice, basically.

Barrera went away for a bit and thought it through.

Now take a guy who doesn't really have any power falling in love with said non-existent power. Problems await him in the afterlife.

 

There is absolutely no way he beats Khan. Khan managed to hang around for a few rounds and take shots from Canelo. Even Khan wouldn't be bothered by Conor's power. What's Conor going to do, outwork him over 12 rounds?

I'm no Khan fan, and he's always been overrated, but he's world class in his own weird, limited, chinny way.

 

Who needs Manny Steward or Gil Clancy.

 

You must be forgetting how that fight ended. Perhaps you think Khan's brain cells have grown back by now

 

He can fight, but I find him utterly repulsive - like an MMA version of Kim Kardashian.

 

So your point is Khan is such damaged goods, even Conor would win? Unless that one punch rendered Khan COMPLETELY shot, he'd beat Conor as easily as Floyd just did.

 

So then what point were you trying to make in the first place then? Besides the painfully obvious one?

 

It's the way things have gone unfortunately. There's not an ounce of grace or sophistication out there anymore.

 

Khan get's hurt easily, that's my point. His last few wins have all been over small guys handpicked so that they couldn't hurt him and even then he's gotten dropped by them.

McGregor would put out rumours that he was banging Khans wife and Amir's head would be up the Hindu Kush by the time they fought.

 

Yep, all true. OK give him points for effort, but his performance was largely pathetic. Rabbit punches and hugs from behind, I mean really. This from a guy who fleeced his fleet of groupies by repeatedly telling them he was going to KO Floyd in the 1st and even posting links to betting sites. Then comes in and turns out to be a feather fisted bitch, whose whole gameplan was basically hug and rabbit punch.

Regarding stamina, yeah, some people have it and some don't. Boxers obviously have better stamina than MMA fighters as they're generally just better athletes and fight for 36 minutes.

Conor did work on his stamina, honestly I was surprised he was even able to put it on Paulie in the 11th/12th round of sparring. And he lasted better than I thought, sort of. He did tire in the 4th as I predicted, but didn't actually gas out.

Everyone has their max capacity though, like Oscar - however hard he trained, he just didn't have the gas tank to fight 12 hard rounds. Duran is the opposite, he had a naturally huge tank of gas and would be bouncing around in the 15th round.

 

No argument there. I do find it sad how vile and classless things have become, and somehow most people just lap it up and admire people like that. That's the perplexing part for me.

 

Man I'm really surprised to hear this from you of all people, you're astute and appreciate technical boxing.

He showed me no real skill in those first 2 or 3 rounds. Floyd did nothing, he wasn't even trying. He said after the fight he was letting Conor burn energy, and that's exactly what it looked like.

He's not skill-less obviously, but he kind of looked like a decent amateur boxer to me, certainly nothing unique or surprising about his skillset, and he's not even as awkward as advertised. The only surprising thing is he's ridiculously dirty and rabbit punches constantly.

 

I agree with this. For once Floyd was being completely honest when he said he wasn't going to be defensive and wanted to give the fans a show.

Ultimately little Floyd just wants to be loved, and I think he wanted his last fight to be a fun TKO win, to make it look like it was actually a fight for a few rounds, and to give fans their money's worth.

 

What was vile and classless?

 

So what if he does catch you? He has no power at elite level boxing. Van Heerden said it, and last night confirmed it. Floyd walked through his shots like they were nothing.

He knew it too even before the fight, insinuated he's faced harder punches, and even seemed surprised that people were acting like Conor was the harder puncher of the two.

 

LOL, who?

 

Floyd has never thrown a punch without the pre-intended consequence of it landing.

Last night he threw plenty and missed.